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Started by GLC, Oct 15, 06:52 PM 2011

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superman

Quote(I'm having a flu and so I can't go out, I'm a sick person ;) )

LOL mr.ore, get well soon mate
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

iggiv


GLC

Wow, Mr. Ore,


Thanks for taking this and running with it.  You're welcome to hijack any of my systems.  I more than appreciate your work.


I too was thinking that the tracking wasn't doing much.


So you think this can be played with almost any bet selection method because the progression is the key.


Would you mind coding in Atlantis' progression from his Matrix Trendgrabber system.  It's much slower progression.  Starts out
112
122
222
223
233
333
334
etc...


link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.15


Thanks





In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

birdhands

Wow.  If Mr. Ore is excited then I'm off my rocker over here.  Way to go GLC!

GLC

From your tests, it looks like a 500 unit or 1000 unit stop-loss would make this a long term winner.


Is it possible to program in a stop-loss and see how it works.


Also, could you explain your reverse progression.  does that mean you start with 4 and if you lose you drop to 2 and then 1 and any win before 3 losses takes us back to 4?  Since most wins are early in the 3 steps, it's a novel ideal.


What happens if we drop the 4 and just make it a reverse 2 step;


2-1
3-2
3-1
4-3
4-2
4-1
5-4
5-3
5-2
5-1


just thinking out loud.

It's nice to wake up to some stimulating activity on the forum.  Sometimes it's a drag being so many time zones West of most of the members.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

mr.ore

System 112,122,222,etc is not that good. Problem is that sooner or later increase in bet would be too low to take care of house limit, and then it is killed in endless spiral of death because there are table limits. It took some 25k spins before it tanked, but profits very very small.

mr.ore

It seems promising on no-zero only:

2,1,1,
2,2,1,
2,2,2,
3,2,2,
3,3,2,
3,3,3,
4,3,3,
4,4,3,
4,4,4,
5,4,4,
5,5,4,
5,5,5,
6,5,5,
6,6,5,
6,6,6,
7,6,6,
7,7,6,
7,7,7,
8,7,7,
8,8,7,
8,8,8,
9,8,8,
9,9,8,
9,9,9,
10,9,9,
10,10,9,
10,10,10,
leveling on 10

reset on new high

mr.ore

Too crazy even on no-zero, lol :D
But if you CAN play no-zero, play it!

mr.ore

Progression:
[reveal]2,1,
3,2,
3,1,
4,3,
4,2,
4,1,
5,4,
5,3,
5,2,
5,1,
6,5,
6,4,
6,3,
6,2,
6,1,
7,6,
7,5,
7,4,
7,3,
7,2,
7,1,
8,7,
8,6,
8,5,
8,4,
8,3,
8,2,
8,1,
9,8,
9,7,
9,6,
9,5,
9,4,
9,3,
9,2,
9,1,
10,9,
10,8,
10,7,
10,6,
10,5,
10,4,
10,3,
10,2,
10,1,
11,10,
11,9,
11,8,
11,7,
11,6,
11,5,
11,4,
11,3,
11,2,
11,1,
12,11,
12,10,
12,9,
12,8,
12,7,
12,6,
12,5,
12,4,
12,3,
12,2,
12,1,
13,12,
13,11,
13,10,
13,9,
13,8,
13,7,
13,6,
13,5,
13,4,
13,3,
13,2,
13,1,
14,13,
14,12,
14,11,
14,10,
14,9,
14,8,
14,7,
14,6,
14,5,
14,4,
14,3,
14,2,
14,1,
15,14,
15,13,
15,12,
15,11,
15,10,
15,9,
15,8,
15,7,
15,6,
15,5,
15,4,
15,3,
15,2,
15,1,
16,15,
[/reveal]
leveling on last step

no-zero roulette, first results

mr.ore

Do not play it even on no zero, great failure. I can't say how big the unit should be to make it working. Problem is that the longer the progression, the less it saves because it then play 50,49 - 50,48 - 50,47 and so on, the difference between two figures is small, and does not save enough units. Of course this is a more aggressive strategy.

Interesting idea would be to add such think to system after it reaches limits, for example something like:

1,2,4
1,3,6
2,4,8
2,6,12
4,2,1
6,3,1
8,4,2
12,6,2

of course much longer, it would break on 500 to see if theoretically it is possible to beat rng casino long term. The think is that after it lose so many steps, we might "expect" it to start hitting, lol - Gambler's fallacy ;)

But ignore  theory - I can see on my graph that after some time it starts hitting, and it is needed to

a) survive it
b) recover it before another bad fluctuation

ego


Great topic - thanks - it is not every day you read something fresh that trigger your mind.
I like the concept and the basic principal that the method is based upon.
I don't give much for the selection do as i think there is others that produce higher strike ratio witch we need if we don't won't to use one aggressive progression line.
My self test 111 223 xxx ... - works like clock work - thanks for the inspiration.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

Quote from: GLC on Oct 16, 10:45 AM 2011
Wow, Mr. Ore,


Thanks for taking this and running with it.  You're welcome to hijack any of my systems.  I more than appreciate your work.


I too was thinking that the tracking wasn't doing much.


So you think this can be played with almost any bet selection method because the progression is the key.


Would you mind coding in Atlantis' progression from his Matrix Trendgrabber system.  It's much slower progression.  Starts out
112
122
222 Correction ...
223233333334
etc...


link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.15


Thanks
[/color]


My opinion is that the line should be 111 122 223 - just my two cents ...
I will post a chart later today using 111 122 223 234 to illustrate how high strike ratio fix the issue with low bets ...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

warrior

Quote from: mr.ore on Oct 16, 12:31 PM 2011
It seems promising on no-zero only:

2,1,1,
2,2,1,
2,2,2,
3,2,2,
3,3,2,
3,3,3,
4,3,3,
4,4,3,
4,4,4,
5,4,4,
5,5,4,
5,5,5,
6,5,5,
6,6,5,
6,6,6,
7,6,6,
7,7,6,
7,7,7,
8,7,7,
8,8,7,
8,8,8,
9,8,8,
9,9,8,
9,9,9,
10,9,9,
10,10,9,
10,10,10,
leveling on 10

reset on new high
baccarat no zero .

speed


ego


I search for this post as find it very intressting ...
I been thinking to test this using Marigny and the law of series ...

When series chop with no singles present and you get 3.00 STD wich is not uncommon.
But it is very uncommon that you hit 3.00 STD where series chop being higher series only.

Singles has the value of 1
Series of two has the value of 0
Series of three has the value of 1

Does is that i would like to catch using the progression mention above.
So only when higher series are present and chop towards 3.00 STD would we recive draw-downs.

Series of four has the value of 2
Series of five has the value of 3
Series of six has the value of 4
Series of seven has the value of 5

And so on
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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