ROLLING SPLITS TWO UNCLES WAY-win as much as you want.

Ralph · Aug 16, 06:28 AM 2012

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Aug 16, 05:31 AM 2012

Suppose you could,but me no,as don't believe or trust on line gambling,as have a proof
that they all cheat...hash one way.Be carefull with this mafia.

Yes be careful. All casinos are not dishonest,(can be mafia anyhow). My problems is most the transfer services, they block the money, sometimes very long time, and demand a lot of proof of your identity.
They accept not to just send to the account the first money come from, they accept not all the papers you send. They can delay your money for years. I had problem for three years. At the time I got the money, the Euro was 30% lower to our currency.

I have missed some winnings due to limit for a day, did not read the terms, which you shall do carefully.

mik3z · Aug 19, 12:34 PM 2012

Hi guys. If anyone is interested I have coded this up in RX. It's a bit spaghetti but I'm sure it follows F_LAT's method...

From the tests that I've done it doesn't look that good but I was using RNG data as F_LAT said not to.

The program first gets the 18 splits virtually and then proceeds by betting 1 unit on the last set of splits that appeared and then the furthest if there is a loss, and alternates. It does this in cycles of 8 spins. Increases the unit size if the cycle lost; decreases if the cycle won; and stays the same if the wins and loses were equal.

Thanks for sharing F_LAT.

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system "Rolling Splits Two Uncles"

method "main"
begin
While Starting a New Session
begin
set flag "virtual mode" True
set flag "last or furthest" False // last = true / furthest = false
copy List [split(1-4),split(2-5),split(3-6),split(7-10),split(8-11),split(9-12),split(13-16),split(14-17),split(15-18),split(19-22),split(20-23),split(21-24),split(25-28),split(26-29),split(27-30),split(31-34),split(32-35),split(33-36)] to record "last split" layout
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40] to Record "unit size" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle wins" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle counter" Data
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

While on Each Spin
begin
Call "organize splits"
if Flag "virtual mode" False
begin
Call "check win"
Call "update cycle"
Call "place bets"
end
end

end

// ORGANIZES SPLITS THAT APPEAR
// "furthest splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "last splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "virtual mode" flag - set to false when bet selection is ready
method "organize splits"
begin
// check to see which split has been hit
If Split(1-4) hit 1
begin
Put 1 to Record "last split" Layout index
end
if Split(2-5) hit 1
begin
put 2 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(3-6) hit 1
begin
put 3 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(7-10) hit 1
begin
put 4 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(8-11) hit 1
begin
put 5 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(9-12) hit 1
begin
put 6 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(13-16) hit 1
begin
put 7 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(14-17) hit 1
begin
put 8 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(15-18) hit 1
begin
put 9 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(19-22) hit 1
begin
put 10 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(20-23) hit 1
begin
put 11 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(21-24) hit 1
begin
put 12 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(25-28) hit 1
begin
put 13 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(26-29) hit 1
begin
put 14 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(27-30) hit 1
begin
put 15 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(31-34) hit 1
begin
put 16 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(32-35) hit 1
begin
put 17 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(33-36) hit 1
begin
put 18 to Record "last split" layout index
end

// if the split hasn't been hit already, add it to the end
if Record "last split" Layout is not found in Record "split list" Layout
begin
Set Max Record "split list" Layout index
Add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
copy Record "last split" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
end
// if already in list find it, remove it and append it to the end
else
begin
put 0 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout = Record "last split" Layout
begin
add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
end
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "clear split" Layout index
set max to Record "split list" Layout index
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "last index" Layout index
clear Record "final splits" Layout
put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
if Record "split list" Layout index = Record "clear split" Layout index
begin

end
else
begin
copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
end
Put 100% Record "clear split" Layout index on Record "split list" Layout index
Copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout

put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
end

// to indicate the bet selection is ready
if Record "last index" Layout index = 18
begin
set flag "virtual mode" False

// make 2 layouts to place bets against
Put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
Put 10 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 18
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end

end

method "check win"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin

end
else
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" True
begin
set flag "last or furthest" False
end
else
begin
set flag "last or furthest" True
end
end
end

method "place bets"
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" False
begin
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
loop until Record "furthest splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
end
else
begin
put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
loop until Record "last splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end
end

method "update cycle"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
else
begin

end

if Record "cycle counter" Data index >= 8
begin
if Record "cycle wins" Data index > 4
begin
if Record "unit size" Data index not = 1
begin
subtract 1 from Record "unit size" Data index
end
end
if Record "cycle wins" Data index < 4
begin
add 1 to Record "unit size" Data index
end
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

Add 1 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
end

Robeenhuut · Aug 20, 03:31 AM 2012

Quote from: mik3z on Aug 19, 12:34 PM 2012
Hi guys. If anyone is interested I have coded this up in RX. It's a bit spaghetti but I'm sure it follows F_LAT's method...

From the tests that I've done it doesn't look that good but I was using RNG data as F_LAT said not to.

The program first gets the 18 splits virtually and then proceeds by betting 1 unit on the last set of splits that appeared and then the furthest if there is a loss, and alternates. It does this in cycles of 8 spins. Increases the unit size if the cycle lost; decreases if the cycle won; and stays the same if the wins and loses were equal.

Thanks for sharing F_LAT.

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system "Rolling Splits Two Uncles"

method "main"
begin
While Starting a New Session
begin
set flag "virtual mode" True
set flag "last or furthest" False // last = true / furthest = false
copy List [split(1-4),split(2-5),split(3-6),split(7-10),split(8-11),split(9-12),split(13-16),split(14-17),split(15-18),split(19-22),split(20-23),split(21-24),split(25-28),split(26-29),split(27-30),split(31-34),split(32-35),split(33-36)] to record "last split" layout
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40] to Record "unit size" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle wins" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "cycle counter" Data
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

While on Each Spin
begin
Call "organize splits"
if Flag "virtual mode" False
begin
Call "check win"
Call "update cycle"
Call "place bets"
end
end

end

// ORGANIZES SPLITS THAT APPEAR
// "furthest splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "last splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "virtual mode" flag - set to false when bet selection is ready
method "organize splits"
begin
// check to see which split has been hit
If Split(1-4) hit 1
begin
Put 1 to Record "last split" Layout index
end
if Split(2-5) hit 1
begin
put 2 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(3-6) hit 1
begin
put 3 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(7-10) hit 1
begin
put 4 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(8-11) hit 1
begin
put 5 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(9-12) hit 1
begin
put 6 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(13-16) hit 1
begin
put 7 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(14-17) hit 1
begin
put 8 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(15-18) hit 1
begin
put 9 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(19-22) hit 1
begin
put 10 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(20-23) hit 1
begin
put 11 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(21-24) hit 1
begin
put 12 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(25-28) hit 1
begin
put 13 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(26-29) hit 1
begin
put 14 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(27-30) hit 1
begin
put 15 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(31-34) hit 1
begin
put 16 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(32-35) hit 1
begin
put 17 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(33-36) hit 1
begin
put 18 to Record "last split" layout index
end

// if the split hasn't been hit already, add it to the end
if Record "last split" Layout is not found in Record "split list" Layout
begin
Set Max Record "split list" Layout index
Add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
copy Record "last split" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
end
// if already in list find it, remove it and append it to the end
else
begin
put 0 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout = Record "last split" Layout
begin
add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
end
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "clear split" Layout index
set max to Record "split list" Layout index
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "last index" Layout index
clear Record "final splits" Layout
put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
if Record "split list" Layout index = Record "clear split" Layout index
begin

end
else
begin
copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
end
Put 100% Record "clear split" Layout index on Record "split list" Layout index
Copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout

put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
end

// to indicate the bet selection is ready
if Record "last index" Layout index = 18
begin
set flag "virtual mode" False

// make 2 layouts to place bets against
Put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
Put 10 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 18
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end

end

method "check win"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin

end
else
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" True
begin
set flag "last or furthest" False
end
else
begin
set flag "last or furthest" True
end
end
end

method "place bets"
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" False
begin
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
loop until Record "furthest splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
end
else
begin
put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
loop until Record "last splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end
end

method "update cycle"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
else
begin

end

if Record "cycle counter" Data index >= 8
begin
if Record "cycle wins" Data index > 4
begin
if Record "unit size" Data index not = 1
begin
subtract 1 from Record "unit size" Data index
end
end
if Record "cycle wins" Data index < 4
begin
add 1 to Record "unit size" Data index
end
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

Add 1 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
end

Thanks for your work but there is something wrong in your file. First bet was after 120 spins.

F_LAT_INO · Aug 20, 04:55 AM 2012

And if you could program it on 350 spins short sessions then restart new 350 spins and so on.
To my way of testing it is how it should be done.The only and proper way.Anything else,brllions
of spins is science fiction and not reality.

---Thanks for your work,even thought I don't get anything......LOL

sniper · Aug 20, 07:57 AM 2012

Hello Mik3z,

Thank you very much for the RX code. F_LAT_INO, thanks for your system.

Quote The program first gets the 18 splits virtually and then proceeds by betting 1 unit on the last set of splits that appeared and then the furthest if there is a loss, and alternates. It does this in cycles of 8 spins. Increases the unit size if the cycle lost; decreases if the cycle won; and stays the same if the wins and loses were equal.

I believe the program starts after 9 splits virtually and not 18.

The betting is in cycle of 5 spins.

The system restart after 350 spins.

Could you please kindly modify the RX code.

Regards

sniper · Aug 20, 08:54 PM 2012

Hello Mik3z,

Could you please kindly modify the RX code so we can test the system further.

1) start betting after 9 splits virtually instead of 18.

2)bet in cycle of 5 spins instead of 8.

Thanks & Regards

Robeenhuut · Aug 22, 12:00 AM 2012

For testing purposes the file provided is ok. I made some changes so now 5 spin cycle with +1/-1 prog can be simulated. Starting after all 18 splits hit is no problem, it just provides a delayed starting point. I was not able to change it so the betting would start after 9 splits hit.
I downloaded some real sessions from Wiesbaden casino and the results were not so good. Actually first session had huge draw down and ended in a big loss. What kills your session are few losing sessions at higher level of betting. You can play with your progression and reduce your bet level by more than 1 unit as Flat suggested but it can only work in some situation like if you get a losing streak in the next cycle. That's my take on it and some people will disagree. Just do your testing if you like. Maybe smaller stop loss and win target would help or reducing the level of your progression....

system "Rolling Splits Two Uncles"

method "main"
begin
While Starting a New Session
begin
set flag "virtual mode" True
set flag "last or furthest" False // last = true / furthest = false
copy List [split(1-4),split(2-5),split(3-6),split(7-10),split(8-11),split(9-12),split(13-16),split(14-17),split(15-18),split(19-22),split(20-23),split(21-24),split(25-28),split(26-29),split(27-30),split(31-34),split(32-35),split(33-36)] to record "last split" layout
set list [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40] to Record "unit size" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5] to Record "cycle wins" Data
set list [1,2,3,4,5] to Record "cycle counter" Data
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

While on Each Spin
begin
Call "organize splits"
if Flag "virtual mode" False
begin
Call "check win"
Call "update cycle"
Call "place bets"
end
end

end

// ORGANIZES SPLITS THAT APPEAR
// "furthest splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "last splits" layout index 1 - 9
// "virtual mode" flag - set to false when bet selection is ready
method "organize splits"
begin
// check to see which split has been hit
If Split(1-4) hit 1
begin
Put 1 to Record "last split" Layout index
end
if Split(2-5) hit 1
begin
put 2 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(3-6) hit 1
begin
put 3 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(7-10) hit 1
begin
put 4 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(8-11) hit 1
begin
put 5 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(9-12) hit 1
begin
put 6 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(13-16) hit 1
begin
put 7 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(14-17) hit 1
begin
put 8 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(15-18) hit 1
begin
put 9 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(19-22) hit 1
begin
put 10 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(20-23) hit 1
begin
put 11 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(21-24) hit 1
begin
put 12 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(25-28) hit 1
begin
put 13 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(26-29) hit 1
begin
put 14 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(27-30) hit 1
begin
put 15 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(31-34) hit 1
begin
put 16 to Record "last split" layout index
end
If Split(32-35) hit 1
begin
put 17 to Record "last split" layout index
end
if Split(33-36) hit 1
begin
put 18 to Record "last split" layout index
end

// if the split hasn't been hit already, add it to the end
if Record "last split" Layout is not found in Record "split list" Layout
begin
Set Max Record "split list" Layout index
Add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
copy Record "last split" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
end
// if already in list find it, remove it and append it to the end
else
begin
put 0 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout = Record "last split" Layout
begin
add 1 Record "split list" Layout index
end
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "clear split" Layout index
set max to Record "split list" Layout index
put 100% Record "split list" Layout index on Record "last index" Layout index
clear Record "final splits" Layout
put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
if Record "split list" Layout index = Record "clear split" Layout index
begin

end
else
begin
copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
end
Put 100% Record "clear split" Layout index on Record "split list" Layout index
Copy Record "split list" Layout to Record "final splits" Layout

put 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Loop until Record "split list" Layout index > Record "last index" Layout index
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "split list" Layout
add 1 to Record "split list" Layout index
add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
end
end

// to indicate the bet selection is ready
if Record "last index" Layout index = 18
begin
set flag "virtual mode" False

// make 2 layouts to place bets against
Put 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
Put 10 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
Loop Until Record "final splits" Layout index > 18
begin
Copy Record "final splits" Layout to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "final splits" Layout index
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end

end

method "check win"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin

end
else
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" True
begin
set flag "last or furthest" False
end
else
begin
set flag "last or furthest" True
end
end
end

method "place bets"
begin
if Flag "last or furthest" False
begin
put 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
loop until Record "furthest splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "furthest splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "furthest splits" Layout index
end
end
else
begin
put 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
loop until Record "last splits" Layout index > 9
begin
Put 100% Record "unit size" Data to Record "last splits" Layout
Add 1 to Record "last splits" Layout index
end
end
end

method "update cycle"
begin
if Any Split Bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end
else
begin

end

if Record "cycle counter" Data index >= 5
begin
if Record "cycle wins" Data index > 2
begin
if Record "unit size" Data index not = 1
begin
subtract 1 from Record "unit size" Data index
end
end
if Record "cycle wins" Data index < 3
begin
add 1 to Record "unit size" Data index
end
put 0 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
put 0 to Record "cycle wins" Data index
end

Add 1 to Record "cycle counter" Data index
end

that's the code. I could not upload .dgt file here so just copy paste it.

sniper · Aug 22, 01:37 AM 2012

Hello Robeenhuut,

Thank you very much.

Regards

Robeenhuut · Aug 22, 03:13 AM 2012

I ran it through Rx using RNG numbers - yes i know but its much faster

with win goal of 100u and BR of around 1200u. I got 101 W's and 8 L's of BR. Due to a setup of waiting for all 18 splits that can take more than 100 spins i tested 400 spins sessions. One ended without reaching WG or busting out with around -200u balance. All but one losing sessions reached at least 50 or more units.
As i mentioned before i did quick test of few real casino sessions and they revealed similar patterns.

Drazen · Aug 22, 03:55 AM 2012

This RX file doesnt work right. In RX sometimes on winning split shows as lose and vice versa..

Also Robeenhut, results are not like mr. Flatino got in his 10 tested sessions. How come you didnt noticed that? lol

Cheers

Drazen

Robeenhuut · Aug 22, 04:00 AM 2012

Quote from: drazen_cro on Aug 22, 03:55 AM 2012
This RX file doesn't work right. In RX sometimes on winning split shows as lose and vice versa..

Also Robeenhut, results are not like mr. F_LAT_INO got in his 10 tested sessions. How come you didn't noticed that? LoL

Cheers

Drazen

I only checked a few lines and they looked ok to me. I will try to load these files and i noticed also by the way a few mistakes in Flat's files but they should not have mattered but if there is mistake in a betting line its a different story.

Actually because a betting only starts after all splits appear its impossible to compare them.

Regards

Drazen · Aug 22, 04:06 AM 2012

Dont run it fast. Go with "step" button one by one spin and you will see.

Cheers

Drazen

Robeenhuut · Aug 22, 04:36 AM 2012

Quote from: drazen_cro on Aug 22, 04:06 AM 2012
don't run it fast. Go with "step" button one by one spin and you will see.

Cheers

Drazen

You were right. I found it after quite few lines. Apparently there is a problem if you have repeat hits of the same split. A first one was a winner but next hit was a loss.

My apologies. Anybody can fix that?

News:

ROLLING SPLITS TWO UNCLES WAY-win as much as you want.

mik3z