PROMISED CONSTANT WINNING BET

[F_LAT_INO]

Gents,
And there is 36 possible 4 sector combinations that are covering/touching/
every doz.-col---of possible 126 combinations--so in fact throughout a night
session play of about 400 spins,you will be betting on about 110-115 actual spins.
This way you are avoiding 75% of zero outcomes---and to lose your starting BR
of 240 chips possibility of that happening is 0,90%--incredible but true.
The main square that connects all sectors touching all dozens and columns;

Sectors

1-6-8
1-5-9
2-4-9
2-6-7
3-4-8
3-5-7--and  these multiplied with 6 gives you 36 bet possibilities.

Have tried everything/not on paper/in my 40 years of playing,but this
method is far the best.
Once you get used of trucking and playing this,you will find it very simple
and PROFITABLE.Good luck.

[F_LAT_INO]

I have trouble following your tracking rules.  On your spreadsheet, your first trigger is 4,6,7,8.  I understand that.  Your 2nd trigger says 3,4,7,8.  Your trigger should be:  8,7,4,6 --which does not qualify.

Am I wrong here??



KEEL

Could be some typing errors/age son/but the main thing is that
you grasp it.

[F_LAT_INO]

Just to make sure that I understand, it looks like you are waiting for all 9 sectors to appear.
Then once all the 9 sectors appear, you are betting the 4 that are furthest away.

So for example, if you see sectors. . .

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9

Then the 4 furthest sectors are 1,2,3,4.

One of the qualifications for playing this method however is that the 4 furthest sectors must include all dozens and columns.

So in this case, sector 1 covers dozen 1 and column 1.
sector 2 covers dozen 1 and column 2.
sector 3 covers dozen 1 and column 3.
sector 4 covers dozen 2 and column 1.

So as you can see, the 4 furthest back sectors cover all dozens and columns (1,2,3)

If I am wrong, then I have just made a fool of myself, lol.

So please correct me F LAT INO if I am wrong.

Once again, thanks for sharing.

What about dozen 3

[F_LAT_INO]

F.

Thanks very much for sharing this system.  Your example looks very promising.  We are eager to start testing it.  We just need to make sure we have all the rules right.  No sense in testing it the wrong way.

Sherm,

Thanks for helping us understand.  I agree with everything you said except when you said that the 4 crossing must cover every doz and col.  You will notic that your example does not cover doz 3.  It is impossible to cover all 6 doz and col with these 8 bets. 

If you will notice in F's reply #3 he stated that the crossings must "touch" every doz and col.  That is doable.

To bet we just place a chip on the 8 splits.  If lose mark off the crossing we just played.  See if the last 4 crossings touch each of the 6 dozs and cols.  Then bet 1 chip on each of the 8 splits.  Continue this way while losing with 1 chip ea, 1 chip ea, 2 chips ea, 2 chips ea, 3 chips ea, etc...  Anytime we are +10 or more, start over tracking the nine crossings.

What do you think?

Once again, Thanks F LAT INO for sharing.

P.S.  Please don't let Atlantis know my ADD has kicked in already.

Everything correct-except-anytime we are +10 or more--CONTINUE TRACKING SAME---not re tracking all over again

[weddings]

May I ask about the progression?
Unit - Bet - Total - Win -Net
1   8   8   17   9
1   8   16   17   1
2   16   32   34   2
2   16   48   34   -14
3   24   72   51   -21
3   24   96   51   -45
4   32   128   68   -60
4   32   160   68   -92
5   40   200   85   -115
5   40   240   85   -155
6   48   288   102   -186
6   48   336   102   -234

In your excel file:
8-
8-
16-
16-
24-
24-
32-
40+  >>> Here you are betting 4 units per split winning you 4 * 17 = $68 profit but after you minus your net loss your are left $68 - $160 = Loss of $92.

For example if we win at the 8 progression do we continue to bet 4 units until we are a profit of 10+?

If so may I know the lowest session loss you have gone to? From the excel I can see it is $152.

Hope we can clear all doubts before trying your system thanks!

[iggiv]

You are very wrong--what else to say, except try it and you will find out.

I did try, it is losing -18 after winning a 5th step. Did u try to run it yourself, bud, or u just created it without testing? sorry, I am not trying to offend u. Progression is just losing, how people can't see it? Or I am totally messed up?

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[iggiv]

let's do it step by step.

1) 8X1 splits. lost -8
2) 8X1 splits.  lost -16
3) 8X2 splits    lost -32
4) 8x2 splits   lost -48
5) 8X3 splits  won. but lost -18


u understand that further losses are going to rise just like a snow ball. The progression does not work. Neither does the system. Sorry.

correct me where exactly I was wrong

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[F_LAT_INO]

May I ask about the progression?
Unit - Bet - Total - Win -Net
1   8   8   17   9
1   8   16   17   1
2   16   32   34   2
2   16   48   34   -14
3   24   72   51   -21
3   24   96   51   -45
4   32   128   68   -60
4   32   160   68   -92
5   40   200   85   -115
5   40   240   85   -155
6   48   288   102   -186
6   48   336   102   -234

In your excel file:
8-
8-
16-
16-
24-
24-
32-
40+  >>> Here you are betting 4 units per split winning you 4 * 17 = $68 profit but after you minus your net loss your are left $68 - $160 = Loss of $92.

For example if we win at the 8 progression do we continue to bet 4 units until we are a profit of 10+?

If so may I know the lowest session loss you have gone to? From the excel I can see it is $152.

Hope we can clear all doubts before trying your system thanks!

You can here create your own progression/I do it as you noticed,after a win,turning back
in safer waters,with no strict rules.more like 1 or 2 down.
I don't go past 5th. step-5-and must bear in mind it is a 10/8 bet,and on each individual win
you have 2 chips+and in session of 40 wins/like in excel file/we maded 83 x2=166 chips.
My friend as have mentioned losing your BR happens once in 30 sessions,in almost 3
years playing this lost it 7 times in about 240 sessions/meaning a night session of about
350-400 spins.
Beauty about this method is that you can revers play it as you wish--for instance-playing last 5 sectors instead of 4 furthest---which i have applied in some tables when notice
lot of repeaters from some dealers.

[F_LAT_INO]

Iggy my friend,
You are doing it all wrong.

We are betting-ONLY-on sectors that are touching,are connected,covering--
all dozens and all columns.INSTANCE;
SECTORS;
1----DOZ 1-----------COL.1
5     DOZ 2-----------COL.2
8     DOZ 3-----------COL.2
9     DOZ 3-----------COL.3

We are not betting 8 splits as you imagined/all in same columns/therefore my friend
re-read the excel  attached,then you will see that you are WRONG once more.

[iggiv]

remember, bud, if u created a system covering "farthest splits" or sectors, or whatever is there is, it is based on SLEEPERS. U cover numbers which did not come up recently.
It may work for a while, but not on a long run for sure. there will be time when all sleepers will sleep for very long time, more than just 5, 6, or even 15 spins.

this system will not work on a long run. Sorry. I doubt u tested it properly and have run it for
even a few hundred spins. It is a pity to see your work lost, but at least your money is saved before u gonna play some real money on it. Don't.

[iggiv]

Iggy my friend,
You are doing it all wrong.

We are betting-ONLY-on sectors that are touching,are connected,covering--
all dozens and all columns.INSTANCE;
SECTORS;
1----DOZ 1-----------COL.1
5     DOZ 2-----------COL.2
8     DOZ 3-----------COL.2
9     DOZ 3-----------COL.3

We are not betting 8 splits as you imagined/all in same columns/therefore my friend
re-read the excel  attached,then you will see that you are WRONG once more.

well, some kind of confusion here...but how can it work on a long run even if the  progression works? I don't get it.
u understand that we have just a few  spins to win, and your system is based on covering
some sleepers with complicated configuration? Why would it work in a long run?

in a few hundred spins there will be quite a few cases when a few times the ball will fall on some numbers which are not connected anyhow to the previous few spins. How u can avoid this? Who cares what columns and dozens are "touched" by splits?

Well, bud, i would be happy to see u and other guys winning with this system honestly.
But it needs to be tested for a few thousand spins, and i am sure that if few guys will test it, it will lose for at least one guy already after a couple hundred spins. And most likely
it will lose for most of people after 500-600 spins.

this system has no chances from point a view of a person which has been watching how a wheel behaves for some considerable period of time. All systems based on sleepers always lose.

And also remember this: columns and dozens are ARTIFICIAL creation after creating the wheel. And remember, they don't even have "straight connection" to the wheel. Even sectors (which are real parts of wheel in order) tend to sleep for long periods of time.
Sleeping for dozens and columns can be very long. And randomness can play so many games with them. They may fall asleep for long one after another in different combinations. What is unlikely within first couple hundred spins will very likely happen
after a thousand or a few thousand spins. And u have not created this system to play for a few days and then quit it. If it has a "waive of luck" for a time being, and u start believing in it and increase your bets considerably (which is almost unavoidable if u reallyy believe in your  system) then u can be screwed up big time.

test it properly -- u will see it lose, buddy. See how much typed for saving your money.
and other guys money. Nobody deserves to lose them unless he is very rich. But many people will. Don't be in that group. Been there. Got the t-shirt.

[weddings]

yea agree with iggy, but maybe thats one of Flat's trigger.  i do think it work for the short term but not in the long term.

[F_LAT_INO]

well, some kind of confusion here...but how can it work on a long run even if the  progression works? I don't get it.
u understand that we have just a few  spins to win, and your system is based on covering
some sleepers with complicated configuration? Why would it work in a long run?

in a few hundred spins there will be quite a few cases when a few times the ball will fall on some numbers which are not connected anyhow to the previous few spins. How u can avoid this? Who cares what columns and dozens are "touched" by splits?

Iggy dear,
Sorry but must tell you that you are Wrong again.I suggest you test this some more--
or if you wish--you can produce last 6-8 sessions of Wiesbaden,Hamburg or any real played sessions----and could bet you on it,Buddy.
Why would it work in the long run??
Cause it works for me 3 years--and I believe it could work for you also,but it seems
that you had a bad experience with progressive kind of bets,but since you never come across such a bet as this---try it and you will see a difference,compering to other
similar bets.And it is very important that these 4 punting sectors are touching all
dozens and columns--but that will live to your own imagination-or rather -your
personal knowledge about randomness.

[iggiv]

Iggy dear,
Sorry but must tell you that you are Wrong again.I suggest you test this some more--
or if you wish--you can produce last 6-8 sessions of Wiesbaden,Hamburg or any real played sessions----and could bet you on it,Buddy.
Why would it work in the long run??
Cause it works for me 3 years--and I believe it could work for you also,but it seems
that you had a bad experience with progressive kind of bets,but since you never come across such a bet as this---try it and you will see a difference,compering to other
similar bets.And it is very important that these 4 punting sectors are touching all
dozens and columns--but that will live to your own imagination-or rather -your
personal knowledge about randomness.

well, i am washing my hands on this. if u have played with this sysem for 3 years....
either u have long-long wave of luck or i don't understand a thing about how the roulette wheel works. I wish u to keep winning but unfortunately i don't believe in magic.

that's how i believe this system can win for considerable amount of time.

For me trying to play this system is like saying " try to jump regularly from a roof to a roof where it is not too dangerous, just don't go over 3 floors and watch that the distance between them is no more than a couple of meters. I have been doing this for 3 years, i am OK, never has fallen down so far. "

[F_LAT_INO]

well, I am washing my hands on this. if u have played with this sysem for 3 years....
either u have long-long wave of luck or I don't understand a thing about how the roulette wheel works. I wish u to keep winning but unfortunately I don't believe in magic.

that's how I believe this system can win for considerable amount of time.

For me trying to play this system is like saying " try to jump regularly from a roof to a roof where it is not too dangerous, just don't go over 3 floors and watch that the distance between them is no more than a couple of meters. I have been doing this for 3 years, I am OK, never has fallen down so far. "

I was also jumping from system to system for 37 years,and now when have reached 70 can be content with my roulette achievements finally.