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Break The Pattern!

Started by GLC, Jul 23, 10:34 PM 2011

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GLC

I was going to call this “Pattern Breaker” but someone already beat me to it.

This is an Even Chance system (who would have thought it?) that uses a modified 8 step martingale.

We will be identifying a pattern that has happened 3 times and then we are going to bet 8 times that it won't continue to occur.  That means that a pattern would have to occur 11 times for us to lose our progression.

This system is a little complex and we will have to practice quite a bit to be proficient enough to be able play it perfectly.

But, not to worry.  Since roulette is random, a little slip or missed bet here or there isn't going to guarantee a loss.  I've often missed a bet and won when if I'd placed it correctly, I'd have lost.

So if you are new to roulette, don't despair.  You too can win with this system, but you will have to “focus like a laser beam.”  As will we all!

I am going to use the High/Low even chance for my explanation.  The patterns we are looking for are based on movement.  HHHH this is a pattern, but there's no movement and so it does not qualify.

Here's an example of what we're trying to do.

If we get something like HLHLHLH(H) our 1st bet is for H.  A single H has moved to L 3 consecutive times.  We begin betting that it won't continue to duplicate that pattern.  If it does move to L we do not bet against L moving to H even though there have been 3 consecutive patterns of L moving to H. We only bet on one pattern at a time.  If L spins we lose our 1st bet and we wait until another H shows and we bet our 2nd bet for H.  If another L shows, we once again wait until an H shows and we bet our 3rd bet for H.  We continue to bet for H to double up instead of staying a single until we win or lose 8 bets. That means in order for us to lose, we have to have HLHLHLHLHLHLHLHLHLHLHL, or HLHLHLHLLHLLLHLHLLHLHLLHLHL or any such pattern as long as H doesn't double up we continue to bet our progression.

That's the basics of the bet selection process.
Here are some other patterns:

LHHLLHHLHHLLLH  Bet L trying to stop H from becoming HH a 4the time.
HHHLLLHHHLLLHHHLHH Bet L trying to stop HH from becoming HHH.
HLHHLHHLH Bet L trying to stop HLH from repeating a 4the time.
HLLHLLHLL  Bet L trying to stop HLL from repeating a 4the time.

Really the possibilities are endless.

The Progression is an 8 step modified martingale.  I use a modified martingale because the wheel I play on has a 100 unit maximum bet.

If lose      Bet      If win
-1            1       +1
-3            2       +1
-7            4       +1
-15          8       +1
-29          14      -1
-56          27      -2
-109        53      -3
-209        100    -9

As you can see we win +1 if we win within the 1st four bets.  After that we begin losing a small amount on a win.  Mostly we are interested in damage control in the later bets.  It should be rare that we lose at those levels.

There is no recovery level unless you want to include one.  You could have enough units to play another progression starting with 2 or even 3 if you want that option.  Of course your buy-in would be larger accordingly.

To get plenty of bets, we are aiming to play all 3 even chance locations simultaneously.  If we are going to only have 1 bank, we should only play 1 pattern at a time.  This pattern could be on any of the 3 even chances.  If we want to play multiple patterns at once, we will need a bank for each even chance. We should stay with only 1 pattern on any even chance at a time. What I mean is HLHLHLH we could play both H and L at the same time, and if you're very clever and competent with roulette, maybe you will want to do that.  Just make sure you have enough bank.

Option #1:  Instead of chasing a pattern for a win, bet once or twice or whatever, and if no win, wait for a new pattern and continue the progression from where you left off.

Option #2:  Instead of an 8 step marty, you can use a 2,3 or 4 step marty and use levels for recovery in case of loss.

Example:  1-2-4  If lose at this level go to 2-4-8 or 3-6-12 to recover.  If lose a 2nd time before recovery, go to 4-8-16 or 5-10-20 etc...

Option #3:  I think it's a little riskier, I can't give you a mathematical reason why, but you could use patterns like HHHH or LLLL.  You'll definitely have more bets. It's just that I see streaks of colors so often, I'm a little shy of betting for them to stop.

That's the system.  I'm sure with all the expertise on this forum, we can mold this into a more efficient system than I've presented.

Good Luck,

GLC

Feel free to voice any opinions against progressions, trends, patterns, positive progressions, etc...

You know me.  I like people to have as much info as possible when deciding what systems to play.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

marivo

Quote from: GLC on Jul 23, 10:34 PM 2011
You too can win with this system, but you will have to “focus like a laser beam.”  As will we all!


We need pattern recognizing tool here.

Proofreaders2000


GLC

Quote from: marivo on Jul 24, 05:57 AM 2011

We need pattern recognizing tool here.


That would be nice but I can't see how you can write a program that will do this without picking every pattern you're looking for and have the computer just look for those patterns.  I'm not a programmer, but this looks too difficult to code otherwise.


You don't have to see every pattern possible.  Just look for some basic ones on all 3 ec's and bet the ones you notice.  While you're betting one pattern, you will be paying attention for other patterns.


This is very similar to "pattern 4" it's just not in a matrix.  It's not that difficult to see a pattern as long as you're not stressing over missing one and thinking you've screwed up.


Start with one e.c. and you'll find out that there's a lot of tracking and very little betting.  I've gone over some old spins and haven't found a pattern yet that lasted 11 times in a row.  We know they are possible since we're dealing with random, just not that common.


I'm realizing that waiting for 3 to form and then betting against them is a very safe version.  I could have included another option to only wait for 2 or even 1.  For some cautious players, waiting for 4 might be preferable.


I have started looking for these patterns while playing other systems like "best of 3"and when I see one, I start betting against it continuing.  I'm sure I miss some, but that doesn't matter.  The ones I do see have always been winners.  Granted, 1 unit at a time may not be enough to quit your day job, but like Flatino says, it'll buy "bread and smokes".


For those of you who are playing the matrix systems, you can also look for patterns in your matrices.  I see them all the time.  Start betting against them continuing.  This idea can be applied to both, straight line of spins or a matrix of your favorite width.  4 wide, 5 wide, 7 wide.  What ever you're playing or like.


Like I've said before, few if any of the systems have a set way to play them.  Use your own rules.  We may decide that a certain way appears to be better, but that could change down the road.  Even the bet is subject to preference.  Maybe there's one bet method that works best, but if one works, many others may also.


With this system, I don't think something like Alembert will work that well because we are playing for 1 win out of 8 tries.  That means that the marty could win easily and the Alembert could lose miserably.  Depends on how many losses we average before we get our win.  But, from my experience, and this is only logical, the vast majority of wins are on the 1st or 2nd bets.


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

If you want to bet HHHH, why not wait until you have 6 HHHHHH and then start betting that the streak will end. 


I have been working on another bet method based on Barcode's idea of betting 3 bets per level.




We start by betting 1 unit.  If it wins, we are +1, repeat.


When we lose, that represents the first loss in our 3 bet series.  The results can be +1, -1 or -3.
We have lost our 1st bet, if we lose our 2nd bet and win our 3rd bet or win our 2nd bet and lose our 3rd bet, we will be -1.  If we win the next 2 bets we will be +1.  If we lose all 3 bets we will be -3.


If the 3 bet result is +1 or -1, we stay at the level we're at.  If the result is -3 we move to the next betting level.


Progression is:
1        (1-3)
2        (4-9)
3        (10-18)
5        (19-33)
7        (34-54)
10      (55-84)
13      (85-123)
17      (124-174)
21      (175-237)


The numbers to the right represent the range you will be in when you lose at each level.  That's not counting any 1 unit wins or losses that may affect the numbers somewhat.


Once we are at a level in the progression, we should stay at that level until we win enough to drop back 2 levels.  This will help recover more quickly, albeit it adds an element of risk.  Risk vs Reward.


If you don't mind taking longer, you can drop back  each level Alembert style.

This is just an idea.  Any thoughts?


George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

I have been testing this a little more and I think the best way to play it is to look for 3 singles in a row: example: HHLHLHHHLHH Now the next time we get an L we bet L again to break the 3 singles pattern.


We do the same thing for 3 in a row of 2 or more: example: LHHHLHHLHHHHL  The next time we get an H we immediately bet for an L to break the multiple H pattern.  We get these patterns often and there should not be much waiting for a bet if we are tracking all three even chances.  Once you're proficient with the system, you can also bet for an L after the last L in the row of spins above to break the single L pattern.


We can also look for 3 in a row of doubles: HLLHHHLLHHHHLLH  The next time we get an L, we should immediately bet for H to break the double LL pattern.


These are easy patterns to see if you write out the e.c.'s in columns.  They jump out at you.  And, you can see them forming before they get here which gives you a heads-up that a bet may be coming.


I'm still leaning toward the 8 step marty.  I haven't seen a losing pattern in about 2,000 spins.  I must admit that I have had a couple of wins on the 7th step.  That's a little scary.


The set of 3's may be a better method.  We'll see how I feel after a loss on the Marty.


G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

I was continuing my checking for the patterns and I ran across 2 losses almost back to back.  Each pattern ended after on the 9th bet which is 1 bet too far.  I don't know if I should  start waiting until 4 or 5 in a row before starting to bet or drop the marty and go with the sets of 3.


I think I will start looking at how the sets of 3 will work.  By doing that, we don't have to worry about a pattern continuing for a large number of times.  It could be that singles and doubles are too common a pattern to include in this system.  Kind of like HHHH or LLLL.  I could see how it fares if I wait for 6 instead of 3 to start my 8 step marty on these simple patterns.


This is why I put this in the notepad section.  It's not a solid system yet, but I do think it can become one with a little work.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Quote from: GLC on Jul 24, 07:55 PM 2011
I don't know if I should  start waiting until 4 or 5 in a row before starting to bet or drop the marty and go with the sets of 3.

I could see how it fares if I wait for 6 instead of 3 to start my 8 step marty on these simple patterns.



These 2 statements are an example of back engineering.  That is creating rules based on observed results.  On rare occasion it will work out okay, but most of the time it's a waste.  After thinking about it, I think in this case it's a waste.  For one, it will drastically limit the number of betting opportunities and the losses will still happen and when they do, they'll be just as devastating.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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