Betvoyager for US players

[roulettenerd]

Hi,contact Thomas Grant for more info on BV
I bet with BV
I live in the states.

[crownroyal]

It really is frustrating because the internet gambling law in America would have never passed on itââ,¬â,,¢s own merit ! !  This was all about back room wheeling and dealing with a group of wealthy New Jersey and Nevada lobbyists to win the congressional votes needed to pass some worthless piece of legislation during the Bush years. The current administration is even more brain dead than the last. I hate to say this fellow Americans, but we might be stuck with this bull for quite some time. On a more positive note, thanks again to Thomas Grant for helping several Americans, including myself to deposit funds into our B.V. accounts.   

[ThomasGrant]

Thank you both for those kind words.

Wish you both good fortune and lots of luck at the BV table.

Let me know if I can assist you for further deposits or withdraws.

[Moxy]

Visa and Mastercard won't process?  Just Webmoney?

[Carsch]

It really is frustrating because the internet gambling law in America would have never passed on itââ,¬â,,¢s own merit ! !  This was all about back room wheeling and dealing with a group of wealthy New Jersey and Nevada lobbyists to win the congressional votes needed to pass some worthless piece of legislation during the Bush years. The current administration is even more brain dead than the last. I hate to say this fellow Americans, but we might be stuck with this bull for quite some time. On a more positive note, thanks again to Thomas Grant for helping several Americans, including myself to deposit funds into our B.V. accounts.    

It's all about money, power and control. We're being screwed.  

Hey but thank God, we have Thomas. The Aussis are looking after us.  

[GLC]

Well, most indian casinos suck, period. A few of them, that I know of, you still have to pay a fee every time you place a black jack bet. Many don't offer roulette and craps. In California it's a joke; roulette is not played with a roulette wheel and a ball; instead they use playing cards or some other means to replace roulette. Same with Craps.........players don't roll dices - decks of cards are used instead.

Carsh,

I guess I'm lucky here in Tucson, AZ because we have 4 Indian casinos and two of them have an airball roulette table.  It has 6 seats and it's rare that more than 2 are being used.  Of course it's double zero roulette.  They are quarter machines with a $25 max bet.  They're good for testing systems and with a good system, you can actually win a little money for "bread and smokes". 

I love that phrase Flatino gave us.  Having lived in Bulgaria for a while, I know the importance of including "bread" in the phrase.  I was a missionary there in 1996-1998.  It was a time of hyper-inflation and the cost of bread went from 50 leva to 500 leva in a few weeks.  It was really hard on the retired folks because the government couldn't afford to increase their pensions to keep up with inflation.  Being a "rich" American (not really but Bulgarians thought all Americans were rich and compared to most of them, I probably was)  I used to walk up and down the alleyways where I would find Babushkas digging in the dumpsters for scraps of food to eat and paper and bottles to re-cycle.  I would give them 5000 leva which was only $2-$3.  Not much to me, but a great blessing to them.  Some of them didn't want to take it.  I understand, they're a proud people and didn't want to take charity.  So, I just folded it up and dropped it on the ground behind them, tapped them on the shoulder and said, "Izvinete, molya" (that's about all the Bulgarian I remember) but you dropped something and then I would just walk away.  What are they going to do? Just leave it on the ground.  No, pick it up and buy "BREAD".

Excuse me for taking a trip down memory lane.  What was I writing about?  Oh yeah, Indian casinos.  I have figured out that if there's 2 or 3 seats empty, I can play multiple screens and increase my range from 100 units to 200 or even 300.  It can get a little hectic to place bets on 3 screens because you only get about 40 seconds to do any calculations you may have and then get you bets placed before the dreadded "No more bets, please" is heard.

Carsch, if you or anyone else are ever in Tucson, give me a call.  We can get together for a meeting at the casino.  It'll be better than using those stupid cards.

Cheers,

George

[Carsch]

Yeah, i remember; they do have those air ball roulette machines in California, too (the only place i've seen them). Sure, if i ever go that way, i'll give you a ring.

[ThomasGrant]

[1:53:12 PM] billy chipps: well land of the free as long as you don't want to gamble

Gamble online. Online Roulette that is.

[ThomasGrant]

Thomas,
I tried to reply to this post to give you a good review but I dont have full member status yet I guess, I did register my username is BillyTheGamer or make it easy ..could you post this as my review?

Yes
YES

AND

YES.

Though if your are based in America, you will have difficulty playing with real money.

Tho ThomasGrant can sometimes....'Assist' with this situation!


I asked Thomas to make a depost to BV over this past week and he did it quickly and imo cheaply.I simply sent it thru Paypal and he deposited in my BV account without any problems. I plan on another deposit asap.

This is from an email I wrote to him today, it sums up my experience..

We hapless Yanks are stuck with casinos that use crappy and imo very suspect software.

The online casinos that are used by euro companies i.e betfair, 888, etc seem to be more fair, my guess would be they know if you can play at one of those big ones you can pick and choose, Bodog is the biggest company in America and it's owner is a refugee who lives on the run from the feds and the IRS!

But thats then, this is now...and lets move on!

Your fee is $25, I won't pay you a penny less. It more than worth it!

You're helping my fellow yanks flee from the slavery of shit gaming software.


BillyTheGamer

[ThomasGrant]

Hi guys...

All those Americans that have had a account with BV.
If you still have access to your account.
Please contact me.
Would like to know if any have been cancelled.
Or if any of you from the US still has access.
Please let me know.
I have someone that would like to use a BV account.

[birdhands]

Mine still works, although it's empty.

[Halba1]

Visa and Mastercard won't process?  Just Webmoney?

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