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[donik7777]

Hello John!
How do you play hit and run?

[Johnlegend]

Hello Donik7777 hit and run in its purest form , means playing one game of a method then shutting it down, Come back a bit later or switch wheels, Most say it offers no advantage over continous play, But ive attained results using it that I couldnt when I played long sessions,

[TwoCatSam]

John

Not just you--but many--post a system.  I try to follow the rules they lay out.  The rules change.

Do I start over from spin one?  Then I have a whole new system!  If I don't start over, then I'm retrofitting the system.

Any person can say as they wish.  Double-blind studies will bear me out on this one.  When you start a test, you do not bastardize the rules along the way.  When the doctors decide on people weighing only 150 pounds or less, they don't toss in a few 200-pounders along the way.  In fact, they don't add any!!

Let's be scientific.

To you specifically:  You post a system that is the cat's meow and will win going away.  Now you say there's always room for improvement.  Consider this old Chinese proverb:  The man who chases two rabbits catches neither.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Hello Donik7777 hit and run in its purest form , means playing one game of a method then shutting it down, Come back a bit later or switch wheels, Most say it offers no advantage over continous play, But I've attained results using it that I couldnt when I played long sessions,

Donik7777

What hit and run does is try to out run the devil.  Can't do it.

H&Rers hope to play their game, make their money and leave before the wheel turns against them.  That part I have no problem with as you can bet if the wheel is going your way, it will turn on you.  Where I part company is they will never admit that the minute they sit down, the run from hell could start.  You simply cannot judge when the numbers are going to go against you.  I've explained this logically for years.

No one attacks the logic; they just attack me.

But, hey, try it!  There are harder ways to lose!

Sam

[Johnlegend]

Sam im sorry I dont DO everything to suit you, You have to let go of your stiff logical thinking, Because what im going to do over the coming months on Bayes RNG program will throw all known logical thinking out of the window, When you know you can beat this game, you can never take logic as applied to roulette seriously ever again,

[TwoCatSam]

John

It's not my stiff, logical thinking.  It is the way proper tests are conducted.  For anyone to take you seriously, you must use a valid testing method.

On the other forum, such a test is taking place.  Bombus is the provided or numbers.  He has a hash mark--whatever that is--to later prove he did not cheat. 

VLS proposed just such a program as Bayes is writing.  Must be nearly three years ago.  It was where any person could use it and there could be no cheating.  These are the things I believe in. 

Over the years, I have offered to meet people in the Dublin on-line casino and prove a system.  We can meet at spin x,xxx,xxx and begin there +5 spins.  I will win or lose and no one can say I fudged the numbers. 

But they will say the person watching was my friend and it's all fake.

VLS and now Bayes have the right idea.

I am so looking forward to this.

Sam

[Johnlegend]

 I agreed to do this test to show that roulette was never unbeatable, The mind of most players is simply not prepared for the game, The hunan factor I always talk of is the difference between a winner and a loser, How long you play the game, When to stop, Undstanding the virtual saturation point of your method,  A new way of thinking, Not being caught up in old habits and beliefs, That have hindered real progress from filtering down to more players,   

[donik7777]

John can you give results trilogy without hit-run?

[Robeenhuut]

Its getting ridiculous here.  So now we have 1 extra trigger  n yr strike rate improved dramatically  at least 4  80 games which is nothing 4 any testing standards ?  I guess u  r pretty desperate 2 improve yr system 2 act on any improvement suggestions.
Congrats  Donik  u made it much better system but still very susceptible.

[TwoCatSam]

Its getting ridiculous here.

That's because the rules should say.......do x y and z for N number of spins.

Don't tweak; don't modify; don't even pick your nose---just follow the rules.

Here's an idea:  change the rules every time the dog scratches!!  Man, that's random!!

Sam

[Johnlegend]

Its getting ridiculous here.

That's because the rules should say.......do x y and z for N number of spins.

Don't tweak; don't modify; don't even pick your nose---just follow the rules.

Here's an idea:  change the rules every time the dog scratches!!  Man, that's random!!

Sam

There are no set rules to winning at roulette Sam that's THE EXACT POINT. You morph and switch however many times its requires to enter profitville. Remember what I told you about your STIFF LOGICAL THINKING. This is the point in hand. Loosen up. Nobody beats this game when they think like you. NOBODY.

Well see how big I have to make the bankroll on Bayes game before some degree of respect is forthcoming even from the likes of you Sam. That's why I've agreed to do this. Because A, I know I CAN. And B, there will be no room left for excuses from the likes of you Sam. A large slice of humble pie awaits many on this forum.

[TwoCatSam]

You poor deranged man......

Respect is earned.  Not by obfuscation and bloviation.

We shall patiently wait for you to take Mr. Bayes program to the woodshed!

Sam

[Johnlegend]

You poor deranged man......

Respect is earned.  Not by obfuscation and bloviation.

We shall patiently wait for you to take Mr. Bayes program to the woodshed!

Sam

Yes you do that Sam. Like I said I call the shots here Im on the line. When I get the hard nosed math boys like you showing some respect. And admitting you didnt know it all. I will mellow out. And we will take a look at what you propose. Until that time. The status quo isnt for changing.

[TwoCatSam]

And we will take a look at what you propose

You will never take a look at what I propose as it is a fair test and you would run from a fair test like it was a pit bull.

Did this thought ever cross your jaded mind:  Sam could win big money with my system and he'd have tell everyone!

No it did not as you know the system will fail.

You're beat, John.  Admit it.  If you were in the ring, the ref would stop it.  Throw in the towel.  Know when to quit.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

I'm on the line.

You're not on the line.  You're too big a coward to even get close to the line.