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Started by Johnlegend, Mar 29, 04:47 PM 2011

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strato1985

Convincing results

Its not even like the zones an others where you expect a loss here an there.. with this you just don't even worry abot it..

Do you think something like this could ever change the game??

moles40

Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 02, 09:05 AM 2011
STICK TO THE PLAN, Exactly. I recommend avoiding RNGs in dodgy offshore casinos. The established bookmakers like LADBROKES AND WILLIAM HILL, are the only ones Ill touch. Here are my results for 120 games played RNG and 60 games played LIVE.

RNG-LADBROKES PLAYED FIVE WIDE
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 120
TOTAL GAMES WON 120
STRIKERATE 100%
BALANCE 240 UNITS PLUS

PLAYED WITH TRIGGER
STEP 1 WINS 89
STEP 2 WINS 27
STEP 3 WINS 4

BETFREDS LIVE WHEEL THREE WIDE
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 60
TOTAL GAMES WON 60
STRIKERATE 100%
BALANCE 240 UNITS PLUS

PLAYED WITHOUT TRIGGER
STEP 1 WINS 43
STEP 2 WINS 14
STEP 3 WINS 3

True random struggles to form more than 2 of these FIVE POINTERS AT A TIME. I play for five wins per session both live and RNG then end the session. Next update double these numbers.




Excellent results!

Its the profit to loss ratio which defines if a system is any good, as long as you are continually winning more than you losing then you have the game beaten.

It will be interesting to see what the long term profit to loss ratio is for this system.If you can make anything over 200 points profit as an average win for this system before a loss then the casinos' are in big big trouble. ;D

However if you are averaging anything over 80-1 if your playing the 1,3,9,27 progression,then you have the game beat  just not at such a fast rate :)

How long do these 5 wins per session take on average.that's the only problem I see with this method.I know a lot of people wouldn't have the patience to play for hours and hours me included for just 5 points profit at the the end of the session. :yawn:

Maybe its best to play   this method with some other method at the same time to stop people getting bored whilst waiting to play.

GLC

Quote from: moles40 on Apr 02, 10:28 AM 2011
Excellent results!

How long do these 5 wins per session take on average.that's the only problem I see with this method.I know a lot of people wouldn't have the patience to play for hours and hours me included for just 5 points profit at the the end of the session. :yawn:

Maybe its best to play   this method with some other method at the same time to stop people getting bored whilst waiting to play.

My thoughts exactly Moles.  If you have a favorite system that you do pretty good with that doesn't take a lot of tracking so you can track for this one and when you have a betting opportunity you pull out the big unit bets, this could get pretty dangerous for the casinos.

Also, if this never loses, and I think it must every now and then, we could go to  this very aggressive type bet progression, 2-2; 8-8; 28-28; 100-100.  You would win 2 or 4 or 8 or 26 units depending on which stage you win at.  Of course you can adjust these to suit yourself.  It'll help build your bankroll a little quicker.  A loss would set you back proportionately, but you may never have a loss.  Might be worth considering.

George

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

ZigZag

Just doubled my bank  ;D

Thanks John and also to Twister for the 5 wide quad idea that keeps it rolling along nicely :thumbsup:

Johnlegend

Quote from: moles40 on Apr 02, 10:28 AM 2011
Excellent results!

Its the profit to loss ratio which defines if a system is any good, as long as you are continually winning more than you losing then you have the game beaten.

It will be interesting to see what the long term profit to loss ratio is for this system.If you can make anything over 200 points profit as an average win for this system before a loss then the casinos' are in big big trouble. ;D

However if you are averaging anything over 80-1 if your playing the 1,3,9,27 progression,then you have the game beat  just not at such a fast rate :)

How long do these 5 wins per session take on average.that's the only problem I see with this method.I know a lot of people wouldn't have Pthe patience to play for hours and hours me included for just 5 points profit at the the end of the session. :yawn:

Maybe its best to play   this method with some other method at the same time to stop people getting bored whilst waiting to play.
Moles40, I never just play one method at a time I play at least two. PATTERN BREAKER will compliment this one perfectly.

Trust me the strikerate for MATRIX 5 will be worth all the waiting. The idea is to increase the value each win brings you. I make 4 units ,per win LIVE. 2 units per win RNG. If you reach a level where you are making 10, 15 units a win it really becomes worthwhile.

IF YOU PLAYED THIS METHOD ONCE A DAY FOR THE NEXT 10 TEN YEARS AND NEVER LOST, WOULD YOU BE COMPLAINING? that's what you have to take onboard here. You are waiting for as close to a certain win as you may ever see.

So I will typically play MV 5, PATTERN BREAKER AND TEMPLATE 7 at the same time. You utilize your time efficiently, grow you BR. And go forward.

I was a newbie once, trial and error were my day to day experiences. To beat this game longterm you have to THINK LONGTERM. Not just today or tomorrow. I fully understand the frustration of waiting for small wins.

BUT THIS IS SHORT TERM, if you play even just two games a day. Every 40 days you will be doubling what you win. Start thinking in those terms. Because POST has made it clear how quickly you could be making serious money with this method. Show that patience and discipline. There will be no sweeter feeling than when you are winning more than your day job pays. But, its one step at a time.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 02, 11:47 AM 2011
Moles40, I never just play one method at a time I play at least two. PATTERN BREAKER will compliment this one perfectly.

Trust me the strikerate for MATRIX 5 will be worth all the waiting. The idea is to increase the value each win brings you. I make 4 units ,per win LIVE. 2 units per win RNG. If you reach a level where you are making 10, 15 units a win it really becomes worthwhile.

IF YOU PLAYED THIS METHOD ONCE A DAY FOR THE NEXT 10 TEN YEARS AND NEVER LOST, WOULD YOU BE COMPLAINING? that's what you have to take onboard here. You are waiting for as close to a certain win as you may ever see.

So I will typically play MV 5, PATTERN BREAKER AND TEMPLATE 7 at the same time. You utilize your time efficiently, grow you BR. And go forward.

I was a newbie once, trial and error were my day to day experiences. To beat this game longterm you have to THINK LONGTERM. Not just today or tomorrow. I fully understand the frustration of waiting for small wins.

BUT THIS IS SHORT TERM, if you play even just two games a day. Every 40 days you will be doubling what you win. Start thinking in those terms. Because POST has made it clear how quickly you could be making serious money with this method. Show that patience and discipline. There will be no sweeter feeling that when you are winning more than your day job pays. But, its one step at a time.


Twisteruk

Quote from: strato1985 on Apr 02, 08:38 AM 2011
Stick to the plan

Can I ask how many points a day you aim for twist? and how many you up so far?

From testing this myself only just recent i'm finding it hard to believe that the wheel will ever conform enough to beat it.. true master plan

I dont mate. I just win what the System allows me to win  :xd:

Im now up just over 100 Units  :thumbsup:

So ive doubled my Bank and have now doubled my Stakes  :twisted:

Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

I shud add I play 3x 4x 5x at the same time

3x is Quads to 5 pointers

4 and 5x is trips to Quads


I dont play with a Trigger as I play Live  :twisted: :xd:
Its Set In Stone =)

Proofreaders2000

I'm assuming everyone is just playing 1st, 2nd & 3rd Dozens.  Has anyone tried columns?

Twisteruk

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 02, 12:39 PM 2011
I'm assuming everyone is just playing 1st, 2nd & 3rd Dozens.  Has anyone tried columns?

I think someone posted they were


Prob needs testin  :twisted:
Its Set In Stone =)

StackBundles

i think cols defo act different to the dozens havent tried it yet

when playing 3 wide live play what has the most people have come across?

Twisteruk

Quote from: StackBundles on Apr 02, 12:45 PM 2011
I think cols definitely act different to the dozens haven't tried it yet

when playing 3 wide live play what has the most people have come across?

The most ive hit is two 5 pointers  ;D :xd:
Its Set In Stone =)

ZigZag

I always keep my eye on the columns with Ophis tracker. Columns is a different animal for sure and was busting Matrix30 for fun. Stay clear of coloums  :ooh:

Twisteruk

Quote from: ZigZag on Apr 02, 12:50 PM 2011
I always keep my eye on the columns with Ophis tracker. Columns is a different animal for sure and was busting Matrix30 for fun. Stay clear of coloums  :ooh:

Zig have you tried columns on a 3x bettin Quads not to become 5 pointers ?
Its Set In Stone =)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Twisteruk on Apr 02, 12:49 PM 2011
The most I've hit is two 5 pointers  ;D :xd:
SNAP! Random doesn't like forming too many of these I'm now 65/0 LIVE without ever needing a 4th step with NO TRIGGER

Columns may be a 2/1 chance on paper but there is a less stable performance from them overall in most methods I've tested. That said they may present the anwser for FASTER TURNOVER LIVE. Played with dozens THREE WIDE as Twister suggests sounds like a plan.

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