Old idea with new twist - 56 session won 1 session lose - total 57 sessions ...

[Master_of_pockets]

Nice modification ego

[ego]

link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=2591&forum=Roulette_Archive

LOL look at The Old Roulette Contest

This method comes secound place hehehe

link:://starthere.mysteria.cz/VIPsystems/winalert_January18_2005.htm

[Blood Angel]

Hi,
If Ego mentions a method to try then I listen.
Just quickly tested for 5 sessions and my results were
+20
+31
+28
+2
+33
Nice and simple and the last one even won with just one number out.
Thanks

[Drazen]

My first session tested


Thanks ego


Cheers


Drazen

[flukey luke]

Did some more testing and came against this game.

13 =5.
34 =12.
19 =7.
19 =7.
15 =5.
34 =12.
7 =3.
1 =1.
26 =9.
12 =4.
11 =4.
11 =4. Missing 2,6,8,10,11.
29 =10. Missing 2,6,8,11.
3 =1.
35 =12.
1 =1.
1 =1.
36 =12.
34 =12.
27 =9.
26 =9.
10 =4.
17 =6. Play 17.
19 =7. -1.
28 =10. -2.
21 =7. -3.
5 =2. Play 5. -4.
9 =3. -6.
4 =2. Play 4. -8.
36 =12. -11.
18 =6. Play 18. -14.
21 =7. -18.
10 =4. -26.
35 =12. -34.
8 =3. -42.
15 =5. -50.
13 =5. -58.
30 =10. -70.
19 =7. -82.
20 =7. -94.
7 =3. -106.
36 =12. -118.
6 =2. Play 6. -130.
0 =0. -145.
35 =12. -160.

[flukey luke]

23 =8.
13 =5.
15 =5.
32 =11.
0 =0.
26 =9.
32 =11.
5 =2.
8 =3.
18 =6.
35 =12.
5 =2.
3 =1. Missing. 4,7,10.
10 =4. Missing 7,8,10.
29 =10. Missing 7,8.
10 =4. Missing 5,7,8.
24 =8. Missing 5,7.
8 =3. Missing 5,7,9.
6 =2. Missing 5,7,9,11.
22 =8.
20 =7. Play 20.
3 =1. -1.
23 =8. -2.
8 =3. -3.
26 =9. Play 26. -4.
18 =6. -6.
21 =7. Play 21. -8.
33 =11. Play 33. -11.
23 =8. -15.
4 =2. -23.
28 =10. -31.
27 =9. Play 27. -39.
11 =4. -49.
14 =5. -59.
29 =10. -74.
25 =9. Play 25. -89.
9 =3. -107.
1 =1. -125.
34 =12. -143.
17 =6. -161.
26 =9. Win. -71.
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[flukey luke]

So not to put a dampener on things, but it did go to -161 on the very next game as well before hitting a win. A drawdown of 320 in 2 games back to back would be rare I suppose but I found them. I don't think waiting for a losing game before playing would be very productive either. Not really sure what to make of it now. 

[flukey luke]

There has been some interesting methods posted over the last week from ego, vile and M_O_P. My personal opinion is that one of the reasons they can fail is because of the amount of spins involved in the games. You are allowing the variance to work against the method.

Experience and testing has shown me that you need to play quick games that last no more than a few spins. This then tends to keep variance at bay. It is possible to build into these mini-games characteristics that have a strong tendency to repeat themself over and over again. This then allows things not to get out of control like I have seen in the methods posted on here recently.

[Master_of_pockets]

"""Experience and testing has shown me that you need to play quick games that last no more than a few spins. This then tends to keep variance at bay. It is possible to build into these mini-games characteristics that have a strong tendency to repeat themself over and over again. This then allows things not to get out of control like I have seen in the methods posted on here recently."""

In other words HIT and RUN.(don t be shame to write it)
As all hit and run tests and playing continiusly tests showed there is NO def between them.
If a system can lose it will lose either hit and run either by playing continiusly.The amount of the spins are adding up no matter the the way u will chose to play.
Find and read the topic in GG about it(huge test that being made by playing hit and run and continiusly) and once and for all get out of this fallacy.

[flukey luke]

In other words HIT and RUN.(don't be shame to write it)

I never said HIT and RUN. You did!!

There is no sense in playing hit and run. Where are you running to and when is it safe to come back? 

I can play as many 'short' games in a day as I can handle but they are not hit and run. The characteristics you can build into short games allow the variance to stay low and things then have a habit of not getting out of hand as quickly. Think about it!!

[Drazen]

On that 1 loss how many spins did it take to eventually hit?

I just needed 14 steps, and it can go more that is sure


Dozen can sleep over 30 spins


Cheers

[Master_of_pockets]

"""The characteristics you can build into short games allow the variance to stay low"""

No it doesn t.....If the system can t win in long games then it can t win in short games either....because the short losing games will be added and u will still have the same....a long losing game!.... you said hit and run but u didn t realise it.
I know you for years and YES you have a solid knowledge in the game and I respect you. When u will realise what I just said you will be even superior.
So the summary of what i just said is :
'short' games will end up losing if the system can t recoup fast in a long situation game.
.

[vile]

I never said HIT and RUN. You did!!

There is no sense in playing hit and run. Where are you running to and when is it safe to come back? 

I can play as many 'short' games in a day as I can handle but they are not hit and run. The characteristics you can build into short games allow the variance to stay low and things then have a habit of not getting out of hand as quickly. Think about it!!

Well said FL,--I run fo coffe or toilet after some plus,then come back...and so about 8-12
times throughout night.

[mattymattz]

I must say I like this idea and am playing around with a variation of it as we speak.  I'll be sure to post if it shows any promise. 

Thanks to the original poster (ego i think)

MM