1-2-3-5 Positive Progression In A Negative Progression

[GLC]

Catalyst, Here's an answer I gave Deepred on a similar question.

Here's a progression that you may like or you may hate.
It's a let-it-ride for 3 streets.
We begin by betting 1 unit on 3 streets.  If we win we will have 9 units on the table.  We let-it-ride meaning we bet 3 units on each of 3 streets.  If we win the let-it-ride bet, we will have 36-9=27 units on the table.  Take them.
We just let it ride 1 time.
The progression is here:

3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-6-6-6-6-6-9-9-9-12-12-12 etc...
If you lose the above line, you will lose 120 units.


You can carry the bet line out as far as you wish.  Just calculate what you have to bet each time to fully recover any time you win 2 in a row.  The next bet would be 15 units or 5 units on 3 streets.  Multiply 15 X 9 = 135-120=+15 if you win 2 in a row.  You can do a 2nd 15X9=135.  Now you have to go to 18.  Etc...

Catalyst, If you want to play the above way betting on 9 inividual numbers instead of 3 streets, you will start your line with 9 instead of 3. So you bet 1 unit on 9 numbers.  If 1 of your numbers hits, you will win 27 units.  That's 36-9=27.  To let-it-ride 1 time you will bet 3 units on 9 numbers, that's your 27 units.  Now if one of the numbers hits it pays 108 units.  Since we only have 9 of our own units bet, we take them out of the equation and we have 108-9=+99 units.

Since we're only risking 9 units each time we bet at the 1 level, and we win 99 units, that gives us 11 attempts to win 2 in a row starting with nine 1 unit bets.  12 attempts if you don't mind breaking even if you win a let-it-ride on the 12th try.

You then have to go to 18 which is 2 units on 9 numbers.  A win and a let-it-ride here jumps the win amount up pretty high. Since we're dealing with 9 bet locations each time, the progression will climb pretty quickly.  But, some of the early wins at a new unit size will also be pretty hefty.

Hope that helps,

George

[Ralph]

We must know the chance of winning is not very big, but it will make the day if it hit.
The others round the table will not see the first bet, than they will pay attention, as you win or lose so much. I use to think of those who stake 50 dollar on horse race. You need to pick winning horses in 7 races, and many spend 50 dollar a week on it. The tax and other fees make a "housegde" of 30%. Should you do a similar parlay at a roulette table, most of them should think its a risky if not insane. They are not aware they parlay seven races. 7 horses right can give a lot, but often the favorits low odds make the winnings low. 1,5 x 2 x 3 x1.7....., if not you have little chance to hit them for a stake of 50 dollars.

The truth is a parlay on a roulette table has better odds. At a casino here its one zero and half back on EC if zero.

It you put the minimum at a  table which is here  around seven dollars on seven numbers, which means you  risk around 50 dollars. If you win the first round, you get  36 times 7 dollar, and you can put 28 on each number the second time(pocket a minor winning, and can not lose from now).. If win you have 1008. You now put 144 dollars on the 7 numbers. If you win, tip the dealer and walk home with over 5000 dollars. If you want to take a bigger risk and make more than the day, maybe your life, and have the stomach, switch to the high roller and do a final attempt. The table limit is 500 dollars, you pocket 1500 dollars and play the seven the last time. You walk home with either about 1500 dollars or  around 20000 dollars.
Look at the odds, small to get around 20000 dollars, but still possible. It is just 50 dollar we risk. and it is 7/37 we do not lose.
I hope I got the figures right, as I am very sleepy, late night, its morning, and I will sleep a few hours.

[Tomla021]

The more I test It the more I like this progression. George I would bet 1111111111222222=22units, If I lose it I start from beggining again and recoup

[GLC]

The more I test It the more I like this progression. George I would bet 1111111111222222=22units, If I lose it I start from beggining again and recoup

I like that progression, my friend.  Might even be able to bet $50 chips with that.

[catalyst]

Catalyst, If you want to play the above way betting on 9 inividual numbers instead of 3 streets, you will start your line with 9 instead of 3. So you bet 1 unit on 9 numbers.  If 1 of your numbers hits, you will win 27 units.  That's 36-9=27.  To let-it-ride 1 time you will bet 3 units on 9 numbers, that's your 27 units.  Now if one of the numbers hits it pays 108 units.  Since we only have 9 of our own units bet, we take them out of the equation and we have 108-9=+99 units.

Since we're only risking 9 units each time we bet at the 1 level, and we win 99 units, that gives us 11 attempts to win 2 in a row starting with nine 1 unit bets.  12 attempts if you don't mind breaking even if you win a let-it-ride on the 12th try.

You then have to go to 18 which is 2 units on 9 numbers.  A win and a let-it-ride here jumps the win amount up pretty high. Since we're dealing with 9 bet locations each time, the progression will climb pretty quickly.  But, some of the early wins at a new unit size will also be pretty hefty.

Hope that helps,

George

Dear George, thanks a lot. I am now trying to figure out how to match it with my bankroll and bet selection.

[GLC]

Here's another solid bet method that just hit a wall and came to a dead stop.

Go figure!

[RouletteGhost]

George id imagine there are many gold mines in this forum. People are quick to move onto the nexy

[nottophammer]

Rich bailey 86 (ghost)
how about adapting this 1,2,3,5 to your mid d/s

[RouletteGhost]

I will try it

I changed my alias so I cant be found by google searches

[GLC]

I will try it

I changed my alias so I cant be found by google searches

If 1-2-3-5 is too aggressive for you, you can always adjust to something like 1-2-3 or 1-2-2 or 1-1-2-2, or even 1-2-1.  Of course you'll have to change the progression line because it's based on the number of units you win if you win every bet in the positive side of the system.

If you decide to only do 1-2-2 for a total win of 5 units, your negative progression line will be:

If lose     Bet size         If win
-1           1                   +1
-2           1-1                +1
-3           1-2                +1
-4           1-2-1             +1
-5           1-2-2             +1
-7           2-4                +1
-9           2-4-2             +1
-11         2-4-4             +1
-14         3-6-3             +1
-17         3-6-5             +1
-21         4-8-6             +1
-25         5-10-7           +1
-31         6-12-8           +1
etc...

GLC 

[KoolKat]

Hi GLC

Would please explain your original 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8
Does the 1 mean 1-2-3-5
and the 2 mean 2-4-6-10
and so on.

An example would be great.
Many Thanks Koolkat

[GLC]

Hi GLC

Would please explain your original 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8
Does the 1 mean 1-2-3-5
and the 2 mean 2-4-6-10
and so on.

An example would be great.
Many Thanks Koolkat

I'm at work Koolkat but will give a short response.

Yes.  You're correct.  Since we win 11 times our starting number, we can lose 11 times starting with a 1 and then we have to adjust so that if we finish the 4 wins in a row, we'll fully recover all previously lost units.

Per my example, you don't have to always bet all 4 bets in the early stages because you can recover to +1 with less than 1-2-3-5.  For example if you have lost 4 attempts at 1 unit, the 5th attempt if you win 1-2-3, that puts you up by +2 so no need to place the 5 unit bet and risk losing 5 of the 6 you've already won.  You could actually bet 1-2-2 and still be up by +1 with a win on all 3 bets.  But it's your decision.

Also, please note that this is a disguised martingale so beware.

How do you know if something is a martingale?  If you fully recover all previous losses on a single win, it's a martingale type bet and succumbs to the same forces a basic martingale does in the long run.

GLC

[GLC]

Here's another quick variation on this progression that adds more safety to the bet.

If lose          Bets            If Win-always +1
-1                 1                 
-2                 1-1
-3                 1-1-1
-4                 1-1-2
-6                 2-2-1
-8 (+1)         2-2-3
-11               3-3-3
-14               3-3-6
-18 (+1)       4-4-7
-23 (+1)       5-5-9
-29               6-6-12
-37 (+2)       8-8-12
-47 (+2)       10-10-18
-59               12-12-24
-74               15-15-30
-93 (+1)       19-19-37
etc...

Note that the numbers in (  ) are what you win, or are still ahead, if you lose the 3rd bet.

[RouletteGhost]

I have a mental block on this one. I dont get it. I wish I did though lol