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Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

Started by warrior, Nov 09, 10:53 AM 2014

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warrior

Quote from: iggiv on Nov 28, 09:46 AM 2014
if people wanna go on with testing i have nothing against it. So far i saw some people saying that they were testing but i did not see WHAT EXACTLY they were testing. I don't mind if they do of course, but please then clarify what do u test how and when. As usual with testing.

And i don't mind if Warrior himself would clarify all this and tell what to test and how. But you can clearly see that it was not his intention from the beginning. His intention was to draw attention to himself to tell everybody that he "has something". Except of this everything has been very unclear.

That's how quite a few people were scammed a few years ago. First to draw their attention for long time to assure them that "there is something there", drive many crazy and drive attention for having fun with the whole story, then getting some money from those who  fell for it. Then disappear and appear under another nick and pretend to be a regular guy looking for roulette solution. Till the next time when all the previous story is forgotten.

I have been watching this guy for long time. But i did not pay attention at this thread first. Another mod did.


Hey iggiv why don't you go call your mother a scammer.
Who have I scammed
And why not go to Steve and ask how I returned his equipment if I were a scammer that would have not happen I build my name on trust ,you m o r on

iggiv

Easy with your language, Charlie. You know well who you scammed. I just don't want to come back to this old story again. There are no idiots around you as you thought before. No morons. And please stop registering new nicks to get yourself "support". As you did already before.

warrior

Quote from: iggiv on Nov 28, 10:22 AM 2014
Easy with your language, Charlie. You know well who you scammed. I just don't want to come back to this old story again. There are no idiots around you as you thought before. No morons. And please stop registering new nicks to get yourself "support". As you did already before.
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Don't call me Charlie  and don't call me a scammer .iggiv boy

warrior

Quote from: warrior on Nov 28, 10:30 AM 2014
Quote from: iggiv on Nov 28, 10:22 AM 2014
Easy with your language, Charlie. You know well who you scammed. I just don't want to come back to this old story again. There are no idiots around you as you thought before. No morons. And please stop registering new nicks to get yourself "support". As you did already before.
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Don't call me Charlie  and don't call me a scammer .iggiv boy

warrior

I remember you from way back  on the 3 million sight you never really had anthything solid back then and  now because I shared an idea you call me a scammer wow real grow up iggiv.

iggiv

Great. Cool that you admitted about 3million.  :thumbsup:

By the way it's my business what i have and what i don't. It's not your business. But whatever i have or i don't have --  i don't use it  against other people.

warrior

No need to ban iggiv just delete this account I will leave in peace.

warrior

Quote from: iggiv on Nov 28, 10:36 AM 2014
Great. Cool that you admitted about 3million.  :thumbsup:

By the way it's my business what i have and what i don't. It's not your business. But whatever i have or i don't have --  i don't use it  against other people.
why you go and ask Dave on vls how I am.he knows me better then you.

iggiv

if we talk about the idea to bet on a DS which hit a few times before and has 2 new numbers recently i tested it a couple of times and it won. But i reject this idea as consistently winning. Simply impossible. It's like with group of hot numbers. It may win for a while but then it goes down. Sorry, just my opinion. I am totally against betting according to the table layout. The wheel layout is a different story though.

psimoes

Quote from: falkor on Nov 28, 08:32 AM 2014
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I will move onto actually simulating bets to see:
1) Longest losing streak before hitting DS1
2) How often does playing max 3 DSs miss DS1 or even DS2

So, to begin with, I will only be simulating this till the first win, but most sets will contain between 3-10 wins.

For clarification, by DS1 and DS2 you're referring to the first and second Double Streets that show up or that you start betting on, right? If that's so, it's starting to make sense. It probably helps if you change the nomenclature to DSA and DSB so they don't get confused with the groups of numbers 1-6 and 7-12.
Your research is valuable, then. There's some file around with stats for one million spins or so that include the longest gaps and repetitions in all chances. It could save you a lot of work.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

falkor

Quote from: psimoes on Nov 28, 01:47 PM 2014
For clarification, by DS1 and DS2 you're referring to the first and second Double Streets that show up or that you start betting on, right? If that's so, it's starting to make sense. It probably helps if you change the nomenclature to DSA and DSB so they don't get confused with the groups of numbers 1-6 and 7-12.
Your research is valuable, then. There's some file around with stats for one million spins or so that include the longest gaps and repetitions in all chances. It could save you a lot of work.
Yeah, there could be confusion if people haven't been following the whole topic. There's up to 6 different DSs that we can select to bet (3-5 simultaneously; your choice based on bankroll) after they appear once (= opened) until 1-5 of them have hit again with a repeated number (= repeat) or new number (= closed). Those stats will not be geared towards this because we aren't betting all the DSs to begin with and we class repeating numbers and new numbers differently, but my spreadsheet already takes care of that.

Back to coding... I might be ready for the first run tonight, if not, tomorrow.

iggiv


Nickmsi

OK, as we say over here in USA, "It's time to put up or shut up".

Warrior is a Brick and Mortar Roulette player.  I am an On Line Bot player.  I have tested many of Warriors past systems as well as 100's of others.

In my opinion, this is one of the better attacks on random.  I like it because it is finite, it is cyclical, it starts with a repeat and ends with one.  You start betting for a repeat of every  line (DS) spun and stop betting when the 4th DS gets it's second repeat.

Here's the bet selection that I tested:

1.  Bet every DS spun.

2.  When a DS gets 2 hits, stop betting it.

3.  When you get 3 DS that have 2 or more hits, start betting the 3 remaining DS until one of them gets a 2nd hit.  End of Session.

The What to bet is actually not as important as how much to bet.  The progression and money management is the big key.

I have excel trackers for every numberset possible, ie, for even chances, dozens, columns, lines, streets etc.  I took one of my Line(DS) Trackers, "Between the Lines", and modified it with the above bet selection.

I tested it for 200,000 spins betting every spin except when you have 6 unique Lines appear, then I virtual bet for one spin.  I test in 5,000 spin sessions as that is how I would use a bot, 5,000 spins is about one nights work.

The results are attached.

Although this won every session, the progression needs to be improved to reduce the amount of drawdown. 

I have also attached my "Between the Lines" tracker so any and all can test with this bet selection.  The tracker only has a flat bet amount.  It does not win with flat betting.

It is up to each of you to determine your own  best progression. 

I for one, thank you Warrior for your insights.

Cheers

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

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Badgers reply 133  the warrior test  i make it £34.00 profit, with 8 units on 37th spin return 48 units.
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