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Started by winner3, Aug 11, 05:40 AM 2011

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mr.ore

hell img, just attached bad img last post and can't edit attachment anymore

RouletteExplorer

sorry i can t understand you mr ore......
Are you testing now with the correct version of the winner3 system? or what??  ???
What we need is new thinking...

mr.ore

hell sequence:

[reveal]
LLLWWLLLLWLWWWWLLLWLWLWWWWLWLWWLWLWLLWWLWWWWLWWWLWWLWLWLWWLLLLLLWWWLLWWWWLWLWLLWLWWWLLWWWWWLLLLLWWWLWWWWLWWLWWWWLWWWWLLWLWLWWWLLWWWWWWWLWWWLWLWLLWWWLWWWLLLLWWWLLLWWWWWLLWWLWWLWLWLWWWLLWLLWLWLWWWWWLWLWLLLWWWLWWWWLWWLWWWWLLLWLWLWLLLWLWWLWWWWWLWWWWWWLWLLWWLWLWWWLLLWWWLWLWWWWLWLWWLWLLWLWWLWWLWWLWL
[/reveal]

remove first L in sequence above and it is heaven

because that one L causes system not to recover and reset session, and then another drawdown kills it because of exponential growth of bet size

mabye some tuning of that constant 1.5 would help


RouletteExplorer

OK please listen to me for 1 last time....please.

when we are in a new + ,then we reset all !
when we have a winning spin BUT we are still down we do not reset anything !!!!
The winning spins must become +1 and the total loss must become -the winning chips of the spin.....and ofcource the losing spins must remain same because we WON....
What we need is new thinking...

RouletteExplorer

And when we have a losing spin.....THE BETS REMAIN the same as in the previous spin !
What we need is new thinking...

mr.ore

hell session dump:


bet: (1,1,0)
33
L
balance: -2
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
29
L
balance: -4
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
29
L
balance: -6
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
24
W, bet = (--5/(1.5*3-1)=(--5/3.500) = 2
balance: -5
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
7
W, bet = (--3/(1.5*3-2)=(--3/2.500) = 2
balance: -3
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
25
L
balance: -7
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
28
L
balance: -11
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
34
L
balance: -15
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
34
L
balance: -19
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
21
W, bet = (--17/(1.5*7-3)=(--17/7.500) = 3
balance: -17
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
33
L
balance: -23
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
5
W, bet = (--20/(1.5*8-4)=(--20/8.000) = 3
balance: -20
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
3
W, bet = (--17/(1.5*8-5)=(--17/7.000) = 3
balance: -17
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
2
W, bet = (--14/(1.5*8-6)=(--14/6.000) = 3
balance: -14
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
11
W, bet = (--11/(1.5*8-7)=(--11/5.000) = 3
balance: -11
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
33
L
balance: -17
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
28
L
balance: -23
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
36
L
balance: -29
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
22
W, bet = (--26/(1.5*11-8)=(--26/8.500) = 4
balance: -26
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
32
L
balance: -34
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
1
W, bet = (--30/(1.5*12-9)=(--30/9.000) = 4
balance: -30
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
27
L
balance: -38
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
8
W, bet = (--34/(1.5*13-10)=(--34/9.500) = 4
balance: -34
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
15
W, bet = (--30/(1.5*13-11)=(--30/8.500) = 4
balance: -30
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
19
W, bet = (--26/(1.5*13-12)=(--26/7.500) = 4
balance: -26
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
22
W, bet = (--22/(1.5*13-13)=(--22/6.500) = 4
balance: -22
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
25
L
balance: -30
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
2
W, bet = (--26/(1.5*14-14)=(--26/7.000) = 4
balance: -26
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
33
L
balance: -34
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
6
W, bet = (--30/(1.5*15-15)=(--30/7.500) = 4
balance: -30
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
17
W, bet = (--26/(1.5*15-16)=(--26/6.500) = 4
balance: -26
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
26
L
balance: -34
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
16
W, bet = (--30/(1.5*16-17)=(--30/7.000) = 5
balance: -30
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
30
L
balance: -40
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
21
W, bet = (--35/(1.5*17-18)=(--35/7.500) = 5
balance: -35
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
25
L
balance: -45
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
31
L
balance: -55
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
14
W, bet = (--50/(1.5*19-19)=(--50/9.500) = 6
balance: -50
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
6
W, bet = (--44/(1.5*19-20)=(--44/8.500) = 6
balance: -44
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
33
L
balance: -56
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
9
W, bet = (--50/(1.5*20-21)=(--50/9.000) = 6
balance: -50
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
19
W, bet = (--44/(1.5*20-22)=(--44/8.000) = 6
balance: -44
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
18
W, bet = (--38/(1.5*20-23)=(--38/7.000) = 6
balance: -38
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
3
W, bet = (--32/(1.5*20-24)=(--32/6.000) = 6
balance: -32
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
29
L
balance: -44
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
22
W, bet = (--38/(1.5*21-25)=(--38/6.500) = 6
balance: -38
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
16
W, bet = (--32/(1.5*21-26)=(--32/5.500) = 6
balance: -32
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
3
W, bet = (--26/(1.5*21-27)=(--26/4.500) = 6
balance: -26
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
33
L
balance: -38
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
11
W, bet = (--32/(1.5*22-28)=(--32/5.000) = 7
balance: -32
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
19
W, bet = (--25/(1.5*22-29)=(--25/4.000) = 7
balance: -25
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
26
L
balance: -39
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
12
W, bet = (--32/(1.5*23-30)=(--32/4.500) = 8
balance: -32
-------

bet: (8,8,0)
30
L
balance: -48
-------

bet: (8,8,0)
24
W, bet = (--40/(1.5*24-31)=(--40/5.000) = 8
balance: -40
-------

bet: (8,8,0)
32
L
balance: -56
-------

bet: (8,8,0)
18
W, bet = (--48/(1.5*25-32)=(--48/5.500) = 9
balance: -48
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
2
W, bet = (--39/(1.5*25-33)=(--39/4.500) = 9
balance: -39
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
28
L
balance: -57
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
31
L
balance: -75
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
0
L
balance: -93
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
31
L
balance: -111
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
33
L
balance: -129
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
30
L
balance: -147
-------

bet: (9,9,0)
2
W, bet = (--138/(1.5*31-34)=(--138/12.500) = 12
balance: -138
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
18
W, bet = (--126/(1.5*31-35)=(--126/11.500) = 11
balance: -126
-------

bet: (11,11,0)
3
W, bet = (--115/(1.5*31-36)=(--115/10.500) = 11
balance: -115
-------

bet: (11,11,0)
32
L
balance: -137
-------

bet: (11,11,0)
35
L
balance: -159
-------

bet: (11,11,0)
7
W, bet = (--148/(1.5*33-37)=(--148/12.500) = 12
balance: -148
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
11
W, bet = (--136/(1.5*33-38)=(--136/11.500) = 12
balance: -136
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
10
W, bet = (--124/(1.5*33-39)=(--124/10.500) = 12
balance: -124
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
10
W, bet = (--112/(1.5*33-40)=(--112/9.500) = 12
balance: -112
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
34
L
balance: -136
-------

bet: (12,12,0)
13
W, bet = (--124/(1.5*34-41)=(--124/10.000) = 13
balance: -124
-------

bet: (13,13,0)
26
L
balance: -150
-------

bet: (13,13,0)
22
W, bet = (--137/(1.5*35-42)=(--137/10.500) = 14
balance: -137
-------

bet: (14,14,0)
30
L
balance: -165
-------

bet: (14,14,0)
28
L
balance: -193
-------

bet: (14,14,0)
11
W, bet = (--179/(1.5*37-43)=(--179/12.500) = 15
balance: -179
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
0
L
balance: -209
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
22
W, bet = (--194/(1.5*38-44)=(--194/13.000) = 15
balance: -194
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
20
W, bet = (--179/(1.5*38-45)=(--179/12.000) = 15
balance: -179
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
13
W, bet = (--164/(1.5*38-46)=(--164/11.000) = 15
balance: -164
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
25
L
balance: -194
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
27
L
balance: -224
-------

bet: (15,15,0)
9
W, bet = (--209/(1.5*40-47)=(--209/13.000) = 17
balance: -209
-------

bet: (17,17,0)
13
W, bet = (--192/(1.5*40-48)=(--192/12.000) = 16
balance: -192
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
21
W, bet = (--176/(1.5*40-49)=(--176/11.000) = 16
balance: -176
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
24
W, bet = (--160/(1.5*40-50)=(--160/10.000) = 16
balance: -160
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
10
W, bet = (--144/(1.5*40-51)=(--144/9.000) = 16
balance: -144
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
25
L
balance: -176
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
28
L
balance: -208
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
28
L
balance: -240
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
29
L
balance: -272
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
29
L
balance: -304
-------

bet: (16,16,0)
10
W, bet = (--288/(1.5*45-52)=(--288/15.500) = 19
balance: -288
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
9
W, bet = (--269/(1.5*45-53)=(--269/14.500) = 19
balance: -269
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
12
W, bet = (--250/(1.5*45-54)=(--250/13.500) = 19
balance: -250
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
36
L
balance: -288
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
10
W, bet = (--269/(1.5*46-55)=(--269/14.000) = 20
balance: -269
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
5
W, bet = (--249/(1.5*46-56)=(--249/13.000) = 20
balance: -249
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
4
W, bet = (--229/(1.5*46-57)=(--229/12.000) = 20
balance: -229
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
19
W, bet = (--209/(1.5*46-58)=(--209/11.000) = 19
balance: -209
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
35
L
balance: -247
-------

bet: (19,19,0)
4
W, bet = (--228/(1.5*47-59)=(--228/11.500) = 20
balance: -228
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
8
W, bet = (--208/(1.5*47-60)=(--208/10.500) = 20
balance: -208
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
30
L
balance: -248
-------

bet: (20,20,0)
22
W, bet = (--228/(1.5*48-61)=(--228/11.000) = 21
balance: -228
-------

bet: (21,21,0)
23
W, bet = (--207/(1.5*48-62)=(--207/10.000) = 21
balance: -207
-------

bet: (21,21,0)
11
W, bet = (--186/(1.5*48-63)=(--186/9.000) = 21
balance: -186
-------

bet: (21,21,0)
4
W, bet = (--165/(1.5*48-64)=(--165/8.000) = 21
balance: -165
-------

bet: (21,21,0)
35
L
balance: -207
-------

bet: (21,21,0)
5
W, bet = (--186/(1.5*49-65)=(--186/8.500) = 22
balance: -186
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
13
W, bet = (--164/(1.5*49-66)=(--164/7.500) = 22
balance: -164
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
14
W, bet = (--142/(1.5*49-67)=(--142/6.500) = 22
balance: -142
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
20
W, bet = (--120/(1.5*49-68)=(--120/5.500) = 22
balance: -120
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
25
L
balance: -164
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
30
L
balance: -208
-------

bet: (22,22,0)
23
W, bet = (--186/(1.5*51-69)=(--186/7.500) = 25
balance: -186
-------

bet: (25,25,0)
31
L
balance: -236
-------

bet: (25,25,0)
1
W, bet = (--211/(1.5*52-70)=(--211/8.000) = 27
balance: -211
-------

bet: (27,27,0)
28
L
balance: -265
-------

bet: (27,27,0)
8
W, bet = (--238/(1.5*53-71)=(--238/8.500) = 28
balance: -238
-------

bet: (28,28,0)
3
W, bet = (--210/(1.5*53-72)=(--210/7.500) = 28
balance: -210
-------

bet: (28,28,0)
7
W, bet = (--182/(1.5*53-73)=(--182/6.500) = 28
balance: -182
-------

bet: (28,28,0)
25
L
balance: -238
-------

bet: (28,28,0)
0
L
balance: -294
-------

bet: (28,28,0)
18
W, bet = (--266/(1.5*55-74)=(--266/8.500) = 32
balance: -266
-------

bet: (32,32,0)
22
W, bet = (--234/(1.5*55-75)=(--234/7.500) = 32
balance: -234
-------

bet: (32,32,0)
9
W, bet = (--202/(1.5*55-76)=(--202/6.500) = 32
balance: -202
-------

bet: (32,32,0)
24
W, bet = (--170/(1.5*55-77)=(--170/5.500) = 31
balance: -170
-------

bet: (31,31,0)
3
W, bet = (--139/(1.5*55-78)=(--139/4.500) = 31
balance: -139
-------

bet: (31,31,0)
6
W, bet = (--108/(1.5*55-79)=(--108/3.500) = 31
balance: -108
-------

bet: (31,31,0)
15
W, bet = (--77/(1.5*55-80)=(--77/2.500) = 31
balance: -77
-------

bet: (31,31,0)
26
L
balance: -139
-------

bet: (31,31,0)
8
W, bet = (--108/(1.5*56-81)=(--108/3.000) = 36
balance: -108
-------

bet: (36,36,0)
3
W, bet = (--72/(1.5*56-82)=(--72/2.000) = 36
balance: -72
-------

bet: (36,36,0)
1
W, bet = (--36/(1.5*56-83)=(--36/1.000) = 36
balance: -36
-------

bet: (36,36,0)
34
L
balance: -108
-------

bet: (36,36,0)
7
W, bet = (--72/(1.5*57-84)=(--72/1.500) = 48
balance: -72
-------

bet: (48,48,0)
30
L
balance: -168
-------

bet: (48,48,0)
3
W, bet = (--120/(1.5*58-85)=(--120/2.000) = 60
balance: -120
-------

bet: (60,60,0)
34
L
balance: -240
-------

bet: (60,60,0)
33
L
balance: -360
-------

bet: (60,60,0)
9
W, bet = (--300/(1.5*60-86)=(--300/4.000) = 75
balance: -300
-------

bet: (75,75,0)
6
W, bet = (--225/(1.5*60-87)=(--225/3.000) = 75
balance: -225
-------

bet: (75,75,0)
20
W, bet = (--150/(1.5*60-88)=(--150/2.000) = 75
balance: -150
-------

bet: (75,75,0)
26
L
balance: -300
-------

bet: (75,75,0)
14
W, bet = (--225/(1.5*61-89)=(--225/2.500) = 90
balance: -225
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
3
W, bet = (--135/(1.5*61-90)=(--135/1.500) = 90
balance: -135
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
15
W, bet = (--45/(1.5*61-91)=(--45/0.500) = 90
balance: -45
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
0
L
balance: -225
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
27
L
balance: -405
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
26
L
balance: -585
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
32
L
balance: -765
-------

bet: (90,90,0)
5
W, bet = (--675/(1.5*65-92)=(--675/5.500) = 123
balance: -675
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
15
W, bet = (--552/(1.5*65-93)=(--552/4.500) = 123
balance: -552
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
4
W, bet = (--429/(1.5*65-94)=(--429/3.500) = 123
balance: -429
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
35
L
balance: -675
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
34
L
balance: -921
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
28
L
balance: -1167
-------

bet: (123,123,0)
6
W, bet = (--1044/(1.5*68-95)=(--1044/7.000) = 150
balance: -1044
-------

bet: (150,150,0)
11
W, bet = (--894/(1.5*68-96)=(--894/6.000) = 149
balance: -894
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
23
W, bet = (--745/(1.5*68-97)=(--745/5.000) = 149
balance: -745
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
7
W, bet = (--596/(1.5*68-98)=(--596/4.000) = 149
balance: -596
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
4
W, bet = (--447/(1.5*68-99)=(--447/3.000) = 149
balance: -447
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
0
L
balance: -745
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
36
L
balance: -1043
-------

bet: (149,149,0)
20
W, bet = (--894/(1.5*70-100)=(--894/5.000) = 179
balance: -894
-------

bet: (179,179,0)
5
W, bet = (--715/(1.5*70-101)=(--715/4.000) = 179
balance: -715
-------

bet: (179,179,0)
30
L
balance: -1073
-------

bet: (179,179,0)
18
W, bet = (--894/(1.5*71-102)=(--894/4.500) = 199
balance: -894
-------

bet: (199,199,0)
17
W, bet = (--695/(1.5*71-103)=(--695/3.500) = 199
balance: -695
-------

bet: (199,199,0)
31
L
balance: -1093
-------

bet: (199,199,0)
18
W, bet = (--894/(1.5*72-104)=(--894/4.000) = 224
balance: -894
-------

bet: (224,224,0)
29
L
balance: -1342
-------

bet: (224,224,0)
5
W, bet = (--1118/(1.5*73-105)=(--1118/4.500) = 249
balance: -1118
-------

bet: (249,249,0)
33
L
balance: -1616
-------

bet: (249,249,0)
15
W, bet = (--1367/(1.5*74-106)=(--1367/5.000) = 274
balance: -1367
-------

bet: (274,274,0)
24
W, bet = (--1093/(1.5*74-107)=(--1093/4.000) = 274
balance: -1093
-------

bet: (274,274,0)
2
W, bet = (--819/(1.5*74-108)=(--819/3.000) = 273
balance: -819
-------

bet: (273,273,0)
35
L
balance: -1365
-------

bet: (273,273,0)
27
L
balance: -1911
-------

bet: (273,273,0)
21
W, bet = (--1638/(1.5*76-109)=(--1638/5.000) = 328
balance: -1638
-------

bet: (328,328,0)
36
L
balance: -2294
-------

bet: (328,328,0)
31
L
balance: -2950
-------

bet: (328,328,0)
9
W, bet = (--2622/(1.5*78-110)=(--2622/7.000) = 375
balance: -2622
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bet: (375,375,0)
25
L
balance: -3372
-------

bet: (375,375,0)
23
W, bet = (--2997/(1.5*79-111)=(--2997/7.500) = 400
balance: -2997
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bet: (400,400,0)
32
L
balance: -3797
-------

bet: (400,400,0)
8
W, bet = (--3397/(1.5*80-112)=(--3397/8.000) = 425
balance: -3397
-------

bet: (425,425,0)
22
W, bet = (--2972/(1.5*80-113)=(--2972/7.000) = 425
balance: -2972
-------

bet: (425,425,0)
6
W, bet = (--2547/(1.5*80-114)=(--2547/6.000) = 425
balance: -2547
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bet: (425,425,0)
18
W, bet = (--2122/(1.5*80-115)=(--2122/5.000) = 425
balance: -2122
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bet: (425,425,0)
12
W, bet = (--1697/(1.5*80-116)=(--1697/4.000) = 425
balance: -1697
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bet: (425,425,0)
28
L
balance: -2547
-------

bet: (425,425,0)
15
W, bet = (--2122/(1.5*81-117)=(--2122/4.500) = 472
balance: -2122
-------

bet: (472,472,0)
31
L
balance: -3066
-------

bet: (472,472,0)
11
W, bet = (--2594/(1.5*82-118)=(--2594/5.000) = 519
balance: -2594
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bet: (519,519,0)
31
L
balance: -3632
-------

bet: (519,519,0)
27
L
balance: -4670
-------

bet: (519,519,0)
26
L
balance: -5708
-------

bet: (519,519,0)
7
W, bet = (--5189/(1.5*85-119)=(--5189/8.500) = 611
balance: -5189
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bet: (611,611,0)
5
W, bet = (--4578/(1.5*85-120)=(--4578/7.500) = 611
balance: -4578
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bet: (611,611,0)
16
W, bet = (--3967/(1.5*85-121)=(--3967/6.500) = 611
balance: -3967
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bet: (611,611,0)
25
L
balance: -5189
-------

bet: (611,611,0)
7
W, bet = (--4578/(1.5*86-122)=(--4578/7.000) = 654
balance: -4578
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bet: (654,654,0)
16
W, bet = (--3924/(1.5*86-123)=(--3924/6.000) = 654
balance: -3924
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bet: (654,654,0)
23
W, bet = (--3270/(1.5*86-124)=(--3270/5.000) = 654
balance: -3270
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bet: (654,654,0)
17
W, bet = (--2616/(1.5*86-125)=(--2616/4.000) = 654
balance: -2616
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bet: (654,654,0)
30
L
balance: -3924
-------

bet: (654,654,0)
11
W, bet = (--3270/(1.5*87-126)=(--3270/4.500) = 727
balance: -3270
-------

bet: (727,727,0)
2
W, bet = (--2543/(1.5*87-127)=(--2543/3.500) = 727
balance: -2543
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bet: (727,727,0)
33
L
balance: -3997
-------

bet: (727,727,0)
22
W, bet = (--3270/(1.5*88-128)=(--3270/4.000) = 818
balance: -3270
-------

bet: (818,818,0)
4
W, bet = (--2452/(1.5*88-129)=(--2452/3.000) = 818
balance: -2452
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bet: (818,818,0)
23
W, bet = (--1634/(1.5*88-130)=(--1634/2.000) = 817
balance: -1634
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bet: (817,817,0)
10
W, bet = (--817/(1.5*88-131)=(--817/1.000) = 817
balance: -817
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bet: (817,817,0)
0
L
balance: -2451
-------

bet: (817,817,0)
30
L
balance: -4085
-------

bet: (817,817,0)
32
L
balance: -5719
-------

bet: (817,817,0)
24
W, bet = (--4902/(1.5*91-132)=(--4902/4.500) = 1090
balance: -4902
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bet: (1090,1090,0)
33
L
balance: -7082
-------

bet: (1090,1090,0)
6
W, bet = (--5992/(1.5*92-133)=(--5992/5.000) = 1199
balance: -5992
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bet: (1199,1199,0)
0
L
balance: -8390
-------

bet: (1199,1199,0)
12
W, bet = (--7191/(1.5*93-134)=(--7191/5.500) = 1308
balance: -7191
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bet: (1308,1308,0)
30
L
balance: -9807
-------

bet: (1308,1308,0)
28
L
balance: -12423
-------

bet: (1308,1308,0)
0
L
balance: -15039
-------

bet: (1308,1308,0)
1
W, bet = (--13731/(1.5*96-135)=(--13731/9.000) = 1526
balance: -13731
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bet: (1526,1526,0)
26
L
balance: -16783
-------

bet: (1526,1526,0)
23
W, bet = (--15257/(1.5*97-136)=(--15257/9.500) = 1606
balance: -15257
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bet: (1606,1606,0)
21
W, bet = (--13651/(1.5*97-137)=(--13651/8.500) = 1606
balance: -13651
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bet: (1606,1606,0)
27
L
balance: -16863
-------

bet: (1606,1606,0)
10
W, bet = (--15257/(1.5*98-138)=(--15257/9.000) = 1696
balance: -15257
-------

bet: (1696,1696,0)
7
W, bet = (--13561/(1.5*98-139)=(--13561/8.000) = 1696
balance: -13561
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bet: (1696,1696,0)
6
W, bet = (--11865/(1.5*98-140)=(--11865/7.000) = 1695
balance: -11865
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bet: (1695,1695,0)
14
W, bet = (--10170/(1.5*98-141)=(--10170/6.000) = 1695
balance: -10170
-------

bet: (1695,1695,0)
21
W, bet = (--8475/(1.5*98-142)=(--8475/5.000) = 1695
balance: -8475
-------

bet: (1695,1695,0)
26
L
balance: -11865
-------

bet: (1695,1695,0)
12
W, bet = (--10170/(1.5*99-143)=(--10170/5.500) = 1850
balance: -10170
-------

bet: (1850,1850,0)
2
W, bet = (--8320/(1.5*99-144)=(--8320/4.500) = 1849
balance: -8320
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bet: (1849,1849,0)
24
W, bet = (--6471/(1.5*99-145)=(--6471/3.500) = 1849
balance: -6471
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bet: (1849,1849,0)
1
W, bet = (--4622/(1.5*99-146)=(--4622/2.500) = 1849
balance: -4622
-------

bet: (1849,1849,0)
16
W, bet = (--2773/(1.5*99-147)=(--2773/1.500) = 1849
balance: -2773
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bet: (1849,1849,0)
11
W, bet = (--924/(1.5*99-148)=(--924/0.500) = 1848
balance: -924
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bet: (1848,1848,0)
13
W - reset
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bet: (1,1,0)
4
W - reset
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
7
W - reset
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
36
L
balance: -2
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
18
W, bet = (--1/(1.5*1-1)=(--1/0.500) = 2
balance: -1
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
35
L
balance: -5
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
29
L
balance: -9
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
13
W, bet = (--7/(1.5*3-2)=(--7/2.500) = 3
balance: -7
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
21
W, bet = (--4/(1.5*3-3)=(--4/1.500) = 3
balance: -4
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
31
L
balance: -10
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
16
W, bet = (--7/(1.5*4-4)=(--7/2.000) = 4
balance: -7
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
33
L
balance: -15
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
11
W, bet = (--11/(1.5*5-5)=(--11/2.500) = 5
balance: -11
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
1
W, bet = (--6/(1.5*5-6)=(--6/1.500) = 4
balance: -6
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
17
W, bet = (--2/(1.5*5-7)=(--2/0.500) = 4
balance: -2
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
34
L
balance: -10
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
32
L
balance: -18
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
25
L
balance: -26
-------

bet: (4,4,0)
4
W, bet = (--22/(1.5*8-8)=(--22/4.000) = 6
balance: -22
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
2
W, bet = (--16/(1.5*8-9)=(--16/3.000) = 6
balance: -16
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
8
W, bet = (--10/(1.5*8-10)=(--10/2.000) = 5
balance: -10
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
36
L
balance: -20
-------

bet: (5,5,0)
5
W, bet = (--15/(1.5*9-11)=(--15/2.500) = 6
balance: -15
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
29
L
balance: -27
-------

bet: (6,6,0)
12
W, bet = (--21/(1.5*10-12)=(--21/3.000) = 7
balance: -21
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
21
W, bet = (--14/(1.5*10-13)=(--14/2.000) = 7
balance: -14
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
10
W, bet = (--7/(1.5*10-14)=(--7/1.000) = 7
balance: -7
-------

bet: (7,7,0)
23
W, bet = 1
balance: 0
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
17
W - reset
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bet: (1,1,0)
29
L
balance: -2
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
2
W, bet = (--1/(1.5*1-1)=(--1/0.500) = 2
balance: -1
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
28
L
balance: -5
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
13
W, bet = (--3/(1.5*2-2)=(--3/1.000) = 3
balance: -3
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
2
W, bet = 1
balance: 0
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
3
W - reset
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
30
L
balance: -2
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
10
W, bet = (--1/(1.5*1-1)=(--1/0.500) = 2
balance: -1
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
23
W - reset
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
31
L
balance: -2
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
25
L
balance: -4
-------

bet: (1,1,0)
20
W, bet = (--3/(1.5*2-1)=(--3/2.000) = 2
balance: -3
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
33
L
balance: -7
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
1
W, bet = (--5/(1.5*3-2)=(--5/2.500) = 2
balance: -5
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
14
W, bet = (--3/(1.5*3-3)=(--3/1.500) = 2
balance: -3
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
28
L
balance: -7
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
12
W, bet = (--5/(1.5*4-4)=(--5/2.000) = 3
balance: -5
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
23
W, bet = (--2/(1.5*4-5)=(--2/1.000) = 2
balance: -2
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
28
L
balance: -6
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
4
W, bet = (--4/(1.5*5-6)=(--4/1.500) = 3
balance: -4
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
12
W, bet = (--1/(1.5*5-7)=(--1/0.500) = 2
balance: -1
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
34
L
balance: -5
-------

bet: (2,2,0)
6
W, bet = (--3/(1.5*6-8)=(--3/1.000) = 3
balance: -3
-------

bet: (3,3,0)
34
L
balance: -9
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bet: (3,3,0)


RouletteExplorer

you are not confirming if you have the program correct according to the rules i posted above.
so until you have the program made correctly or tell that you have followed the rules,  we can t take any of the tests sirious.
What we need is new thinking...

mr.ore

I confirm it to be original version, winning session does not become +1, but whatever positive. Reset if positive, but not if balance is back to zero, then it continues betting.

RouletteExplorer

ok so if all correct then it s not a playable system ... right?
What we need is new thinking...

frost

do you know why this doesn't work?


BECAUSE OF ZERO.


playing 2 dozens at a time does give you 63%-64% chance of hitting your desired numbers.


HOWEVER


when playing 2 dozens for every 1 units you win you lose 2 units.


you would need to play this system on a NO ZERO table to break even. or quit while you are ahead to make a profit.


with the zero included the house edge remains.


the casino advantage doesn't lie in the numbers but in the payouts. which will never change.


in order for this system to be any good


1. stop playing every spin
2. come up with a better progression.


you can try as many different rules as you like but until those 2 options are addressed, Mr. Ore is correct in his testing and winner3 has made a mistake.

RouletteExplorer

Yes frost all the things you said are correct and are the same for every system.

But this is a big mistake :
or quit while you are ahead to make a profit.

when we play a system that can t win in the long run , then quiting when we are ahead won t change anything....because everytime you play it , the long run is comming......

It supposed that winner 3  has included the zero in his formula...
Anyway....
What we need is new thinking...

frost

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Aug 12, 12:53 PM 2011
But this is a big mistake :
or quit while you are ahead to make a profit.

when we play a system that can t win in the long run , then quiting when we are ahead won t change anything....because everytime you play it , the long run is comming......


this is correct and this i already know. what i ment is  when playing on a no zero table like bet voyager this is the only way to leave with a profit. quitting while you are ahead. playing for a long time means all things should in theory return back to how they started.

RouletteExplorer

Oh OK....If you ment on a non zero wheel then ok.....
it s just that i am playing only in real casinos and I always have the zero  :D
What we need is new thinking...

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