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One dozen sleeping for 25 spins on no zero wheel

Started by albalaha, Jul 08, 12:24 AM 2011

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albalaha

Hey Guys,
        This could be shocking for progression players and good for a few. That is why I say do not chase anything. From betvoyager no zero wheel real money:


vladir

Agree, we should not chase a particular event... but, what if it's possible to chase 2 particular events at the same time, mutually exclusive, and if one fails it means the other will (at least likely) be hitting more often? I don't have anything in mind, it's just me thinking... maybe this turns a ligth in someones head....
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

mr.ore

n=25
p=12/37
  z-score = (0-n*p)/sqrt(n*p*(1-p)) = -3.46


nothing extra special , but little nasty


with bot/sim you will see that far worse results are common


there is a "practical" limit for z-score, and that value is rougly -8.5, you will NEVER see anything worse with rng


or rather I would rather say "most probably"  ;D


mr.ore

Quote from: vladir on Aug 17, 09:25 AM 2011
Agree, we should not chase a particular event... but, what if it's possible to chase 2 particular events at the same time, mutually exclusive, and if one fails it means the other will (at least likely) be hitting more often? I don't have anything in mind, it's just me thinking... maybe this turns a ligth in someones head....

I have tried it, but the problem is that two subsystems have to "comunicate" and balance it's risk factor. Basically it fails on case where if you switch to one chance then game switch to the other and this repeats several times, making your system lose.

superman

QuoteBasically it fails on case where if you switch to one chance then game switch to the other and this repeats several times, making your system lose

Yes I have tried it too, the transition period is the difficult part, its the same as playing red/black with follow the last AND opposite to last, it works very well until the chop and terrible twos then it collapses.

I've been asked in the past by numerous players to create a bot to play for repeaters, it works for a long time until uniques start landing then it breaks so the decide to go for uniques, anything that hasn't hit after x spins, that too works for a while until repeaters arrive, so, then they decide to have both methods, with their thought being, when repeaters die out switch to uniques, again when you have seen the repeaters stop and switch to uniques, the damn repeaters start as you have no idea of the duration of each.

It's tough out there.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

mr.ore

What about tracking several patterns as a bet selection, and if z-score of "something" goes below some value several rows in a row, then bet next part in a hope that it will not continue and hits as expected (still negative)? If we could "know" that next session's z-score won't be lower than some value, we might dynamically compute progression based on the fact, that some "hits" are "sure".

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