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Started by RouletteExplorer, Sep 30, 08:47 PM 2011

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RouletteExplorer

the way of the system is this :  we continue flat betting the same 4 unhit with 4u in each street

now if you have a better idea say it.
What we need is new thinking...

MadMax

I have now tested the same numbers as I did in the upper test with double streets. Here the result looks not so pretty.
Here the statistic:

Spins:         391
Highest BR: +67
Lowest BR: -118
End BR:       -34
Wins:          131
Losses:       254

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I guess, the lower payout and the fact, that sleepers influence this game much more than on the street leads to this effect. ???

Chrisbis

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Chrisbis

what would be u best guess for a starting BR then MadMax?  ???

200?
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MadMax

Hi Chris! I started both tests with 0.
Which BR? Sorry, I really don´t know. As you can see in my first test with streets and in the second graph RouletteExplorer showed us, the drawdowns can be worser than 200 (seen from the top of the graphs). So I would wait for much longer tests to figure out an acceptable BR, which xxlakis maybe will show us later.
RouletteExplorer, what BR would you suggest for this system so far?

RouletteExplorer

Every system with that has progressions like these(eg. T.Genius possible H.G) when we are trying to adapt in in lower payout bets its losing more....
So this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too.  :-\
What we need is new thinking...

Robeenhuut

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Oct 01, 01:23 PM 2011
Every system with that has progressions like these(e.g.. T.Genius possible H.G) when we are trying to adapt in in lower payout bets its losing more....
So this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too.  :-\


Sorry RE


Win to lose ratio here is not high enough. Few streets can sleep for too long time in order to make it viable in the long run. Not enough testing yet done. I actually liked your previous system more. Less risk and more reward.


Regards



Matt

MadMax

QuoteSo this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too.

RouletteExplorer, sadly you and GLC are right. I have written a small programm to simulate the system over 93877 spins and it ended with a loss of 49366 units, started with 0 unit. I´ve checked the first 50 outcomes manually to exclude errors in the code, but there were identical. :(
I´ve attached the graph of the first 7000 spins.

I´m really sorry about that (not only for you, for me also  ;D)

So let´s keep on trying! ;)

RouletteExplorer

Thanks Mad Max.
It is sure by now that its a loser...
so lets move to the next idea  :)
What we need is new thinking...

birdhands

Too bad; I really got my hopes up on this one.  All of my tests must have been on upswings.  Is it really a lost cause?  What if we only bet when there are a certain minimum number of unhit streets?  Like 4 or more?

RouletteExplorer

"""" What if we only bet when there are a certain minimum number of unhit streets?  """""

This is just a classic gambling fallacy my friend... it will also fail.

Take ur attention out off this system and let s make better one.  :)
What we need is new thinking...

birdhands

Yes you're right; I've just done the math.  Che peccato.

stormyace

you better off in my opinion betting on hot street etc than  betting on something that hasnt shown as we know when playing red/black an even chance can sleep for ages

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