PROMISED CONSTANT WINNING BET

[Twisteruk]

Is anyone tryin Flat's other suggestion of betting the latest 4 sectors ?

[Kattila]

Hi guys , this is another progression we can use
for online casinos:

For 8 splits:

                             if lose    if win


1.    0,20 x 8          -1,6        +2
2.    0,30 x 8          -4           +1,4
3.    0,50 x 8          -8           +1
4.         1 x 8          -16         +2
5.         2 x 8          -32         +4
6.         4 x 8          -64         +8
7.         7 x 8          -120       +6
8.      13  x 8          -224       +10
..................................................
9.      25  x 8          -424       +26


cheers

[ophis]

It does not make any difference if we bet 8 splits with 1 or 16 numbers with 0. 5 right?

[Twisteruk]

Right 

[ophis]

I'm asking because I didint implement yet betting on splits in my bot because I didnt need that before . Anyway I wanted to make sure its ok to bet on plain numbers. I still don't understant how original progression could bring profit on any other step but 1st...


Oh well I have implemented this system into bot with original progression and on a win its going back one step and it seems to work rather great.

Test on Eurogrand RNG play mode (mostly to check if  bot is working properly)
Win target Ã,£50 / stop-loss Ã,£200
35 sesions won, 3 lose

From today I will start to test it on Dublibet, so if anyone want I can post results.

[Twisteruk]

I'm asking because I didint implement yet betting on splits in my bot because I didnt need that before . Anyway I wanted to make sure its ok to bet on plain numbers. I still don't understant how original progression could bring profit on any other step but 1st...


Oh well I have implemented this system into bot with original progression and on a win its going back one step and it seems to work rather great.

Test on Eurogrand RNG play mode (mostly to check if  bot is working properly)
Win target Ã,£50 / stop-loss Ã,£200
35 sesions won, 3 lose

From today I will start to test it on Dublibet, so if anyone want I can post results.

Awesome !

Yeah that would be great to hear about your results 

[GLC]

I'm asking because I didint implement yet betting on splits in my bot because I didnt need that before . Anyway I wanted to make sure its ok to bet on plain numbers. I still don't understant how original progression could bring profit on any other step but 1st...


Oh well I have implemented this system into bot with original progression and on a win its going back one step and it seems to work rather great.

Test on Eurogrand RNG play mode (mostly to check if  bot is working properly)
Win target Ã,£50 / stop-loss Ã,£200
35 sesions won, 3 lose

From today I will start to test it on Dublibet, so if anyone want I can post results.

Ophis,

Thanks for your help with this testing.

A "BOT" is great.  It can't make mistakes and the rules it uses are set in stone.

You are right, we are actually betting 16 numbers, just doing it with splits so we can place fewer bets.  With the changes in units amounts almost every bet, 16 gets a little much.

If you could detail exactly how your bot is playing, it would be very helpful to anyone who joins us late to get caught up with.  It will also help those of us who are testing by hand, because I think we are all testing with little differences here and there.

Once again thanks for jumping in to help,

George

[albertojonas]

Changed the progression again.
I'll stick to this from now on because its the shortest way. less spins, quicker profits and resolutions

i play a simple progression only on bettable triggers

8
16
32
64
128
total (248)

initial Bankroll 250

StopLoss when lost progression

stop also when double the bankroll or spin 222 achieved

4 sessions tested so far this way
session 10 = -176
session 11 = +268
session 12 = +254
session 13 = +258

Running total profit 604+ Chips

Keepin' it real

[Twisteruk]

Is anyone trying Flat's other suggestion of betting the latest 4 sectors ?

No one ? Anyone ?


Just wondered !

Im gonna give it a trial run now 

[GLC]

No one ? Anyone ?


Just wondered !

I'm gonna give it a trial run now 

Guys,

I have tried his progression for a session to +52.  I couldn't tell if it did worse or better.  Pretty much the same, but it would take a lot of testing to see if it holds up in the long-run.

I'm sure there are members of the forum who would remind us about the gambler's fallacy and that it doesn't really matter which 4 sectors we select in the long run.

Also remember that Flat suggested this to be played on airball roulette because he has been playing that recently and he noticed that there were a lot of repeats.  This may not apply to a real wheel or all airball machines.

He has said that he switches between the two ways of playing sometimes if the dealer is hitting more furthest or recent.  Subjective decision which can't be programmed in a bot.

George

[F_LAT_INO]

No one ? Anyone ?


Just wondered !

I'm gonna give it a trial run now 


Twisty mate,
Yes I have started testing reversed version/as for 4 months
testing --furthest version-come convinced its a long run
winning bet/last night tested reversed version first time,and
it is showing great.

RULES FOR REVERSED VERSION;

--Start betting on last 4 unique sectors.
with same rules as furthest version;
No bet when 3 of 4 sectors are in the
same dozen or column.

--4 unique must be not repeatable;

2
4
7
9 -------example

NOT;

2  2
4  4
4  7
7  7


Whenever you see last hit 4 uniques.............BET.......win.....wait for next same opportunity.

[Twisteruk]

Thanx Flat, Thanx George 


Im gettin betta with the sectors now Flat, just as you predicted. Finding it easier to get bets on.


Will test some more 

[flukey luke]

Also remember that Flat suggested this to be played on airball roulette because he has been playing that recently and he noticed that there were a lot of repeats. 

I agree with Flat here, I have mentioned a few times that airball machines seems to be a graveyard for sleeper systems. I can't really put my finger on it. It was interesting that the author of the D.N.A. method reported very different results with the airball over live play for his system as well. It just does not really mimic a live dealer game in my opinion.

[F_LAT_INO]

Guys,

I have tried his progression for a session to +52.  I couldn't tell if it did worse or better.  Pretty much the same, but it would take a lot of testing to see if it holds up in the long-run.

I'm sure there are members of the forum who would remind us about the gambler's fallacy and that it doesn't really matter which 4 sectors we select in the long run.

Also remember that Flat suggested this to be played on airball roulette because he has been playing that recently and he noticed that there were a lot of repeats.  This may not apply to a real wheel or all airball machines.

He has said that he switches between the two ways of playing sometimes if the dealer is hitting more furthest or recent.  Subjective decision which can't be programmed in a bot.

George
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George mate,
Did play Air ball today with this new version,same rules
but it seems there are much more hits,and looks to me
more secure.

If we could find someone/maybe you,or Kattila/to do 8 step
progression/regardles how high/start betting after 5 last uniques---
---miss
bet 6 uniques
---miss
bet 7 uniques
 miss
bet 8
uniques
........WILL NOT GO FURTHER AS HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THEN 7 UNIQUES
IN TESTING THIS FOR LAST 2 YEARS.
THEN MY FRIEND WE WOULD HAVE 100% WINNING BET.

[GLC]

could find someone/maybe you,or Kattila/to do 8 step
progression/regardles how high/start betting after 5 last uniques---
---miss
bet 6 uniques
---miss
bet 7 uniques
 miss
bet 8
uniques
........WILL NOT GO FURTHER AS HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THEN 7 UNIQUES
IN TESTING THIS FOR LAST 2 YEARS.
THEN MY FRIEND WE WOULD HAVE 100% WINNING BET.

FLAT,

I don't understand your comment about an 8 step progression.

If I understand you, you want to track until there are 5 unique sectors then begin betting on these.  That's 10 bets because each sector has 2 splits, if lose
Bet on the last 6 unique sectors or 12 bets, if lose
Bet on the last 7 unique sectors or 14 bets, if lose
Bet on the last 8 unique sectors or 16 bets.

If we start betting  when there are 5 unique sectors we will be betting 1 unit on 10 splits.  A win = +18-10=+8  Loss=-10
If lose 2 units on 12 splits.  A win = +36-24-10=+2  Loss=-34
If lose 10 units on 14 splits. This gives +6  
If lose ? units on 16 splits.  This is such a big number on each split that it becomes prohibitive.

Am I thinking like you are or am I off base?

George