2 dozen commander bet

[Johnlegend]

Yes, I lost a lot because if you play a flat rate - two if you do progression -8. And again to start the swing (or pendulum) is a plus side is toward the minus. In the bad days of the deviation will ruin your whole pot.

If you play this for short burst quit when you have a profit whether its 1 unit or whatever. You will win longterm. I garauntee you. I could make profit with the original reverse version of this 2 OF A KIND. I once considered reversing it as there are never too many complete opposite pairs. But BW needs to push this before it gets away. Like a lot of good methods on the forum that have a week or two of interest and then drop.

This needs to remain at the top until enough people get it. As a fast paced roulette killer this will be top of the pile. Now lets see how many people realize it and stay with it. If you do. The rewards are certain.

[Robeenhuut]

Quick test on SMLive air ball.  Results: 36/6  Initially 21/6 n then 15 straight W's.
Another test: 20/1.  If u add both sessions: 56/7... U break even.    It can produce long winning streaks but double L's as well.
Few more sessions: 14/0, 14/0, 18/5 (1 double L), 16/6 (2 double L's).  Now u got into negative territory.  So question 4 JL: How looking at these stats u can guarantee it 2 be a long term winner?
I guess only one game a day because from yr stats u hardly ever lose first game in yr sessions.
U might be into something here because in my testing i never lost first game as well.

[buffalowizard]

Quick test on SMLive air ball.  Results: 36/6  Initially 21/6 n then 15 straight W's.
Another test: 20/1.  If u add both sessions: 56/7... U break even.    It can produce long winning streaks but double L's as well.
Few more sessions: 14/0, 14/0, 18/5 (1 double L), 16/6 (2 double L's).  Now u got into negative territory.  So question 4 JL: How looking at these stats You can guarantee it 2 be a long term winner?
I guess only one game a day because from yr stats u hardly ever lose first game in yr sessions.
You might be into something here because in my testing i never lost first game as well.

Hi robeenhunt

Thanks for giving this a go. A bit confused by your results: when you say 21/6 do you mean 21 wins and 6 single losses? And 18/5 would be +8 using Marty? Same with 14/0 do you mean 14 wins and no losses?
Cheers

[buffalowizard]

 Two more tests

WWLWWWLLWWWWLWLLWWWWLWWWLLWLW



LWWWLWLWLWWWWWWWWWWLWLLWLLLWLWLWW

My question is, is this any better than other double dozen bets?

Johnlegend,

I'm glad you are enthusiastic about this. If you could do some tests that would be great

[Robeenhuut]

Hi robeenhunt

Thanks for giving this a go. A bit confused by your results: when you say 21/6 do you mean 21 wins and 6 single losses? And 18/5 would be +8 using Marty? Same with 14/0 do you mean 14 wins and no losses?
Cheers

Hola BW

Yeah. 21/6 means 21W n 6L. 14/0 14W n 0L.  And i indicated double loses in sessions. I meant back 2 back loses.  1L indicates 1,1,3,3 lost progression. So 18/5 session means  18 wins of 1 n 5 loses of 8 units so total loss of 22u.

Regards

[buffalowizard]

Thanks for that rob

You say 56/7 is break even. Surely with wise MM this would mean a profit? Where you using 1,1 3,3 and then restarting that on a double loss?

If you look at my two tests a few posts above you will see that there are some double losses but with extended progression we'd have profit in both those samples

[Robeenhuut]

Thanks for that rob

You say 56/7 is break even. Surely with wise MM this would mean a profit? Where you using 1,1 3,3 and then restarting that on a double loss?

If you look at my two tests a few posts above you will see that there are some double losses but with extended progression we'd have profit in both those samples

I just used 1,1,3,3  standard 2 step progression.  And you might be right that with different MM and progression it might be a winner but  18/5 and 16/6  strike rate in 2 sessions gives u something 2 think about. Not sure if any progression could handle that. And d fact that there were 3 bk 2 bk loses.

[buffalowizard]

I just used 1,1,3,3  standard 2 step progression.  And you might be right that with different MM and progression it might be a winner but  18/5 and 16/6  strike rate in 2 sessions gives u something 2 think about. Not sure if any progression could handle that. And d fact that there were 3 bk 2 bk loses.

Ah ok I understand now. I still would argue that 18/5 ratio is good for two dozens. As long as the five losses don't come in a row!

By 3 back to back losses do you mean for example WWLLLLLLWW? Or WLLWLLWLL?

[Robeenhuut]

Ah ok I understand now. I still would argue that 18/5 ratio is good for two dozens. As long as the five losses don't come in a row!

By 3 back to back losses do you mean for example WWLLLLLLWW? Or WLLWLLWLL?

Back 2 back loss means LL. And by L i mean lost 2 step progression and W means won progression  either in 1st or 2nd step.  And i had 3 times LL which is back 2 back loss.  Sorry 4 confusion. 

[Johnlegend]

BW I know this kind of method works because I played over 2000 games of its cousin TWO OF A KIND. Now that beast when it gets on a run you will wonder when its going to lose. Ive had several winning streaks of 30 plus. The thing to gauge here is MM do we really need to risk 8 units a game? I Think the trick is to work out the hit rate for the first step of a game?

[Robeenhuut]

BW I know this kind of method works because I played over 2000 games of its cousin TWO OF A KIND. Now that beast when it gets on a run you will wonder when its going to lose. I've had several winning streaks of 30 plus. The thing to gauge here is MM do we really need to risk 8 units a game? I Think the trick is to work out the hit rate for the first step of a game?

So John what were yr stats?  Winning streaks r irrelevant if in 22 games You have 6 loses. And 1,2,3,3 sequence seems i guess rare 2 u.    So u suggest 2 play it flat just 4 one spin?  Half of my sessions lost big time using any progression.  As we speak on SMLive casino airball on d board we have 17,36,1,9,8,14,30,36. Do You know what it means?  B4 u endorse anything here do some testing first including yr own methods. And include also losing streaks when posting 

[buffalowizard]

Show me a 2 dozen system that doesn't bow to expectation? You'll always get groups of losses. This system is fast paced so you will confront them quicker than say matrix bets but also pick up wins quicker. It is all relative. MM is key because of you expect that run of 4,5or even 6 losses then at least you can be prepared for that event.
Trust me I wish there was a system that guarantees a maximum amount of losses but I'm yet to see it

[Robeenhuut]

Show me a 2 dozen system that doesn't bow to expectation? You'll always get groups of losses. This system is fast paced so you will confront them quicker than say matrix bets but also pick up wins quicker. It is all relative. MM is key because of you expect that run of 4,5or even 6 losses then at least you can be prepared for that event.
Trust me I wish there was a system that guarantees a maximum amount of losses but I'm yet to see it

Hola BW

All i know is that in my limited testing i had already 3 double losses and its very tough 2 recover from that betting on 2 dozens. Its a nature of 2/3 chances betting. It can be very streaky n u can run some wins n loses very quickly. And what kind of MM or progression do u have in mind?

Regards