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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Roulettebeater

It depends!

Some people try to hunt opportunities and they succeed.
others believe in mechanical systems that work ALWAYS, UNDER ANY CONDITION and FOR EVER!

IT's up to you to choose where you belong.

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

cht

Aim for bet size at max table limit.

2020 is too far off,  get there by this Christmas.  :smile:

Btw there're plenty other places to play that's a lot better to us bettors at their high roller room than Vegas/AC. 

cht

If you are a serious hobbyist or full-time gambler,  here's the top 15 locations on the world list.

link:s://list25.com/25-largest-casinos-in-the-world/3/

cht

Curious question - who has played at these locations ?  :question:

Macau and Singapore, and few smaller properties in the region is gambling at it's finest.  :thumbsup:

andrebac

I played in Macau and this is the best in the world for baccarat players.
Baccarat tables are 80% of gambling offer. min from 300 hkd
I will go to Singapore the next month but IMO macau for bac players, is on top.
A

andrebac

To andre c.
you told that your triggers are PBB or BPP and that you bet them when they appear twice.
IE: PBB PBB here you bet BPP
     BPP.BPP here you bet PBB
but PBB could be played IE like that or not?
PBB  bpb bbb PBB :  here you bet for BPP
same for the opposite trigger
...and why not PPB or BBP? is there. a reason?
thanks

Ricky

Quote from: mikeyespo on Feb 22, 05:07 PM 2018
most importantly to me ,,,, is that I do not want to interfere with this thread...if the general census it to start a new thread.  Then I will do so.   Its just when I see what all are doing with pattern breaker with negative progression, and playing it once a day or so.  Holding ones breath while doing so with larger amounts of money, so that there time waiting is  worth while..honestly does not make a lot of sense to  me ,because as we all know you are not changing the odds, it does not matter when you play the pattern,,... patterns come and go... no rocket science,,, how long a pattern will show and not show,, I surely dont know,... when it will or not show ,,, no system can tell you that .  I guess you can believe that it will not show because its the  8th  pattern so bet against... that has been around for a long time.... nothing  new there.  No matter what you decide to play as a system.... it will take patience and knowing you are (gambling).    You are always going to need some luck on your side... but with what I will show you is that when luck is on your side you can do very well.. and when its not you will limit your losses...believe me the casino does not want you to limit your losses when luck is not on your side.
Hi
Just a quick comment on why you would play sparingly and not for hours on end
What would you rather be doing with your time living life or gambling all day. If you hav a method that seems to work most of the time why not build up your fighting fund/bankroll and play is for an hour a day for high stakes and use the profit to live you life pay the bills go on those holidays

I think you can certainly play PB all day but that what a BOT is for, programmed with the correct money management rules it can do this
But I certainly have no intention of playing all day once I have made my money
I’m looking to retire and play to support my lifestyle

Cheers
Ricky

Roulettebeater

To PatternBreakerHunters,

How's it going today?

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

bikemotorman

I found this on a craps forum years ago and still play it now with PATTERN BREAKER for craps.
I use three virtual LLLs before I start to play again it is for Craps if you use it for Roulette and Baccarat you may get wiped out but when I have three PPP or three DDD it works very well.
Again its just to look at and maybe get an idea so Yall have been warned LOL.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THEN 8 PASS OR DONT PASS IN A ROW WITH ME THROWING THE DICE, COULD IT HAPPEN SURE, BUT ODDS ARE SMALL THAT IT WILL.
THAT INCLUDES COME OUT SEVENS AND ELEVENS ON THE PASSLINE.

PPP
PPP
PPD
DDD
DDD
D
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I win over and over and over playing this way. Please look it over.
I'm looking for your comments good or bad..
Have I developed THE winning system { the one that overcomes the odds and puts the odds in the player's favor } or have I just been getting lucky?
SYSTEM:

STREAKS -
Streaks of P and DP happening in a row, odds for each streak to continue are 50% less than the last streak.
EXAMPLE :
[ all examples will only go to a level of ten - P or DP occurring in a row - the math is the same no matter how far or near I take it - IT cannot change ]
10 in a row - will occur __1 time
09 in a row - will occur __2 times
08 in a row - will occur __4 times
07 in a row - will occur __8 times
06 in a row - will occur _16 times
05 in a row - will occur _32 times
04 in a row - will occur _64 times
03 in a row - will occur 128 times
02 in a row - will occur 256 times
01 in a row - will occur 512 times
Streaks of P and DP - 2036 total decisions
50% will be P and 50% will be DP.
Doubling your bet after a loss.
No matter where you end you're doubling a bet after a loss you will lose.
EXAMPLE :
[ ending the doubling and taking a loss at 5 losing wagers in a row ]
Wagers
01 unit__ win = plus 1 unit_ lose = -1 unit then wager
02 unit__ win = plus 1 unit_ lose = -3 units then wager
04 unit__ win = plus 1 unit_ lose = -7 units then wager
08 unit__ win = plus 1 unit_ lose = -15 units then wager
16 unit__ win = plus 1 unit_ lose = -31 units
END
So playing the OPPOSITE of the prior decision, this is what will happen:
All streaks of
01 in a row-plus 1 unit
02 in a row-plus 1 unit
03 in a row-plus 1 unit
04 in a row-plus 1 unit
05 in a row minus 31 units
06 in a row minus 31 units
07 in a row minus 31 units
08 in a row minus 31 units
09 in a row minus 31 units
10 in a row minus 31 units
What happens when we look at the amount of streaks we will get when we play.
__1 streak of 10 in a row = minus _31 units 1x-31
__2 streaks of 9 in a row = minus _62 units 2x-31
__4 streaks of 8 in a row = minus 124 units 4x-
__8 streaks of 7 in a row = minus 248 units 8x-31
_16 streaks of 6 in a row = minus 496 units 16x-31
_32 streaks of 5 in a row = minus 992 units 32x-31
_64 streaks of 4 in a row = plus ___64 units 64x 1
128 streaks of 3 in a row = plus __128 units 128x 1
256 streaks of 2 in a row = plus __256 units 256x 1
512 streaks of 1 in a row = plus __512 units 512x 1
for a total of plus 960 units minus - 1953 units = minus - 993 units
As you can see betting on the opposite decision [ P / DP ] and doubling each losing wager until you win WILL lose you money.
Playing BOTH sides P and DP at the same time.
Play both sides at the same time increasing the wager on the side of P / DP that you have just lost a wager on and using the side that you won a wager on as a BACK UP BET.
HOW:
    Start by placing 1 unit on P AND DP [at the same time] then which ever side WINS place a wager of one unit and on the side that LOST place a wager of 2 units.
    If the side with 2 units wins your ahead 1 unit then place 1 unit on the winning side and go up to 2 units on the side that lost, the one that only had 1 unit on it.
    If the side that had 2 units on it lost keep only 1 unit on the winning side but increase your wager on the losing side up to 3 units.
    If the side that has the 3 units on it wins and the side with 1 unit loses you are ahead 1 unit, so place 1 unit on the side that won and 2 units on the side that lost.
    If the side with 3 units on it loses and the side with 1 unit wins keep one unit on the side that won and increase your wager on the losing side up to 5 units.
    If the side with 5 units on it wins you are up 1 unit . Place 1 unit on the winning side and increase the losing side up to 2 units.
    If the side with 5 units on it loses keep 1 unit on the side that won and increase your wager up to 9 units on the losing side.
    If the side with 9 units on it wins you are up 1 unit . Place 1 unit on that winning side and increase the unit on the losing side up to 2 units.
    If the side with 9 units loses we STOP HERE AND TAKE OUR LOSS! We are only down 15 units NOT 31 units like we would be after 5 losses in a row if we were only playing ONE SIDE [ P or DP ] and doubling our wager after each loss.
WE ARE DOWN LESS THAN 50% of what we could be, talk about minimizing losses.
EXAMPLE: P wins then DP wins
__P____DP__
__1____1___ wager/ P wins DP loss= even
__1____2___ wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 1 unit
EXAMPLE: P wins P wins DP wins
__P____DP__
__1____1___ wager/ P wins DP lost= even
__1____2___ wager/ P wind DP lost= minus 1 unit
__1____3___wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 1 unit
EXAMPLE: P wins P wins P wins DP wins
__P____DP__
__1____1___ wager/ P wins DP lost= even
__1____2___ wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 1 unit
__1____3___ wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 3 units
__1____5___wager/ P lost DP wins = plus 1 unit
EXAMPLE: P wins P wins P wins P wins DP wins
__P____DP___
__1____1____wager/ P wins DP lost= even
__1____2____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 1 unit
__1____3____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 3 units
__1____5____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 7 units
__1____9____wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 1 unit
EXAMPLE: P wins P wins P wins P wins P wins [ followed by a P or DP it will not make a difference -this is where we end our losing streak]
__P____DP___
__1____1____wager/ P wins DP lost= even
__1____2____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 1 unit
__1____3____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 3 units
__1____5____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 7 units
__1____9____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 15 units
END
EXAMPLE: P wins DP wins DP wins P wins P wins P wins DP wins P wins P wins DP wins.
P-DP-DP-P-P-P-DP-P-P-DP
********************************
__P____DP___
__1____1____wager/ P wins DP lost= even
__1____2____wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 1 unit
__2____1____wager/ P lost DP wins= even
__3____1____wager/ P wins DP lost= plus 2 units
__1____2____wager/ P wins DP lost= plus 1 unit
__1____3____wager/ P wins DP lost= minus 1 unit
__1____5____wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 3 units
__2____1____wager/ P wins DP lost= plus 4 units
__1____2____wager/ P wins DP lost= plus 3 units
__1____3____wager/ P lost DP wins= plus 5 units
Playing this way seems to work for every streak of P or DP 1-2-3 or 4 in a row your ahead 1 unit and for every streak of 5 or more you are down 15 units.
Let us look at what will happen in the long term [run] . When we look at the amount of streaks we will get.
Streaks of P and DP :
01 in a row = plus 1 unit
02 in a row = plus 1 unit
03 in a row = plus 1 unit
04 in a row = plus 1 unit
05 in a row = minus 15 units
06 in a row = minus 15 units
07 in a row = minus 15 units
08 in a row = minus 15 units
09 in a row = minus 15 units
10 in a row = minus 15 units
amount of streaks 50% P and 50% DP
Streaks of - in a row
01__512 ----- plus 512
02__256 ----- plus 256
03__128 ----- plus 128
04___64 ----- plus 64
total for streaks 1-4 = plus 960 units
******************************************
05__32 ----- 32 x minus 15 units = minus 480
06__16 ----- 16 x minus 15 units = minus 240
07___8 ----- 8 x minus 15 units = minus 120
08___4 ----- 4 x minus 15 units = minus 60
09___2 ----- 2 x minus 15 units = minus 30
10___1 ----- 1 x minus 15 units = minus 15
total for streaks 5-10 = minus 945 units
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Grand total plus 960 units - minus 945 units = plus 15 units
That seems like a lot of work just for 15 units not to talk about the time that would take, but think about this will you really bust at 15 units every time? Will the method of play really go like this win 15 units then lose 15 units lose 15 units win 15 units and break even. NO. When you bust 15 units you have to ADD the amount of units you won to get the TRUE amount of the bust. Say you won 12 units and then bust 15 units your TRUE bust is only 3 units or say you won 22 units and then bust 15 units your TRUE bust is really a win of 7 units.
    So in a 50/50 game [ craps ] you have to look at what the average is in the long run and that is your average bust WILL only be 7 1/2 [ 8 ] units playing this way and your average win will be 7 1/2 [ 8 ] units. Now the great part.
Play what is called a 2-1-2-1 bankroll money management strategy along with what I have just shown you and you can not lose
A 2-1-2-1 strategy is easy what you do is break ALL your play into segments and win or lose you leave after a segment and take a break and return later to start another segment.
But here is how you play each segment.
Bankroll required
You need 30 units- each unit MUST be at least the table minimum bet [ example; at a $ 1.00 table you need $ 30.00 at a $ 5.00 table you need $150.00 ] per segment to be played also you NEED to be able to play AT LEAST 3 segments
Start segment one by playing the 1-2-3-5-9-unit progression with DOUBLE the wager progression. Play 2-4-6-10-18 with 2 units on the other side as your back-up wager. Play this way until you win 30 units or bust [ your average bust will be 50 % of segment money- 15 units ] .IF YOU WIN 30 UNITS: walk away and take a break or find another table to play at.
When you return to play this time [ your 2nd segment ] Play 1-2-3-5-9 unit progression with 1 unit as your back-up wager. IF YOU BUST : start over playing 2-4-6- 10-18 unit progression with a 2 unit back-up wager again.
EVERY TIME YOU BUST START OVER WITH THE 2-4-6-10-18 PROGRESSION WITH THE 2 UNIT BACK-UP WAGER.
EVERY TIME YOU WIN 15 UNITS ON YOUR 2ND SEGMENT START OVER PLAYING THE 2-4-6-10-18 PROGRESSION WITH A 2 UNIT BACK-UP WAGER.
So when you are playing the 2-4-6-10-18 progression your average bust will be 15 units and when you play the 1-2-3-5-9 progression your average bust will be 8 units.
LETS SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN PLAYING THIS WAY
Over ANY two segments you can either,
win and win
win and lose
lose and win
lose and lose
win and win = plus 45 units [ 30 and 15 ]
win and lose = plus 22 units [ 30 and -8 avg. ]
lose and lose = minus 30 units [ -15 avg. and -15 avg. ]
lose and win = plus 15 units [ -15 avg. and 30 ]
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE LONG TERM [ RUN]
Wins AND losses in a row :
[ a 50/50 game ]
EXPECTED WINS IN A ROW [ sample only to 5 ]
1. 16 W-L [ 30 - 8 avg. = 22 ]
2. 8 W-W-L [ 30/15 - 15 avg. = 30 ]
3. 4 W-W W-L [ 30/15/30 - 8 avg. = 67 ]
4. 2 W-W-W-W-L [ 30/15/30/15 - 15 avg. = 75 ]
5. 1 W-W-W-W-W-L [ 30/15/30/15/30 - 8 avg. = 112 ]
1. 16 x 22 = 352
2. 8 x 30 = 240
3. 4 x 67 = 268
4. 2 x 75 = 150
5. 1 x 112 = 112
total = 1122
EXPECTED LOSS IN A ROW [ sample only to 5 ]
1. 16 L-W [ -15 avg. and plus 30 = 15 ]
2. 8 L-L-W [ -15 / -15 avg. and plus 30 = 0 ]
3. 4 L-L-L-W [ -15 / -15 / -15 avg. and plus 30 = - 15 ]
4. 2 L-L-L-L-W [ -15 / -15 / -15 / -15 avg. and plus 30 = - 30 ]
5. 1 L-L-L-L-L-W [ -15 / -15 / -15 / -15 / -15 avg. and plus 30 = - 45
1. 16 x 15 = 240
2. 8 x 0 = 0
3. 4 x -15 = -60
4. 2 x -30 = -60
5. 1 x -45 = -45
total = 75 [ plus 240 - 0 - 60 - 60 - 45 = plus 75
So if what is expected to happen happens and it will [ over the long run with little variation swings in the short run ] YOU CAN NOT LOSE
P.S. about the bar
When playing this way the bar will have just a slight influence on your play. When the pass line has a higher wager on it when the bar is rolled on the come out treat it as a lose and increase your wager following the rules and when you win on the pass line you will BREAK EVEN not win 1 unit.
BUT if when the bar was rolled on the come out roll and you had a higher wager on it and did not get paid for the don't pass win just REPEAT the wagers on the pass and don't pass line and when you win on the don't pass line you will also break even
George Herrlinger

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DoctorSudoku

Stuart,
Thanks for posting it. Looks interesting.

I will have to digest it first. I might come back and ask you some questions later on today or tomorrow.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

bikemotorman

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Feb 25, 06:56 AM 2018
To PatternBreakerHunters,

How's it going today?


I lost more times with Pattern Breaker on Baccarat live real dealer,,,,,,, I am done with PB on Baccarat until I figure out what I am doing wrong............ but its stunning on CRAPS and works GREAAAAAT.

Stuart

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Winner

Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 25, 11:06 AM 2018

I lost more times with Pattern Breaker on Baccarat live real dealer,,,,,,, I am done with PB on Baccarat until I figure out what I am doing wrong............ but its stunning on CRAPS and works GREAAAAAT.

Stuart
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The commission eats up profit

bikemotorman

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 25, 09:06 AM 2018
Stuart,
Thanks for posting it. Looks interesting.

I will have to digest it first. I might come back and ask you some questions later on today or tomorrow.


I play it this way when I have PPP or DDD I then put two chips on the side that lost then one chip on the side that won.

The progression is 1 2 3 5 9 with the backup wager on the side the won.............its kind of like differential wagering of sorts but you can get wiped out.
I use 100 dollar chips on it with my craps table lol here at home I am just trying to make five units to play live with this method in BM casino I need to have a 3000 dollar bankroll.

The author of the system says 30 units is what you will need.

Stuart
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Ross

Did this programme just for mental exercise.

Tested only on BV No-Zero.

Works when betting on HHH,LLL etc.




Eighty- four and counting.  Is age an excuse?

Andre Chass

So good so far!

66--1

10 sessions played 10 sessions won

Progression 1, 1, 3

Profit  around $300 with the commissions

PS: Using this progression I break even some sessions.

Game time around 2 hours
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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