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Just a fun observation.

Started by ego, Aug 27, 01:26 AM 2011

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ego

 
Disclaimer.
I don't play roulette systems - but some times i place some dummy bets to get time to pass by or look occupied at the table.

The following is not a method or system - it is just observations.

This is for me a conflict and fun observation.
Snowman once mention how some one could use the previous five and reduce the house edge to certain degree playing certain wheels - but not that the house edge would vanish.
So i took a deeper look into this topic and start to experiment with other parameters using the previous five.

This values show the frequencies of repeats.
First column show how many times the repeats hit - Frequencies.
The second column show when the first repeat appeared.

158 - 2
249 - 3
371 - 4
459 - 5
546 - 6
524 - 7
531 - 8
478 - 9
437 - 10
368 - 11
278 - 12
222 - 13
150 - 14

This simulation show that repeats has a peak at 6th, 7th and 8th spin with the highest values.

Frequencies of attack window.
If we would trust this simulation - then one attack window of three would be optimal after previous five - optional a attack window of four.

Conflict and different parameters.
Now i wondering if we take this futher and take even money as option using previous five.
Lets assume we collect series of five black or series of five red - then would it not be better follow that colour then play against it - as we expect one repeat within three attempts then playing against that the opposite colour would show - if we assume and apply one attack window of three both ways.

Even money bets has a 50/50 probability to show - no matter past results - but how does this effect example of the previous five as one extra parameter effect probability, fluctuation, strike rate - is it possible that there exist a slight and very small difference in following the previous five then play against them with my description above using even money bets.

This is just one simple introduction of one simple observation and it exist many ways to twist and add other parameters - i just find it fun to elaborate about it.

Cheers





Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

 
The following is just a visual observation.
I just for fun test high/low to see how many of does attacks that include one repeat.

13 attacks where 6 include one repeat and all won.

1
5
4
7
8 Previos 5 Low No repeats

3 Won
22
35

- - -

20
29
33
31
26 Previos 5 High One repeat

7  Loss
32 Won
26 Repeat

- - -

28
19
34
24
25 Previos 5 High One repeat

32 Won
1
24 Repeat

- - -

26
28
31
27
23 Previos 5 High One repeat

20 Won
25
26 Repeat

- - -

35
20
29
32
23 Previos 5 High No repeat

3  Loss
27 Won
17

- - -

28
33
20
35
29 Previos 5 High No repeat

30 Won
1
15

- - -

9
11
1
7
18 Previos 5 Low One repeat

11 Won Repeat
9  Repeat
9  Repeat

- - -

30
24
26
21
27 Previos 5 High No repeat

28 Won
25
32

- - -

22
29
30
19
25 Previos 5 High No repeat

11 Loss
14 Loss
21 Won

- - -

24
28
21
22
31 Previos 5 High No repeat

0  Loss
36 Won
32

- - -

22
27
20
25
29 Previos 5 High One repeat

27 Won Repeat
11
23

- - -

24
23
33
22
31 Previos 5 High No repeat

29 Won
36
35

- - -

10
17
12
5
18 Previos 5 Low One repeat

17 Won Repeat
20
31

Cheers

   
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Nathanael

4 out of 5 in results in Red or Black, Hi or Lo, Odd or Even

Bet next 3 spins on dominant, 1-2-4.   
If lose, wait for new trigger, bet 4-8-16  2 times then back to 1-2-4
If lose, wait for new trigger, bet 16-32-64  2 times then back to 4-8-16
If lose, STOP

Yes?  No?
Don't think that because your system has never lost, it can't lose.  Always be prepared for the worst.

Nathanael

Short test    185 spins
R/B +24
E/O  +21
H/L  +24
1st bet = 23 wins    2nd bet = 14 wins     3rd bet = 15 wins   Losses = 6 at 1-2-4 and 1 at 4-8-16  all recovered.
Don't think that because your system has never lost, it can't lose.  Always be prepared for the worst.

ego

 
Hello - my suggestion is to skip the Marty as 1 1 1 will do just fine as first stage of attack.
Secound stage would be 1 2 2 and if a lose you would only be down -4 or -8 units.
Not much to recoup.

Even better would be to play High/Low using the lines 123 and 456 with would allow you use minimum money to play - as where i come from we have minimum 2 Euro on the layout and minimum 10 Euro on even money position - that would be 4 Euro less using the even money position with the lines.

I just want to mention this is just a probabiltiy question and not a method or system.
I don't use that kind of play - but this kind of observation i mention above i could suggest that my mother could use.
Average action and don't get ruin.

This is why there is no reason to use Marty:

W 1 +1
L 1 +0
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
L 1 +4
L 1 +3
W 1 +4
L 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7

Total +7 units 

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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