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Numerology = nonsense

Started by WannaWin, Aug 21, 12:47 PM 2010

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Twisteruk

Quote from: Twisteruk on Aug 21, 01:21 PM 2010
I agree with you.

But disagree about censorship by Victor, or any Mod come to that (within reason)

If some people choose to have a certain point of view then let them

I choose to read all posts as I enjoy reading different people's point of view

Then, its our informed choice to choose how we wish to pick our number(s). Is it not ?



Just my 9 cents  :thumbsup:


As I said way back when I was a nOOb, its ppls choice

No one says you have to play that way or even post in this Thread

If you dont like the content, then ignore and jog on  ;D
Its Set In Stone =)

Bayes

Quote from: chrisbis on Jun 04, 09:20 AM 2011
Now that this "System", is build into the newly released MST tracking/clicker by Ophis, you can all test out the theory for Urselves.

It works................sometimes!!

Well Chris, you could say the same about a 'method' which consists of throwing chips randomly over the table. To me, a system which 'works' means a system which wins consistently; something which works 'sometimes' is a system which doesn't work.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Bayes

Quote from: xxlakis on Jun 05, 01:08 AM 2011
I really don't know why you are wasting your minds just to prove that somebody's opininions about roulette are wrongThe beauty or curse about roulette it's that there are NO FACTS about it nor WRONG or RIGHT.It's a game of chance and whatever system you are using if you have bad luck nothing can save you.From my point of view al systems are nothing more that just the way somebody thinks about roulette and how express it.There is no right or wrong when you express yourself as long as it doesn't affect other people.So if you don't like somebody ideas just..live and let them lose!

You can't really say that there are no facts about roulette. The distribution of numbers do conform very closely to probability theory, so to that extent all the results of probability (given certain assumptions) are facts. You don't have to believe this, anyone can discover it for themselves. However, I guess what you're saying is that there are no methods for picking numbers which will result in consistently winning, so numerology is just as effective in that regard as probability theory and statistics is. That may be true, but it doesn't put numerology on a par with probability theory in terms of predictive value. The latter is used by the casinos themselves to get their edge, and in countless other scientific and commercial contexts. Numerology doesn't have any basis in fact whatsoever, there is zero evidence that it 'works' on any level.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

ophis

Is this all because numerology system have been implemented in MST?

I know this system is "lame" so to speak but it is a great filler because it bets only 6 plain number and there are moments that this method is working very nicely.

If you dont like it you can always turn it off  :thumbsup:
Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

Bayes

Quote from: ophis on Jun 05, 08:22 AM 2011
Is this all because numerology system have been implemented in MST?

I don't think so Ophis, at least not as far as I'm concerned. I don't have any objection to it being implemented in MST. The way I see it, your tracker is an experiment in trending, so in that regard one system is as good as another.  ;)

However, could  someone point me to where the system is posted? I'm curious to take a look at it.

cheers.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

ophis

Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

WannaWin

Well ... numerology.

The flagship forum  of numerology has already fallen because you can not sustain it with 13-31, 00-11-22-33 and other theories based on stickers pasted on the disc.

It's a shame because it was another roulette resource and I do not like when you lose any resource. But in the end I guess this will increase visits to the serious forums.

That was also the last chance to communicate with the older members of the past decade, season 2006-2010 that fell prey to numerology and no longer approached other discussion sites.

In the end I hope we embrace the present with sharper members that do not fall into things like numerology without first testing and then draw to conclusions later.

I too thank the effort of Mr. Ophis to make its tracker of numerology, because I guess like any other combination of numbers numerology combinations also have their moment of being hot and they are neither better nor worse than the other combinations for the tracker.

WannaWin
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

xxlakis

Quote from: Bayes on Jun 05, 08:06 AM 2011
You can't really say that there are no facts about roulette. The distribution of numbers do conform very closely to probability theory, so to that extent all the results of probability (given certain assumptions) are facts. You don't have to believe this, anyone can discover it for themselves. However, I guess what you're saying is that there are no methods for picking numbers which will result in consistently winning, so numerology is just as effective in that regard as probability theory and statistics is. That may be true, but it doesn't put numerology on a par with probability theory in terms of predictive value. The latter is used by the casinos themselves to get their edge, and in countless other scientific and commercial contexts. Numerology doesn't have any basis in fact whatsoever, there is zero evidence that it 'works' on any level.

Listen Bayes even propability doesn't count as fact in my mind.I am actually a math guy and i play depending on propabilities(actually one of your posts gave me the basic idea of my system so by the way i should thank you :thumbsup:).But my main argue about all this is that you are fighting about other people choices.It's their money so they can do whatever they want with them.As i said to my previous post let them play and lose them if this system is a crap.From the other end i understand that you want this forum to stay really productive as everybody else want's with good ideas about the game.Well i am afraid this is impossible.You know i am really tired about recycling the same ideas about patterns(i don't believe in this concept) and matrixes and such staff.Even if you track with 10 wide matrixes and wait for 20 triggers in the end your bet will have the same chances as if you would flip a coin to decide.I believe that the combination of good propability play with a good money management is the golden rule but this is my opinion.

WannaWin

Quote from: xxlakis on Jun 05, 05:08 PM 2011
Listen Bayes even propability doesn't count as fact in my mind.
Mr. xlakis, I would like to comment with respect.

The probability may be one of the few undisputed facts in roulette.

Things always conform their chance. And if compliance is not yet a fact, then it is only because it is an insufficient long-term.

There are temporary winners, that can not be doubted. But that does not mean that the mathematics of game is wrong or that it does not allow people to win. Even for long periods.

The larger the sample of numbers, the greater the deviations. Whether the positive mathematical advantage or not.

So when the casino in his great long-term and virtually infinite banking gave some money to the players, it makes no major concerns.

Remember that any negative the casino happens to have, it is bound to recover in the long run, when the chance to run conforms to their probability as expected.

The casino has the probability as a fact. And put huge amounts of money on this. Please believe if probabilistic margins were only an unproven theory, there would be no man's business in the world that bankrolled it and casinos would not exist, simply as such.

Thanks for your read.

WannaWin
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

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