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Is proper bet selection really necessary?

Started by Nimo, Jul 24, 06:54 PM 2018

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Nimo

Here is a run from 6 numbers that I literally pulled out of a hat.  2-8-19-22-28-34.

I decided I would start with a $500 bankroll and look to make a 50% return, the amount of spins didn't matter as long as I either got my return or I lost the bank. 

I took the numbers, put one unit on each and doubled the unit amount on a number each time it hit.  I got my result by spin 49. 

I don't have other charted amounts, but I have run this scenario many times on a roulette app and each time I reach my target.  Sometimes with 30 spins, sometimes within 90 spins.  I have run it past to see if keeps winning but progression bottoms out and negative balances come in.  $250 seems to be a good spot for this progression.  Haven't tried real money yet, just thought t was interesting that it always reached target on RNG.  Even tried it with 1-2-3-4-5-6 and it worked.

It's a repeater system, random numbers that repeat. 

If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Proofreaders2000

I believe the graph. 

Seriously what gambler will put serious money, say $25 or more
on a number w/o the confidence that comes with a proven strategy?

Nimo

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jul 24, 07:02 PM 2018
I believe the graph. 

Seriously what gambler will put serious money, say $25 or more
on a number w/o the confidence that comes with a proven strategy?

If the money talks, I'll play it.  There are certain things is sports betting that when I shared them, I got laughed at, these oddities that "pros" thought funny and odd have made me thousands and thousands of dollars while the "pros" went for proven results that gave them less than 5 percent returns.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Steve

You are forgetting THE most fundamental part of gambling...... payouts are less than the odds.

I don't get why its not being understood.

If you bet $1 on a coin toss and average a win 50% of the time, but are paid only $0.90, then the payout is unfair.

So HOW could you overcome it?? Voodoo? Or maybe win more often than 50%?? (Changing the odds)

"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Nimo

Quote from: Steve on Jul 24, 08:35 PM 2018
You are forgetting THE most fundamental part of gambling...... payouts are less than the odds.

I don't get why its not being understood.

If you bet $1 on a coin toss and average a win 50% of the time, but are paid only $0.90, then the payout is unfair.

So HOW could you overcome it?? Voodoo? Or maybe win more often than 50%?? (Changing the odds)

Using a $500 bankroll per day over 30 days would give me a $15000 risk.  If on 17 of those days I won my $250 and on 13 days I lost, then I would break even.  Based on what I have seen so far, I would have far exceeded the 17 wins out of 30. 

In my sports betting my average line is -123.  As most of my systems work on line favorites. That's a 23% house edge that I overcome day in and day out.  2.7% is workable too.  Rather than look on beating all of roulette you have to look at breaking it down to winning more than you lose.  A bunch of small system wins adds up more than you think.  If I make $1 profit on 10 different systems per day that's $3650 per year.  $10 $36500, $100 $365000.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Steve

Quote from: Nimo on Jul 25, 04:37 AM 2018Rather than look on beating all of roulette you have to look at breaking it down to winning more than you lose. 

Thats changing the odds. Maybe you are a closet ap.

Also i know nothing about your sports systems. If you win morethan you lose, keep going.
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Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Nimo

Quote from: Steve on Jul 25, 05:00 AM 2018Maybe you are a closet ap.


I don't have the proper holier than thou attitude so I dont think so.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

winkel

Quote from: Steve on Jul 24, 08:35 PM 2018
You are forgetting THE most fundamental part of gambling...... payouts are less than the odds.

I don't get why its not being understood.

If you bet $1 on a coin toss and average a win 50% of the time, but are paid only $0.90, then the payout is unfair.

So HOW could you overcome it?? Voodoo? Or maybe win more often than 50%?? (Changing the odds)

Steve you should start to work on new phrases, these are worn out.
There is always a game

nottophammer

Like the tittle says, is it.
Here is a small piece of data.


So if one was to recklessly bet the non-hit for 148 spins, i reckon there'd be a good chance of winning.



So betting non-hit is winning, Turbo got to be winning with those 17's

Wonder what the geezer sitting on the roundabout is going to say
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Now if you know on average that 29/30 non-hit average to hit by spin 60, are you going to bet for 4 more non-hit, that could take you to spin 148





I think not.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Steve

Quote from: Nimo on Jul 25, 08:11 AM 2018

I don't have the proper holier than thou attitude so I dont think so.

Don't confuse bad attitude with frustration with the lack of logic and intelligence of some people. Its exactly like trying to reason with a flat earther. They have a child-like understanding and think other people have the problem.

Quote from: winkel on Jul 25, 08:39 AM 2018Steve you should start to work on new phrases, these are worn out.

The truth isn't going to change. Take nottos repeated short term cherry picking results for example.
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winkel

Quote from: Steve on Jul 25, 01:34 PM 2018
... They have a child-like understanding and think other people have the problem.


Nice description of AP-People
There is always a game

Steve

You forgot to include statisticians, mathematicians, physicists, casino consultants etc. Not just aps.

Everyone "professional" is wrong, you are right. Not only that, but your "version" of math is correct.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

winkel

Quote from: Steve on Jul 25, 03:34 PM 2018
Everyone "professional" is wrong, you are right. Not only that, but your "version" of math is correct.

cmon Steve do you need that kind of posts.

I said "you are right" in everything you claim. I don´t change anything and don´t change math. There is no winkel-version of math. I just said I win despite of that all.

Do you need to make such false claims? You didn´t even argue. You didn´t proof me wrong. You just claim: It can´t be!
That is neither an argument nor a proof. It is just your opinion.
There is always a game

Steve

Winkel, ive tested theories like yours before. They dont work.

Is gut coded into roulette xtreme yet? Lets do some proper testing.

If it isnt coded, ill pay someone to code it. And if it doesnt work, you'll reimburse my expenses ok?
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

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