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cht

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 17, 05:08 PM 2018
Hi Sentinel,
this is very valuable information as you can conclude from this that there are alternate progressions you can employ and still stay ahead. A 2 step progression 1/2/virtual 3 will save you the loss of 820 to pay for the 1,552 wins that you would have lost had you stopped at step 2.

Alternatively you could bet step3 as a break even step or get half your money back so 1/2/3 or 1/2/2. This is like using a d'Alembert


The progression in the attached would be perfect for this method. It incorporates both a negative and positive progression. Its called the TKO formula employed by the a baccarat play named Jay Silva who charges students thousands of dollars to teach them how to beat baccarat. The two progressions he uses are called the FORCE and the LADDER.
The idea is when you lose use a d'Alembert progression to bet each session.
When you are on a winning streak like Sentinel has been on for 50 straight wins then deploy the LADDER to maximise your wins. This means you are using the casino's money to place the next bet while on a winning streak. As soon as you lose one session then you get off the ladder and start using the FORCE again. If you want a good explanation of the system check out Jay's video  link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=OxYShQskBOw&t=1200s and apply it to PB and we have a VERY POWERFUL system. He gave a free lesson. It was a great eye opener for me as I already use a positive progression to bet on streaks in roulette but never combined a negative and positive progression in the same system.

Cheers,
Ricky
I brought up this subject of optimising bets based on frequency distribution earlier.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg190835#msg190835

The idea is to place bets on frequency distribution that's skewed high and don't place bets on negative skews. Progression per se may give less losing sessions since they are designed to circumvent variance but they not necessarily give optimised outcomes.

If the win rate is on the high end, you might want to look at the calculated potential max losing streak to right size your br and use half kelly equation.

cht

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 17, 10:31 AM 2018
Just finished a 400 spin session of PB/MV7
W=11
L=0
STEP 1 = 5
STEP 2=4
STEP 3=2

MV7
W=0
L=1 (stopped after first progression as ended the betting session. Will resume tomorrow)


I played one game of Apolloo's PB on Column/Doz (T40) and won 5 euros. Will add this method to the bot and track how it performs

Up 56 euro in 2 days. Not bad  :D.

Cheers,
Ricky
The bet on the 1st step is a losing bet.  The same can be seen on sentinel's current years result and Apolloo's variant on post #2282.

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 17, 09:18 PM 2018
The bet on the 1st step is a losing bet.  The same can be seen on sentinel's current years result and Apolloo's variant on post #2282.
I cannot agree with that Cht. Because we are playing the 3 steps for one outcome. A ONE UNIT WIN.

And like I said its PBRs performance within a 100 game set that interests me personally.

Of course you could set it up so you dont bet on step 1 of the prog. But I will tell you that could be a frustrating tweak. Ive had times where 5 or 6 games in a row WIN on STEP 1. You would have to be prepared to wait 1.5 to 2 hours sometimes to get a qualifying game to win one unit.

And think on that. The vast majority of people on these forums. Already think waiting 20 odd minutes for a normal game of PBR is too long.

So for most that would be a no no. The most ESSENTIAL ingredient for longterm success PATIENCE. Is missing from nearly everyone who plays this game.

That above all else. Is the reason casinos will ALWAYS BE SAFE.

You have a virtual HG on this forum with PBR now. But most cant be bothered to wait 20 odd minutes to get the win. Not even 10 people will stay with it longterm. You see the MIND is and always will be the weak link in the chain of roulette success. ALWAYS.

bikemotorman

Of course, you could set it up so you don't bet on step 1 of the prog. But I will tell you that could be a frustrating tweak. I've had times where 5 or 6 games in a row WIN on STEP 1. You would have to be prepared to wait 1.5 to 2 hours sometimes to get a qualifying game to win one unit.

Wow, I am waiting 2 hours with the PB for craps all the time, man it takes some time to use the method but it does work if I had the bankroll I think a 500 dollar unit may even make some sense.
We just have too be careful and stay focused I made a mistake on my sheet yesterday so staying focused is paramount to this method.
Even my buddy who plays craps for a living would not wait that long, I told him about this and he wants to get in and out in under an hour.
I asked him would you be willing to wait three hours for 500 dollars he said no way he would be pulling his hair out.
He will risk 3000 to make 500 but he wants to get in and out in less than an hour.
Is there any place we can play real craps online????????

Randomness is accurate in theory, but statistics are backed by actual results of play and documentation.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

I DO NOT GAMBLE, GAMBLERS CANT WAIT 2 HOURS TO MAKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

WHY BECAUSE MOST GAMBLERS, IN FACT, MOST LIKELY 98 PERCENT LACK PATIENCE AND DISCIPLINE.
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sentinel3

Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 18, 02:37 AM 2018
Of course, you could set it up so you don't bet on step 1 of the prog. But I will tell you that could be a frustrating tweak. I've had times where 5 or 6 games in a row WIN on STEP 1. You would have to be prepared to wait 1.5 to 2 hours sometimes to get a qualifying game to win one unit.

Wow, I am waiting 2 hours with the PB for craps all the time, man it takes some time to use the method but it does work if I had the bankroll I think a 500 dollar unit may even make some sense.
We just have too be careful and stay focused I made a mistake on my sheet yesterday so staying focused is paramount to this method.
Even my buddy who plays craps for a living would not wait that long, I told him about this and he wants to get in and out in under an hour.
I asked him would you be willing to wait three hours for 500 dollars he said no way he would be pulling his hair out.
He will risk 3000 to make 500 but he wants to get in and out in less than an hour.
Is there any place we can play real craps online????????

Randomness is accurate in theory, but statistics are backed by actual results of play and documentation.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

We don’t gamble we use a method that works.

I DO NOT GAMBLE, GAMBLERS CANT WAIT 2 HOURS TO MAKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

WHY BECAUSE MOST GAMBLERS, IN FACT, MOST LIKELY 98 PERCENT LACK PATIENCE AND DISCIPLINE.
100% thats why the game is safe for alltime.

Not even 2% of people who play roulette have the RIGHT MINDSET to beat it longterm. Thats why casinos laugh when they hear about system players. Even a good system in the WRONG HANDS will lose...

Ricky

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 09, 10:48 AM 2018

Maybe I will try and write myself a little console prog that can handle that...

A.
Hi Atlantis,
I really like your thought process in trying to fight random. These ideas like 3 Strikes are very playable and dodge random quite well. With good progression and MM controls we have a range of formidable methods to take on this "UNBEATABLE" game. I see you seem to have some programming skills. Have you looked at Roulette Xtreme to help you with your tracking? Its a very good software. Costs under US$50 for a license plus a similar amount for the RXBOT. Very affordable and easy to program if you can read code. Let me know if you need a hand if your interested.
Cheers,
Ricky

atlantis

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 18, 08:47 AM 2018
Hi Atlantis,
I really like your thought process in trying to fight random. These ideas like 3 Strikes are very playable and dodge random quite well. With good progression and MM controls we have a range of formidable methods to take on this "UNBEATABLE" game. I see you seem to have some programming skills. Have you looked at Roulette Xtreme to help you with your tracking? Its a very good software. Costs under US$50 for a license plus a similar amount for the RXBOT. Very affordable and easy to program if you can read code. Let me know if you need a hand if your interested.
Cheers,
Ricky

Hi Ricky,
I have got licensed RXtreme program. (In fact I have had it since version 1.0) and I agree is v.g. although I don't have the RX bot license...
RX tracker would be even better IMHO - it's just my RX coding skills are not great on that  :)
I understand you are creating one for PB. Sounds like a great idea and I will be happy to try it if you do.
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 18, 03:03 AM 2018
100% thats why the game is safe for alltime.

Not even 2% of people who play roulette have the RIGHT MINDSET to beat it longterm. Thats why casinos laugh when they hear about system players. Even a good system in the WRONG HANDS will lose...
Thanks in advance can you show us the money management part when the system loses just to give me an idea how to recover the losse.

bikemotorman

Ok folks done with the whole sheet PB did fine, however, I am tired lol.

I had pass line 52.
I had don't pass line 50.

Take a look at the results guys its as close to a 50/50 game as we can get, of course, I am speaking of the game of craps.
I would not be afraid to use the progression of---25---75---225 this is of course with 25 dollar chips.

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Quote from: Winner on Feb 18, 10:39 AM 2018
Thanks in advance can you show us the money management part when the system loses just to give me an idea how to recover the losse.
Winner PBR is so strong you dont need one. You are looking for a win loss breakdown of 92--8 across a 100 game set. Thats very achievable with PBR. Im currently 62--1 in my latest 100 game set. And breakdowns of 94--6 or better will now be common. My latest run is made up of 54--L--8.

You can just stick to one level progression to suit your bankroll. Initially 1-2-4. As your bank grows so do your stakes. If you have a 1k bank for example you would use 0.5% of that as your BASE BET

So in that case your progression would be â,¬5--â,¬10--â,¬20.

And so forth once your bank was 1.2k your base bet would be â,¬6--â,¬12--â,¬24.

Thats how its done. Always remember your bank should be 200 time that of your base bet ideally. With a powerful system like PBR which is basically a license to print money. Its tempting to go off to high.

But remember you can lose two or three close games. Its over a 100 game set you rule. And show a positive yield. So you need a bankroll to see you to the end of each 100 game set.

bikemotorman

Sentinel how do I explain to people that with Pattern Breaker we are not just old-fashioned gambling but we have an edge to some extent????
I want to tell a friend about it and that it can be used with Craps, Roulette, and Baccarat.

Again we use a method that works not just gambling, I would say its more akin to Day Trading, not gambling.

I also know some people who may help me towards bankroll procurements if they believe the method may have some sort of edge in the three games of chance that I mentioned above.

I would use it for Roulette and Craps only at this point.

Thank You for your help in advance.

Stuart
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Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 18, 05:32 PM 2018

I would use it for Roulette and Craps only at this point.



Stuart,
I would recommend that you apply PB to baccarat.

You might find that in terms of growing your bank roll, PB works best at baccarat.

Roulette has the 0/00 and craps has the bar number (usually 12, but in some places 2) that will occasionally throw a monkey wrench into your efforts.

Yes, baccarat occasionally has the TIE outcome, but you don't lose your Banker or Player bets when it shows up. If you have baccarat at the Cherokee Harrah's casino, give it a try there.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

bikemotorman

How would we use PATTERN BREAKER for baccarat Doc, could somebody provide me with an example of how it works.
My Craps buddy told me also to play Baccarat, he said it is the easiest game to really make a profit maybe with PATTERN BREAKER I could get an edge on this Baccarat game of sorts, he also said it requires less bankroll.

Again can somebody provide me with an example of PB use in BACCARAT?

Stuart
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bikemotorman

One thing is paramount with PATTERN BREAKER,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, PATIENCE AND DISCIPLINE ARE MANDATORY.

This is not a thrilling method, its boring, monotonous tedious irksome tiresome humdrum it is relentless but it is Profitable AND VERY GOOD FOR CRAPS PASS AND DONT PASS.

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Hi bikemotorman,

It is same, just like with Red and Black on roulette  - wait for the missing pattern and bet against it, I think.

P=Player
B=Banker
Ignore any TIES

PPP       
BBB â—™     
PPB  â—™     
BPP  â—™     
PBB â—™     
BBP  â—™     
BPB  â—™     
PBP  â—™     

Example: The ummarked pattern above is the missing one yet to occur; so now bet against PPP happening. Stop at a winner.

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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