BET KIMO LI'S PIES&STAR MATRIX

[SWEET]

personally, I think,

bet,
after,

2STARS AND 2PIES,

would better.

You just bet

16numbers,

hoping that the

2stars/pies,

would not remain as two, before or at the sixth spin.

Both stars and pies need to hit 3,
thou, or you dead meat

[6th-sense]

maybe something a bit more logical would be better than hope and a super massive progression....?

brute force isn,t the answer...if your going to use brute force narrow the numbers down a bit to something more managable...

[Irish88]

I have had some unbelievable days betting just 9 numbers. Playing low red, low black etc or low even, high odd numbers etc. I had gotten away away from this kind of betting. Maybe I should go back to concentrating on this.

[Kattila]

 Play 9 inside numbers is a good option, also 6 or 12.  Flatbet
See 5 possible systems and the tracker for them. Always bet temporal hot groups, can jump from one system to other....5Switch 9 Tracker.xls

    
System 1       
       
A    32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34   
B    6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10   
C    5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9   
D    22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26   
       
System 2       
       
E    19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27   
F    13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24   
G    16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18   
H    29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32   
       
System 3       
       
I    21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36   
J    11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33   
K    1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7   
L    28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19   
       
System 4       
       
M    25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30   
N    8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20   
O    14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12   
P    35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21   
       
System 5       
       
R    34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23   
S    10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31   
T    9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3   
U    26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25   

[SWEET]

Thanks 6th-sense , Irish88.and Kattila...

When we heard,

"Bet 16numbers",

 We thought,

"wow",

that MASSIVE STAKING!"...

Actually, betting 16 numbers, plus a covered zero, thats 17numbers total, is just as about SAME,

as betting EVEN CHANCE...

RED,ODD, HIGH, IS
betting 18numbers, without zero...

[6th-sense]

I mean massive staking doing a Marty on 16 numbers ..the example you gave still falls within loss expectation..

A better example is needed I think

Nice idea kattila

[duchobor]

SWEET, thanks for sharing your idea.
One important thing, though: The statistics you provided (1200 spins) treat pies and stars as separate events. And both the pies and the stars reach these expectations (probabilities) somewhat separately, as it very often happens that (for example) in 4 spins we have 4xstars and 3xpies, or 4xstars and 2xpies, or even 4x stars and only one pie. The same thing the other way around. Playing them separately at this point we have, of course, 24 numbers bet + 0 = 25 numbers bet. In your approach, when we wait for 4 simultaneously on the pies and stars side and play overlapping numbers, these statistics may be different.
Of course, it can be programmed. 1200 spins is not a lot.
Just a little note from me. I'm thinking out loud while playing with the tracker.

[SWEET]

Thanks 6th-sense.

Thanks duchobor for your thought.
Yes, you're right, the stars and pies have separate probabilities, and permutation and combination of stars and pies event.

[Kattila]

Sweet, a little  ....riddle,

Where are two might be the third, maybe the 3rd it s not in P  but is in S  , maybe the 3rd it s not in S    but it s in P  ,  maybe the third it is not in both  , maybe the third it  is in both 

                            

          समानांतर  समानांतर

cheers

[Blueprint]

Maybe = house edge

[Kattila]

Of course  , but at least is flatbet, maybe no big lose , maybe no big win , maybe little win , just maybe ....

[SWEET]

Thanks Kattila for your riddle.

let say 32hit, that's s1/p4...

then 17hit,
that's s2/pie6...

then if we bet 16 numbers,

(thats not s1,s2,p4,p6...)

then we only win when next number, not land on s1,s2,p4,p6..

stars will also,
move to third,

if the next number land on pie4/p6..

same for that 2pies, move to third if ball landing on s1,s2...

and we lose, even star and pies move from two to three.

[SWEET]

According to

Stringbeanpc's small sample,

 200rows of six spins...
pies,
or stars hit

Rows with 6=2
Rows with 5=51
Rows with 4= 105
Rows with 3 =38
Rows with 2=4
Rows with 1=0
total=200rows.

it seems that
1,2,3 hit

42/200rows,

and 4,5,6 hit

158/200rows...

then THRESHOLD OF...

3stars /pies
to move to 4,

seems interesting.

at the FIFTH SPINS,

THE
2 move to 3 AND/OR
3 STAYED at 3,  at SIXTH SPIN,

both event COMBINED, are
38/200...

Thus at fifth spin, either,
2 move to 3, OR 3/5,

not moving,

 stayed at 3/6

=38/200...

 SO,
to bet,
 we track the THREE, the soonest,

at third-spin,

then fourth,

 or fifth spin,

(3 hit at third, fourth spin, or fifth spin), and at the sixth spin, or fifth spin, or 4th spin, the chance of 4stars hit=105/200,51/200,2/200.

That's
4,5,6../200
respectively

thus the chances, of 1,2,3 NOT moving, and stayed, after SIX SPIN,
=0+4+38..
/200...

4,5,6materialised, at or before SIXTH SPIN

=105+51+2..=158/200...

So how to bet?

[SWEET]

So, in OVERSIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE.

If you sit at the table, then wait for THREE SPINS to hit, then bet straight away, that 4 will hit,
AT or before,

 SIXTH spin, 

Then the chances to hit 4,5,6 =158/200.

losing chances=42/200...

SO?
HOW TO BET?

To bet STARS ONLY, OR PIES ONLY, OR BET BOTH PIES/STARS?

[SWEET]

thus,
we need to bet ...

marthy..
that's
1,2,4...

so if that small sample, is as good as trillions spins sample,

then,
bet marthy...
1,2,4=losses=6.

losing 6=?/200.

winning 1=?/200