Testing a method which may make law of the third useful

[Ralph]

We know there is a law of third.
I have been trying hard to use it, if it is possible
I still yet do not know.

Repeaters comes random and we never know when.
Betting a random number should have a probability of 1/37, and about 2/3 of hit in
a 37 cycle.

I use to bet on numbers just shown, this number will not be a sleeper
for the cycle, but will it have higher probability to hit again?
I do not think so, even if the selection has been successfull many times.

The test I am starting now, is to see, if it is possible to find the
most repeating numbers, regardless to the 37 cycles.

A back to back hit, of an number should have a slighter
over the average hit from frequent repeating number.

If a number repeats say 8 times in 100 spin, It
may show back to back more frequent than other numbers.
That's what I am going to test in real play, manual
at an on line casino. I do it real, as I know
from before, if I had got 1000 of fun tokens
the method may soon or later fail, and then
the tokens are better real if won. Of course
the chip value is 1 cent.

The probability of a number hit is 1/37
The probability of two number back to back is 1/37 as well.
It is 1/37 * 1/37 for a specific number, but for any
number it is 1/37.

The number before is a fact shown 100% and the
next number is the same for the last as for any number.
The numbers which will hit most, may then come
back to back more than other numbers.

The bet selection is bet the last shown, with 1 chip.
bet the last number with 1 chip 20 times (We can do it 35).
WE ALWAYS MOVE THE BET TO THE LAST SHOWN NUMBER!
If a hit we are on plus.

If not a hit in 20 (or 35 spins)
continue with 2 for the next 20 (or 35 spins)
We martingale until a hit.

Numbers can sleep for long time, but we try any
number shown, which should solve the long
sleeper problem.

Here is my first runs in the test.
I will try more, and if you try, please post the result.


22,11,28.17,17 hit  +31


13,8,14,8,24,16,20,28,27,2,21,8,34,24
2,29,36,21,29,5.

start 2x

35,30,4,36,22,16,28,10,19,21,22,12,6
33,31,23,14,15,14

start 4x

24,24  hit NH  108

start 1x


25,23,3,20,35,15,10,2,36,5,17,30,13,10,6
9,17,15,3

start 2x

3,28,28  hit NH  154

start 1x

23,11,17,18,0,31,6,2,29,16,17,30,28,35,14
32,0,12,26,15

start 2x

0,19,28,13,33,17,25,2,21,32,1,16,3,30,7,7

hit NH 173

start 1x

13,34,13,29,9,20,15,26,10,11,22,23,21,12,34,18
13,7,13,15

start 2x

25,11,14,33,0,34,27,32,8,18,19,28
,17,2,8,19,15,18,24,7


start 4x

5,7,8,9,0,22,7,20,17,12,16,15,7,35,8,35,8,35,23
3,8,22,21

start 10x (Should be 8, but easy to bet a 10 instead of 8 1)

5,5  hit  NH 373 units.

The bankroll  i have put aside for this test is 10000 units, the chip value is 0.01 Euro.

[Nickmsi]

Hello Ralph . . .

Testing this can be long and tedious work.

Attached is a tool that might make it easier.

This tool will show you how often you have to wait/1000 spins for a number to immediately repeat itself.

It will show you your maximum bankroll drawdown to achieve the win.

The progression level is a standard Martingale every 37 spins up to 300 maximum progression level.  You can change the amount to whatever you want in the Green Column X.

If you wish to input numbers directly either from another file and manually, I have attached a manual file to do so.

Hope this helps . . . Nick

[Ralph]

Thank You very much, I can test faster using a script, but when I test in real mode it takes time, but up to now I am winning.  It is sometimes so while testing 1000 of spin it works, and you bust first attempt in real mode.

This may be good to run in fun mode over a large number of spins, to get the rate of longest skips between double hits.

I  was just up to start coding a script, this method is just a few lines.

[Ralph]

Still winning, up 2000 units, lost the spin count. One real  deep hole, back over 4000 units before winning.

Picture show the hard run over 600 spins, were betting 500 units. Just one level to table limit.

[Ralph]

0.1 x 25
0.2 x 25
0.4 x 25
0.8 x 25
1.5 x 15
3.0 x 25
6.0 x 25
12.0 x 25
25.0 x 25
50.0 x 25
100.0 x25

Play against no double hit in  265 spins.
Has anybody  series from a real wheel or
RNG casino,lacking any double in 265 spins?

How frequent will it be?

[maestro]

@Ralph..check numbers 8,9,11,12,16,17,18,19,20,21,26,27,28,29,30,31 see how they repeat...

[Ralph]

All numbers repeate some sooner some later.

[maestro]

yes but the ones above cluster very good

[nottophammer]

Now how long ago this was last looked at, god knows.
But i like looking at old Ralph postings, also Flat-inos, top people 

Why do i keep looking thou, when what i now know from studying over the last years, i win, perhaps i'll find a little bit more to the puzzle.

So if i get this right, its a martingale, wooooooooooo

Now this is KTF sheet and you see it wins, but its the spins we're interested in.
The 24th shows only #34 at spin 54, so 20 spins at 1 unit, next 20 at 2 units and next 20 at 4 units, so previous 40 spins would used 60 units, and next 13 spins at 4unit =52, making a total of 112 for a return of 144, that was easy Ralph 

Well look at todays game 4 in the 60 spins.

Well be easy just to place as the spins go by, but needs to be looked at more, but Turbo/Denzie is taking my time

[bigmoney]

Hmm. Very interesting i will start looking at this

[romano0327]

I made some tests last night, around 500 spins, everything was good until it took like 140 for the last number to hit again, I was playing 20 spins and the increase with martingale, maybe we should take the loss after 60 spins and start over, I was ahead...

[romano0327]

I actually have a code that is very similar for RX, I can modify it and adapt it to what we are testing now, if anyone interested let me know.

[nottophammer]

Well Ralph is not around to answer,
But you had made a profit early, so why not stop. Like all methods/ideas the longer you stay in that stream of #'s, you'll get caught.

[romano0327]

Yeah but the idea is not to find a hit and run method, something that can be played as a longterm winning method...

[nottophammer]

Ok
but if you are taking 1st profit are you not winning long term and avoiding the RFH thats awaiting in the long run