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follow dozen with other progression

Started by Stepkevh, Jul 10, 03:09 PM 2012

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Stepkevh

@ tomla

thats what i thought also

i was even thinking by adding the colums to
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

xxlakis

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 09:51 AM 2012
and by sectors you mean ?  nrs. 1-4-7-10 for example ?


Yeap something like that.And try to be flexible.Play hot and cold sectors together trying to catch trends(if they exist).

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 09:46 AM 2012

its because i played on 1 dozen and had a 12l then a win and then 12l again, so it should go way over the original progression (26 steps or so)

I see, the dozen was cold, but why didn't you play follow the last like you instructed?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Stepkevh

Quote from: soggett on Jul 12, 10:23 AM 2012

I see, the dozen was cold, but why didn't you play follow the last like you instructed?

that's what i did, i followed the dozen till it hit on the 13th time and then it began to run again like an i-d-i-o-t till the 13th time, but till then my progression was already busted (needed 6 steps more)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 11:02 AM 2012
that's what i did, i followed the dozen till it hit on the 13th time and then it began to run again like an i-d-i-o-t till the 13th time, but till then my progression was already busted (needed 6 steps more)

oh, well thats bad...
but the progression is nice, maybe different bet selection?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

GLC

Here's a new twist on this progression.  Please note that it's still based on having to win 2 in a row after losing the 1st bet of a level.

We start each level with a bet amount that if we win, it will bring us to a new high bank.
If we lose, we will bet an amount such that if we win, we can bet the amount we won and if we win again, we will be at a new high bank balance.

If we lose the 1st bet in a level and win the 2nd bet in a level then lose the 3rd bet in that level, we will have won enough to bet the 2nd bet in that level again.

Our 1st level is unique in that if we win either bet, we will be up and can stay at level 1.

Here's an example:

       If lose      Bet amt           If win

1a   -1                1                  +2      Repeat if win
1b   -2                1                  +1       1a if win

2a   -4                2                  +2       1a if win
2b   -5                1                             3a if lose   2c if win
2c                      2                  +2       1a if win    2b if lose

3a   -8                3                  +1       1a if win
3b   -10              2                             4a if lose   3c if win
3c                      4                   +2      1a if win    3b if lose

4a   -16             6                   +1       1a if win
4b   -19             3                              5a if lose   4c if win
4c                     6                    +2      1a if win    4b if lose

                        10
                         5
                        10
                     
                        18
                         9
                        18

                        31
                        16
                        32

                        55
                        28
                        56

                        96
                        48
                        96

-501                 168
-587                   84
                        168

These last levels just follow the same pattern as the top levels.  As you can see, if you happened to lose each level, you would lose 587 units.  If you stop at the 8th level like the original post did, you will only be down 191 units.  A little savings.

The nice thing about this is that if you lose the 1st bet and then win the 2nd bet, you only bet on the 3rd bet what you won on the 2nd bet.  This saves the units for the 2nd bet in case you have to play it again. 

This means that if you win the 1st bet of a level, you recover fully.
If you win the 2nd bet of a level, the worst you can do is get to repeat the 2nd bet of that level until you lose the 2nd bet or win the 3rd bet also.

I know it's a little complicated, but with a little study, you should be able to follow what I'm suggesting.

Enjoy,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

BTW, I see no reason why this can't be used on Hybrid DC4 or any other double dozens system.  You just have to have 3 separate progressions.  1 for each dozen.

It'll tank every now and then.

So what's new?

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

soggett

Yes, this can be used for any bet selection
I just had a bust of the original progression, it went 19 losses and then 4 hits, but if I had been doing bet 1 dozen then 2 dozen  then 3 dozen it would have been +40 in about 80 spins
so we need a good bet selection
maybe betting on the 2 hotter dozens, each with its own progression?I don't know, will need to think about it a bit
GLC thanks, looks very good, lots of steps ;)
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Stepkevh

my second progression that i posted here works well on seperate dozens
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

okay, back again and again with some changes.
This time with betting on the 3 dozens AND colums, all with seperate progression.

This gave me 137u in 60 spins  ;D
Its holding very well this time and there's added an extra check to change from doz/col.
I used the line bet strategy from Atlantis, if the number that falls is BO/RE bet on 1/2 & A/B
and if its the opposite BE/RO bet on 2/3 & B/C.
Keep the bet freezed on the doz/col that is'nt played.

You will see in my excel file.
Any questions are welcome, but i think the sheet is clear enough  :D
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

jarabo002

Thanks Stepkevh ;)


It sounds very interesting.


A tracker would be desirable.
Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.

warrior

Try this progression with 2 PAIRS it under the testing threads.

Stepkevh

Quote from: jarabo002 on Jul 13, 11:00 AM 2012
Thanks Stepkevh ;)


It sounds very interesting.


A tracker would be desirable.


yep thats what i thought to but dont have the knowledge to make one.
i dont even know how to automate excel sheets  :(
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Ralph

If we want to bet all dozens in separate progressions, we can do it. Some casinos not let you, but we can do it. We have to use a clever way, and save chips if any zeros shows, or we are not allowed.

Some chips should be virtual, we play three dozens, but THE LOWEST NUMBER OF CHIPS on each dozens are virtual, as theycancel each other, no use to put them at the table anyhow.
Always no  "real" chips on one dozen.

Same goes for EC, if we bet  red and black in separate progressions, we use a lot of virtual chips.
Five on black and three on red, is the very same as two on black, and cheaper if it is zero on the wheel. We  need not so big bankroll either.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Stepkevh

test on bayes rng, positif.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

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