ATTENTION ! Street system that passed 10.000 spins!

[RouletteExplorer]

I don't think that 15 spins tracking will changing anything but if you like it.....I have no word on that.It s ur choise 

[Robeenhuut]

MadMax,

brilliant tracker! Must learn Excel programming ...
Any chance for a slight alteration? a tracker of the last 15 spins, as opposed to last 12. I prefer waiting to risking and am wondering if there might be an advantage to waiting for 4  unhit streets on 15 spins.

Regards,

Jeromin

Hello

F u want 2 lower d risk just wait 2 spins after u get yr qualifying numbers after 12 spins  Start betting after u get 2 repeats on already HIT numbers.

More waiting time n less risk.
thanks for pm.

Regards

P.S Sorry 4 insulting post 

[amk]

RouletteExplorer:

"We can t know if something is working or not until we make 1.000.000 spins test."

I think this is a fascinating RouletteExplorer.............

A system cannot be deemed a winner unless it has reached 1 million spins successfully.................

In on sense it is a terrific benchmark however, it would take two years of continual play to reach 1 millions spins LIVE wheel...........

To me this confirms that hit and run has merit.........

To reach 1 million spins is only for the real pros..........

We might be fortunate to reach 1 million spins after 20 years of playing.............

Therefor, we should be more focused on systems which achieve profits over say 300,000 spins....... Remember, our complete lifetime session might only be 300,000 spins..........

Viewed in this light the 1 million spin benchmark is an illusion.................

[RouletteExplorer]

amk my friend there is something that you need to know... please allow me to explain it to you.

The point of testing a system in 1.000.000 spins is NOT standing for to see what will happen IF we will play it in 1.000.000 spins !
The point is to see IF after 1.000.000 spins the system can hold on and not be killed by the house edje.
So if it will pass the test (no system ever did that so far) then its worth playing it....now if our life play will be 300.000 spins or just 100 spins IT DOESN T REALLY MATTER !

If we will test a system in only 300.000 spins as you suggest, the system can pass those 300.000 and be  a winner... BUT in the next 300.000 spins it can be a BIG LOSER !!!!
So what if your REAL PLAY will end up like the 300.000 LOSER test?


BUT when we have a system that passed the ultimate test of 1.000.000 spins then this means that there is a really big possibility that you will be able to win in ur REAL PLAY.

300.000 spins of succesfull test can be LUCK....wile 1.000.000 spins of succesfull test it CAN NOT be luck ! It surely means that we have something that is overcoming the house edje.

Thanks for reading this...and please let me know if you understand it?

[Chrisbis]

Ok.

Can we return to the subject matter here.

Could someone, (pref R.E) give is all an Update on testing, bet placement, and whether this bet has "Morphed" since its first posting?

Most of this type of bet tends to turn a little and get tweaked.
Unless, of course, we have a UNIQUE one, and the designed (Engineered) version is exactly the same as u set out?

Cheers All.

And Well done Jordan. Great set of posts, some of the Best I have seen U make. 

[RouletteExplorer]

""""Could someone, (pref R.E) give is all an Update on testing, bet placement, and whether this bet has "Morphed" since its first posting?""""


Chris my man nothing has changed or modified or tweaked in my system !
So don't worry...everything is like my 1st post.

thanks

[amk]

Hello RouletteExplorer!.........

Thanks for the great post...........

Perhaps you are right however, by this logic there could also be a losing 1 million spin session.............

I do understand your point...........

[RouletteExplorer]

"""Perhaps you are right however, by this logic there could also be a losing 1 million spin session............."""


If a system will pass 1.000.000 then if you will start playing this system and it will lose in the long run as you play.....then something is going on like someone cursed you (LoL) or the wheel is not fair.

The 300.000 spins test however is very little.....so anything can happen.

I like that you understood it though....
And as you see the also very expirienced member iggiv , was hoping for you to read my post and understand it 

This is the Maths true my friend and Roulette is a mathimatical game.

[Chrisbis]

""""Could someone, (pref R.E)........................................................"Morphed" since its first posting?""""


Chris my man nothing has changed...................................

No, thank U     Ro.Ex.
Good Job. [reveal]I wasn't worried!. More like "interested!"[.reveal][/reveal]
Lets see what happens when someone bots it eh! 

[iggiv]

"And as you see the also very experienced member iggiv , was hoping for you to read my post and understand it"

thanx, i am NOT VERY EXPERIENCED, but with what i know already i can draw some conclusions

i tried it very little and it worked. your method i mean. so i can't say really that it is losing right now.

the problem is (for me-- about your method)  that is based on typical gambler fallacy mindset.
"Due theory". that something that did not hit for long time must hit. that's a very dangerous approach to this tricky game. the difference is that u work not with  EC, but rather streets. so far so good, your method showed good results. but i still would not trust it. i could be ok with using it sometimes as hit-n-run, but there is no reason to believe it will work continuously. so anyone can incude it in his arsenal carefully, but better not to use it as a main method to defeat roulette. and not to try it with too big units, where is real danger to lose a lot.  it is practically impossible that cold streets would hit all the time.

and i suggest that maybe option "waking up sleeper" could be used as well.
thanks.

that's what i think about it

[Chrisbis]

Ur comment is both Wise, and Necessary Iggv.

One thing I would say, with Streets, is You can EEK out a good progression, for fairly cheap money, waiting for the "Hammer 2 Fall"............

[amk]

Sorry RouletteExplorer to keep going off topic on this thread and will PM questions after this...........

Is it interesting to test a method over 4 sessions of 250,000 spins. If 3 sessions out of four win you have winner...... 50/50 were alright.............

[Chrisbis]

Nice to see something attracting SO much attention for a change.

And a decent set of posts too.
Keep it up chaps.

R.E. U thought about setting up a dedicated team to test widely?

Would be a good idea.
Strike whilst the IRON is HOT I say. 

[iggiv]

your comment is both Wise, and Necessary Iggv.

One thing I would say, with Streets, is You can EEK out a good progression, for fairly cheap money, waiting for the "Hammer 2 Fall"............

thanks Chris. the progression must be not too long, that's what i think. RExpl mentioned that flat bet is not working but the progression is working. that's NOT A GOOD SIGN. practically we all know that if flatbet is not working with a certain method, the progression would finally fail either, but...it can damage player's pocket much more dramatically and from historical point of view even tragically. that's how people lost their money, their houses and sometimes even their lives. all the people which did not think or know about it should know that "due theory" made lots of damage to gambling people on this planet. Don't be one of them

[RouletteExplorer]

"""the problem is (for me-- about your method)  that is based on typical gambler fallacy mindset.
"Due theory". that something that did not hit for long time must hit. that's a very dangerous approach to this tricky game. the difference is that u work not with  EC, but rather streets. so far so good, your method showed good results. but i still would not trust it. """

Yes ofcource iggiv this is my opinion too as you know and that s why we need a 1.000.000 test it see what is going on.
Any system that is NOT based on VB or BIAS is a gambling fallacy system...but if we wouldn t fight roulette with other ways than VB and bias then this forum would be closed.

"""Nice to see something attracting SO much attention for a change."""

Me too 

"""R.E. U thought about setting up a dedicated team to test widely?"""

I don't think that anyone likes testing manually these days. LoL(sad but true).
That s why we are waiting for a programmer to code it and run the test.


"""RExpl mentioned that flat bet is not working but the progression is working. that's NOT A GOOD SIGN. practically we all know that if flatbet is not working with a certain method, the progression would fail either,"""

Yes iggiv this is what logic say....but we all know also that FLAT BET nothing can win(exept VB or Bias).
So the only thing that we have left is a good money management.(we made a hole topic about this)