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[TwoCatSam]

Okay,

I get the system and like it so far, but what about the green goblin  .

Let say:
1A2B
20*---------(bet doz 1-3 or skip and wait until the zero is gone in the tracking or skip the zero and wait for the next number in place for the zero).


Peauke

I certainly don't speak for John, but in systems like these I consider the zero a non-event unless it comes during the betting. 

Sam

[GLC]

I think that this progression  makes sense. Of course if we get an excellent strike rate here then we will be ahead no matter what progression we use.

True enough RBH.  No progression is going to be foolproof.  Each has it's own unique sequences of losses vs wins that will cause it to tank if the sequence lasts long enough.  Remember, Alberto was +1 flat betting.  Maybe the strike rate is good enough for flat betting.  That would be the safest way to play.

I was considering the gambler's ruin formula and was reminded once again that we can go bust if we don't have enough bankroll even if we have a small advantage instead of a small disadvantage.  That's why the casino always wins.  They never run out of money so they're still playing when their winning streak finally comes around.

With gambler's ruin in mind, we shouldn't try any system without adequate bankroll to withstand the  natural and expected ups and downs in a game like roulette.

The larger the bankroll, the better the chance that we will survive a downturn and come out on top.

I'm liking the idea of setting a stop loss of say 225 units and if we get down 150 units, drop back to where we were when at -75 units and see if we can recover the -75 units.  If we do, we can try to recover again for a full recovery.  If we don't make it the second time, we will have broken even when back to -150 and can try again. 

If we drop back to -150 on the 1st try at recovery, we will have lost our -225 units and will just have to reset and hope to recover starting at 1-1.  The grind will begin.

Just some bet progression thoughts.  If it's not a winning system, this progression won't make it one.

Remember, if we play slots we start out losing and then hope to hit a jackpot for a good win.  With this system we start out winning and hope to not hit a losing progression for quite a while.  There's always one waiting for us, unless we have the luck of Rielly.

Cheers,

GLC

[Rolletti]

I'm really wondering HOW JL can win 150 games without losing and me sitting down to lose my SECOND game. He must have a secret.

[prodec2]

hi , can someone explain the system to me ,


1 c 3 a

1 b 3 b

2 x            trigger for bet

what bet do i do , also , what is 2 non matches , are they vertical or horizontal , regards J

[Robeenhuut]

I'm really wondering HOW JL can win 150 games without losing and me sitting down to lose my SECOND game. He must have a secret.

Thats roulette my friend. You might go now 300/0. 

[Rolletti]

Record spins like you would for CODE 4 in a four wide matrix. Example below.

1,C,3,A

You start recording spins under the starting line as you would for a CODE 4 matrix until you have two consecutive non matches to the line directly above like the example below.

1,C,3,A           First reference pattern
1,B,3,B
2,                     This is your trigger for bet 1.

Classic three step progression 1,1,---3,3,---9,9. The bet is to complete a trilogy of non matches.

If one step is lost, continue tracking spins until the next qualifier, again two consecutive non matches to the line directly above, and then bet the next step of the progression.

There should always been at least one trilogy of non matches inside a 20 spin frame.

I  believe that this is stronger than trying to outlive a straight line because of how percentage works within that 20 spin frame.

1,C,3,B
3,A,2,A----WON BET ONE DOZEN 2
3,B,3,A
2,B,3,0
3,B,3,B
3,A,2,C----GAME COMPLETE  Record the entire 20 spins for records even if win/lose earlier in the frame. There were eventually two possible wins in that one spin frame. Only chase one win a frame.

[prodec2]

Cheers  , Will give it a go

[Johnlegend]

I'm really wondering HOW JL can win 150 games without losing and me sitting down to lose my SECOND game. He must have a secret.

Hi Rolleti the only thing I do differently that say Albertjonas's testing with blocked back to back sets of 20 spins didn't. Is if I play three consectutive games which is my maximum a test or session I'm using the last row of the previous game as my starting line on the new game.

I've seen two losses on my CODE 4 results over 400 games but they are singular Hit and Run style. But overall I believe 50/1 minumum should be achieveable longterm. That said I could never sit there and play 20 games in a row. Although I did on Friday for testing purposes. So even though I'm not pushing this as Hit and Run. It may yield a better result played in smaller batches.
Remember eventually random can break any pattern of realistic betting cycles. This is no different. This we know or should. But overall profit should be obtainable. And I really like GLCs money management idea. I have a few of my own I will elaborate on when I get back.


the 26 unit idea was just to get the ball rolling.

[Johnlegend]

Actually looking over Albertojonas test results from VLS he has made an error or misunderstood the testing parameters. Look below. At the section he thougt he found three consectuve losses in. There is always a lead off line that isnt part of the 20 spins as you have to always have a line above to oppose..

1,A,1,B----LEAD OFF LINE FROM PREVIOUS GAME
1,C,3,A----Column A is a winner.
2,B,3,A----Eventual winning streak of five non-matches.
3,C,3,C
3,A,1,C
2,A,1,C
Also the eventual total tally of non matches is the worst split ive yet found 11/9. Two extremes my testing have thrown up are. 11/9 to 18/2 Interesting?? I think so. And thats the reason for those who are asking why not bet for instead of against. WE DONT. You might have to wait 10/11/12/13/14 spins for a match. I have recorded 9 games of 16/4 to 18/2 in splits.

[Rolletti]

Thanks JL.

Any rules how to treat ZERO?

[Johnlegend]

Thanks JL.

Any rules how to treat ZERO?

Yes void it. And wait for a fresh two non matches. Interestingly enough the two losing games ive found from CODE 4 both had zeros in the mix. And poor splits of 11/9 and 12/8.

[albertojonas]

Actually looking over Albertojonas test results from VLS he has made an error or misunderstood the testing parameters. Look below. At the section he thougt he found three consectuve losses in. There is always a lead off line that isnt part of the 20 spins as you have to always have a line above to oppose..

1,A,1,B----LEAD OFF LINE FROM PREVIOUS GAME
1,C,3,A----Column A is a winner.
2,B,3,A----Eventual winning streak of five non-matches.
3,C,3,C
3,A,1,C
2,A,1,C
Also the eventual total tally of non matches is the worst split I've yet found 11/9. Two extremes my testing have thrown up are. 11/9 to 18/2 Interesting?? I think so. And that's the reason for those who are asking why not bet for instead of against. WE don't. You might have to wait 10/11/12/13/14 spins for a match. I have recorded 9 games of 16/4 to 18/2 in splits.

I will re do the sessions as per your recommendation, JL 


@GLC
As you know i am a big fan of your work and i like this progression to be tested also, as it seems very effective for the LW registry this bet gives. Provided we have the bankroll.


link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7859.msg71559#msg71559


Great stuff!

[TwoCatSam]

He must have a secret.


He does, indeed!

TwoCat

[6th-sense]

ok hows everyone doing testing this? at the moment iv,e doubled my bankroll ...I'm using this system plus using warriors hybrid system...as well as using warriors system using these rules also..altogether 3 systems on the go ..slow but very easy ...if i lose the 1st bet on 1 system i simply double the bet not triple on all systems ...same if i lose 2 or 3 in a row just going for a double win...I've posted a link on here to that kind of progression and at moment is working fantastic....




stake              spin result               running balance
2                        loss                      - 2
4                        loss                      -6
8                        loss                      -14
16                      loss                      -30
32                      loss                      -62
64                      loss                      -126
128                    win                       -62
128                    win                       +2

[albertojonas]

ok hows everyone doing testing this? at the moment iv,e doubled my bankroll ...I'm using this system plus using warriors hybrid system...as well as using warriors system using these rules also..altogether 3 systems on the go ..slow but very easy ...if i lose the 1st bet on 1 system i simply double the bet not triple on all systems ...same if i lose 2 or 3 in a row just going for a double win...I've posted a link on here to that kind of progression and at moment is working fantastic....




stake              spin result               running balance
2                        loss                      - 2
4                        loss                      -6
8                        loss                      -14
16                      loss                      -30
32                      loss                      -62
64                      loss                      -126
128                    win                       -62
128                    win                       +2

Are you serious?