Since october 2011, i played the Pattern Breaker from johnLegend in my casino near Paris. I waited one year to see if it was not only because i was lucky the first weeks.
I am going almost every afternoon. I played the 8th pattern against (see the first message of John in the Pattern Breaker file).
I have made an excel sheet, where i can write and see when it's time to bet as i follow the three even chances at the same time..
I play 50-100-200 euros with the objective to win 300 euros per day. It takes me around 2 hours per day (sometimes 3 like yesterday when the caino was busy ). When i arrive at 300, â,¬ even it's early i leave. I never increased my bets.
So i made around 6000 euros per month. For sure i lost sometimes but i don't really care, i am patient and i know they are going to reimburse me ,with the interest !
You understood that this message is to say that JohnLegend is a great man and i would advise all the friends of this forum to read again the first message of Pattern Breaker...
Take care,
Congrads Pilot,
Thats an awesome testimonial.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 08:49 AM 2012
...I play 50-100-200 euros with the objective to win 300 euros per day....So i made around 6000 euros per month. For sure i lost sometimes but i don't really care, i am patient and i know they are going to reimburse me ,with the interest!...
Hi thepilot,
Seems you are playing 6 games a day to get to 300 euros?
When the 50-100-200 progression looses, do you quit play for the day or do you continue playing up to the 6 games?
Regards
B 27
Holy f*ck....... I think I got my question answered about the EC strategy. Nice!!! ;D
Depend on the lenght of the game. There are always a minimum of six english roulettes in action as it is the first casino in France (single zero). I hate to spend more than 3 hours in the casino as i consider it like a work place....So if i lose before 2 hours i continue. I am never in a rush. In fact most of the time, i am seated, watching the "totems" and writing the patterns.
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 09:37 AM 2012
Depend on the length of the game. There are always a minimum of six English roulettes in action as it is the first casino in France (single zero). I hate to spend more than 3 hours in the casino as i consider it like a work place....So if i lose before 2 hours i continue. I am never in a rush. In fact most of the time, i am seated, watching the "totems" and writing the patterns.
Pilot I am happy for you. Man you have done much better than me.. I made about 12k in the last calendar year from PB. Well done. Patience can be rewarded as you have shown.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Nov 02, 09:46 AM 2012
Pilot I am happy for you. Man you have done much better than me.. I made about 12k in the last calendar year from PB. Well done. Patience can be rewarded as you have shown.
I feel it's easy to have some patience in a casino. Just watching the other players, it's like a theater for me...Thanks John
Message to The pilot, when u lose, do u up the progression and if so, to how much. :xd:
Quote from: Paul2012 on Nov 02, 10:04 AM 2012
Message to The pilot, when u lose, do u up the progression and if so, to how much. :xd:
As i said before Paul, i never go over 50-100-200
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 10:39 AM 2012
As i said before Paul, i never go over 50-100-200
awsome pilot...one question though...with how much BR u started.....
Quote from: ashwinsinha on Nov 02, 10:45 AM 2012
awsome pilot...one question though...with how much BR u started.....
2000 â,¬
Hello thepilot!
Thank you for sharing your awesome results! I feel inspired!
Might it be possible for you to share your stats with us?
How many losses did you have, were there any double losses or two losses in one day etc..
You never were in the minus?
Thanks again thepilot, one of the best posts ever!!
So you only play one method? Or are you playing other JL's method as well?
Here in Vegas we cannot even so much as bring our phone out of our pocket, but we can use paper and pen no problem.
VegasArick,
I edited the sentence that I had concerning the Iphone and excel sheet.
Thepilot mentioned that he writes in the excel sheet and the casino does not mind you writing things down, especially if you are not at the table.
It is not the system why the cat won . He has the proper bankroll and knows when to leave the casino.
Any good system , no matter by whom ,will bring the same results.This cat happens to favor this particular method and is comfortable with it.
In addition he practices D I S C I P L I N E !
The next chap might lose his shirt for obvious reasons which i won`t mention.
.
N.D.
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 09:52 AM 2012
Just watching the other players, it's like a theater for me
i guess i can relate to this one.
I spend an average of 5-6hrs everytime i visit the casino. my playing time is around 2-3hrs the rest is spend walking around watching the people play. i just enjoy it.
congrats pilot
The Pilot - Just a suggestion, as you say your healthy win was due to John Legends ideas, a nice gesture would be a gratuity to JL of say 10%.
After all judging by your betting MO you will continue to prosper well into the future.
I'll be starting to play a version of Pattern 4 (P4) from next week. Should I be similarly successful, as you have been, I will be offering my own gratuity to the main architects of P4.
Regards, Ausguy.
Quote from: Amazin on Nov 02, 11:26 AM 2012
So you only play one method? Or are you playing other JL's method as well?
I only play this one, that's my choice and you understand why...
Quote from: marvin on Nov 02, 12:21 PM 2012
i guess i can relate to this one.
I spend an average of 5-6hrs everytime i visit the casino. my playing time is around 2-3hrs the rest is spend walking around watching the people play. i just enjoy it.
congrats pilot
Totally agree, very interesting to see what you have to avoid
thepilot
Ive gone back in time readin that Thread lol
Can you confirm which version you play ?
If last Pattern is LLL do you play LLL or HHH ?
Thanx
Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 02, 01:26 PM 2012
thepilot
I've gone back in time readin that Thread LoL
Can you confirm which version you play ?
If last Pattern is LLL do you play LLL or HHH ?
thanks
I play against, that means HHH.
I just came back from the casino, very crowded because it's the all saints week end in France. Just won three pieces of 50 â,¬, because i had enough, all the tables were slow. I waited 42 balls for the first pattern OE, 51 for the second BR, and 68 for the third HL. And bye bye.
Don't want to sound to negative here but is one methode enough? I always believed to never put all your eggs in one basket. What you have won so far is a huge amount, has the casino said anything to you yet? Can you show a screenshot of your balance?
QuoteCan you show a screenshot of your balance?
It's in the title of the thread LoL, how can he show his balance from a B&M casino, don't they give you cash for the chips?
Or do you want to see his bank account statement
Quote from: Amazin on Nov 02, 02:00 PM 2012
Don't want to sound to negative here but is one methode enough? I always believed to never put all your eggs in one basket. What you have won so far is a huge amount, has the casino said anything to you yet? Can you show a screenshot of your balance?
Amazing,
According to the report by this punter he plays at a B & M casino. His bets are high enough and within the possibility of winning between 5-10 % is a smart move on his part. . So it does not matter too much if he walks out of the casino with 300 EUROS after having been 2-3 hours in this casino is no big deal to them.
Like i mentioned before he walks in with a proper bankroll not an " anemic" one.
I addition he appears to live close enough to this casino and has none of those high travel and lodging costs which easily could run much hgher than the 300 EURO of his stated winnings.
N.D.
Quote from: ausguy on Nov 02, 01:06 PM 2012
The Pilot - Just a suggestion, as you say your healthy win was due to John Legends ideas, a nice gesture would be a gratuity to JL of say 10%.
After all judging by your betting MO you will continue to prosper well into the future.
I'll be starting to play a version of Pattern 4 (P4) from next week. Should I be similarly successful, as you have been, I will be offering my own gratuity to the main architects of P4.
Regards, Ausguy.
Ausguy, Pilot earned it id never accept a penny from anyone. I do alright for myself. And despite my recent faltering on BV. Come December 31st there will be 50 euro in that account and phase 1 of the challenge completed. 2013 will represent the climb before your eyes that changes how many view this games invincibility for alltime. Although my focus of late has been on FIVE and 8 ON 1. PATTERN BREAKER, will forever be one of my bread and butter methods. I haven't used it a lot on BV yet. But its time is coming next year.
Thanks for your comments.
Yes i live at really 5 minutes by foot to the casino. My average stay is 2/3 hours in the afternoon. It's open untill 4 am, but for i never go at night, too busy. During the afternoon you have all the "systems people" like you and me, it's quieter and more adapted to my style of play.
I can tell you they know i am taking some money from them but they really and absolutely don't care. It's peanuts.It's the only casino in the Paris area and they have russian and saudi-arabian customers who will change 500.000 euros at the cashier when they arrive. I am a little drop in this ocean and it's good like this !
OK it will be all for tonight, I am not teaching anything, JohnLegend did it perfectly already.
Be patient, calm, and ready to.... hit and run !!!!
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 05:08 PM 2012
It's the only casino in the Paris area and they have russian and saudi-arabian customers who will change 500.000 euros at the cashier when they arrive. I am a little drop in this ocean and it's good like this !
Looks like you play here then :-
link:://:.cerclegaillon.net/ (link:://:.cerclegaillon.net/)
looking at what I could find it states only one French Roulette table ?
O0
@ddarko
i know cercle crion as i live in france
in this kind of club there were no roulette
in france you can only play roulette in thermal place
or near the beach
its the law here
in paris as pilot say
you can only play near paris at enghein les bains
Quote from: roulettefan on Nov 02, 06:37 PM 2012
@ddarko
i know cercle crion as i live in france
in this kind of club there were no roulette
in france you can only play roulette in thermal place
or near the beach
its the law here
in paris as pilot say
you can only play near paris at enghein les bains
@roulettefan
ok, fair enough, I was only going on what I found here :-
link:://:.casinocity.com/france/paris/ (link:://:.casinocity.com/france/paris/)
from what you have said they need to update their information then :P
O0
enghein les bains
Eighteen lesbians?
Wow!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 02, 11:26 PM 2012
enghein les bains
Eighteen lesbians?
Wow!
Lol!!!!!!!! only Sam could've posted that.
Thanks again pilot for showing what is possible.
Anybody who can step into a casino for 1 year (playing almost everyday) and show the profit that you have deserves merit..
According to my math you played about 2000 games, I estimate no more then +-100 losses?
It can be a good story and encouragement for some members here. I turned a 30 euro deposit into 250 euro this weekend. That is 700% profit. A 10,000 bankroll would have got me 70,000. I spoke to a casino manager last night and he told me they do not really care if someone win 30,000 or 50,000 if they are not cheating. Pilot is a clever man if he is taking it out piece by piece. I think probably a lot of this forum members do not win regularly at roulette and then it starts to become clear why there is some suspicions on here. That is just my take on things.
bob.
Thepilot, congratulations that's a great achivement in france, with a system using invalid principles. A new member with great claims.
One question.. Why are you using a softlayer proxy from the USA?
I'll have a better look at who is using what proxies on Monday sometime.. May I just suggest to everyone though to not be so quick to believe.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 03, 09:05 PM 2012
Thepilot, congratulations that's a great achivement in france, with a system using invalid principles. A new member with great claims.
One question.. Why are you using a softlayer proxy from the USA?
I'll have a better look at who is using what proxies on Monday sometime.. May I just suggest to everyone though to not be so quick to believe.
This comment just made my week.
Quote from: ugly bob on Nov 03, 08:47 PM 2012
It can be a good story and encouragement for some members here. I turned a 30 euro deposit into 250 euro this weekend. That is 700% profit. A 10,000 bankroll would have got me 70,000. I spoke to a casino manager last night and he told me they do not really care if someone win 30,000 or 50,000 if they are not cheating. Pilot is a clever man if he is taking it out piece by piece. I think probably a lot of this forum members do not win regularly at roulette and then it starts to become clear why there is some suspicions on here. That is just my take on things.
bob.
On the bright side maybe though his English was very good he meant to say that he was left with 70 grand ;D and we can only guess what his initial BR was. He mentioned seeing some high rollers playing with 0.5 M bankroll.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 03, 09:05 PM 2012
Thepilot, congratulations that's a great achivement in france, with a system using invalid principles. A new member with great claims.
One question.. Why are you using a softlayer proxy from the USA?
I'll have a better look at who is using what proxies on Monday sometime.. May I just suggest to everyone though to not be so quick to believe.
It's becoming to be funny dear Steve : i have a Boxpn on my computer system which authorized me to watch US tv from France in streaming, if you really check, 99.9 % of my messages are coming from the Paris suburb. You can suggest everything but please don't say i am a cheater. Thanks a lot
my support goes to pilot and JL :)
if the dude claims that he won $$$ then so be it, he is not asking for anything.
why cant we just be happy for him?
why dont we just drop a message like "good for you, it didn't work on me" instead of insulting the poster?
Respect.
by the way, i am not a fan of JL's method as its too boring for me.
Quote from: marvin on Nov 04, 05:52 AM 2012
my support goes to pilot and JL :)
if the dude claims that he won $$$ then so be it, he is not asking for anything.
why can't we just be happy for him?
why don't we just drop a message like "good for you, it didn't work on me" instead of insulting the poster?
Respect.
by the way, i am not a fan of JL's method as its too boring for me.
Thanks Marvin, i was not selling something, not defending anybody, just trying to give some hope
to the members of this forum.
Quote from: marvin on Nov 04, 05:52 AM 2012
why can't we just be happy for him?
because I'm English...LoL....Agincourt !!!
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 02, 01:32 PM 2012
I play against, that means HHH.
I just came back from the casino, very crowded because it's the all saints week end in France. Just won three pieces of 50 â,¬, because i had enough, all the tables were slow. I waited 42 balls for the first pattern OE, 51 for the second BR, and 68 for the third HL. And bye bye.
If you stay longer you play the same table, o move to another table for win next 3 unit ?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 04, 06:12 AM 2012
because I'm English...LoL....Agincourt !!!
Yeah
Shirlock or Henry V Turner ;D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 04, 08:09 AM 2012
Yeah
Shirlock or Henry V Turner ;D
oooohhh....Henry V everytime !!!! :thumbsup:
I'm happy for the pilot. I just hope he can buy his way out of that darn box!
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 04, 06:01 AM 2012
Thanks Marvin, i was not selling something, not defending anybody, just trying to give some hope
to the members of this forum.
"Give some HOPE to the forum." What do you think here is a congregation of downtrodden peasants? Are you a politician running for elective office ?
Matters are reaching the comical stage.
N.D.
P.S. Unsubstantiated claims are what they are unsubstantiated ,. .
Pilot
Can I ask how you played if one of the EC's lost ?
Did you increase ure stake on the remaining 2 EC's ?
Thanx
While you did use a proxy, your other IPs are as you said.
Understand it from my view... new member, proxy, big claim.. using a system that in my experience has no chance of working.
You say you are trying to give hope to people here. It should not be false hope or you do harm.
I don't know JL's systems, but I see RBRBRBRB everywhere in explanations. I also see talk of "you need to leave after winning". These are two major, major red flags for a system that doesn't work.
Simple facts, take or leave:
1. After any sequence of RBRBRBRBRBRBRBR or whatever, the odds of R or B next do not change. To test a system, test the working principle. In your case, you are looking for a specific events or group of events (RBRB or whatever) to follow another sequence of RRBRBR or whatever. If you find the "trigger" sequence before betting does not at all increase the accuracy of predictions, the system will not work long term.
2. If a system requires you to leave after a certain amount of winnings, this is not a system. People that think otherwise drive me nuts because the logic is backwards.
Consider this......
There are 10,000 individual players all playing a great system.... the system requires them to leave when they're up or after a short while of play. Let's say most win, and the results are:
9000: happy winners of $50 each, all convinced they have the method. Total won = $450,000, woohoo
1000 sore losers of $500 each. What bad luck... I mean the system "usually" wins, but these poor guys got a bad run of numbers. Total loss = $500,000
So the overall result was the casino earned $50,000.
There is talk on the other thread about whether or not you need a long term winning system to beat roulette consistently. Think about it..... to each of the individual players above, they play short term. But everyone combined is long term. Whether you are one of the lucky or unlucky guys is not up to you.
I strongly suggest rather than test systems over and over in their entirety, just test the working principle! For example, after RRRRRRRRRRRR is B more likely to spin next?
NO
Everyone needs to learn from the mistakes of others.
ThePilot, if you have legtimately won $80k or so, keep doing it. But I don't believe you are honest about this, and if you are, you would have either had extreme luck, or be playing with large bets and in the short term.
If you run some simulations betting just red, and play for 10,000 spins, sometimes you will have profited. Does this mean only betting red is a good system? . . .
Come on guys, look at the bigger picture.
If you learn from people more experienced than yourself, its like learning another life of lessons. A nice shortcut. I don't mean blindly believe others - too many people do that and don't think for themselves. I mean consider what others say and understand WHY they say it, then verify things for yourself.
The problem is someone explains something and why it is fact, many people don't UNDERSTAND it. that's why they play RBRBRBRBRBR etc..
For almost 20 years, sincerely I have been working with roulette nearly every day. And I have never, never come across a single person that has a system that legitimately wins (long term) with RBRBRBRB. There are winners and losers of every system. It doesnt mean the system is profitable.
There are real and valid working systems, but RBRBRBR is not it. Most people dont like the idea of advantage play like visual ballistics.... because you know, physics and all that "knowing where the ball will land" talk is all quackery.
That said then this Forum shud be closed down and the door locked and bolted as it is a Systems Forum...
Oh well, move on ppl nothing to see here :twisted:
Twister:
1. The truth is not always popular. I see a lot of players wasting their time, and occasionally I try to help, but most dont listen so I leave them alone. People can develop whatever systems they want.
2. Most people think "systems" are RBRBRBRBRB. My "system" uses physics principles. It is a few steps beyond traditional "advantage play". The analysis part of it is 100% mechanical. Why should a "system" be RBRBRB??
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 06:20 PM 2012
Twister:
1. The truth is not always popular. I see a lot of players wasting their time, and occasionally I try to help, but most don't listen so I leave them alone. People can develop whatever systems they want.
2. Most people think "systems" are RBRBRBRBRB. My "system" uses physics principles. It is a few steps beyond traditional "advantage play". The analysis part of it is 100% mechanical. Why should a "system" be RBRBRB??
Seriously, I always prefer the truth. Everyone here may be wasting their time but its their time to waste. People do develop Systems, thats what this Forum was built for.
Im sure ure right about your Systems. In fairness Ive watched ure Vids and yes you get results BUT imo in prime conditions. Ive been to Vegas Reno Atlantic City and ure phone sitting on top of the wheel imo just wudnt work "in the real world conditions" of a Casino. If it did you wud there now creaming Millions.
Im a great believer in each there own. You say that Pilot is a new Member ? He has been here longer than me.
Anyway we wont agree. I respect ure pov and lets leave it like that :thumbsup:
"I mean consider what others say and understand WHY they say it, then verify things for yourself"
For me thepilot showed what is possible. We all know the odds.
hi twisteruk, i just can not believe that You have 3000+ posts and still believe in hit and run.
by the way i don't try Steve RC but i know that phone not need to be on top of the wheel, it is just example in video.
QuoteIn fairness I've watched your Vids and yes you get results BUT in my opinion in prime conditions.
Realistically my system beats 1/3rd of wheels with reasonable edge. More than enough? The computers will beat roughly the same but be much quicker. When I say beat, I dont just mean accurate predictions - I mean practicality of application too.
QuoteI've been to Vegas Reno Atlantic City and your phone sitting on top of the wheel in my opinion just wouldn't work "in the real world conditions" of a Casino. If it did you would there now creaming Millions.
1. Why on earth do you think it needs to be sitting on the wheel?
2. I have too many responsibilities in Australia, and computer play is not legal here. So part of how I make my money is by giving the computers for free to partners overseas who pay me part of their winnings. What is better... doing it myself, or having lots of others who do it for me?
Anyway everyone is free to believe whatever they want, and develop whatever methods they want.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 05:57 PM 2012
While you did use a proxy, your other IPs are as you said.
Understand it from my view... new member, proxy, big claim.. using a system that in my experience has no chance of working.
You say you are trying to give hope to people here. It should not be false hope or you do harm.
I don't know JL's systems, but I see RBRBRBRB everywhere in explanations. I also see talk of "you need to leave after winning". These are two major, major red flags for a system that doesn't work.
Simple facts, take or leave:
1. After any sequence of RBRBRBRBRBRBRBR or whatever, the odds of R or B next do not change. To test a system, test the working principle. In your case, you are looking for a specific events or group of events (RBRB or whatever) to follow another sequence of RRBRBR or whatever. If you find the "trigger" sequence before betting does not at all increase the accuracy of predictions, the system will not work long term.
2. If a system requires you to leave after a certain amount of winnings, this is not a system. People that think otherwise drive me nuts because the logic is backwards.
Consider this......
There are 10,000 individual players all playing a great system.... the system requires them to leave when they're up or after a short while of play. Let's say most win, and the results are:
9000: happy winners of $50 each, all convinced they have the method. Total won = $450,000, woohoo
1000 sore losers of $500 each. What bad luck... I mean the system "usually" wins, but these poor guys got a bad run of numbers. Total loss = $500,000
So the overall result was the casino earned $50,000.
There is talk on the other thread about whether or not you need a long term winning system to beat roulette consistently. Think about it..... to each of the individual players above, they play short term. But everyone combined is long term. Whether you are one of the lucky or unlucky guys is not up to you.
I strongly suggest rather than test systems over and over in their entirety, just test the working principle! For example, after RRRRRRRRRRRR is B more likely to spin next?
NO
Everyone needs to learn from the mistakes of others.
ThePilot, if you have legtimately won $80k or so, keep doing it. But I don't believe you are honest about this, and if you are, you would have either had extreme luck, or be playing with large bets and in the short term.
If you run some simulations betting just red, and play for 10,000 spins, sometimes you will have profited. Does this mean only betting red is a good system? . . .
Come on guys, look at the bigger picture.
If you learn from people more experienced than yourself, its like learning another life of lessons. A nice shortcut. I don't mean blindly believe others - too many people do that and don't think for themselves. I mean consider what others say and understand WHY they say it, then verify things for yourself.
The problem is someone explains something and why it is fact, many people don't UNDERSTAND it. that's why they play RBRBRBRBRBR etc..
For almost 20 years, sincerely I have been working with roulette nearly every day. And I have never, never come across a single person that has a system that legitimately wins (long term) with RBRBRBRB. There are winners and losers of every system. It doesn't mean the system is profitable.
There are real and valid working systems, but RBRBRBR is not it. Most people don't like the idea of advantage play like visual ballistics.... because you know, physics and all that "knowing where the ball will land" talk is all quackery.
Could not agree more. Lets get example of a recent 8 on 1 offering by JL. I think that everybody agrees that each system fails in 1M spins. Turnover rate of 8 on 1 is around 1 game in around 100 spins so it would take 10000 games to go through 1M. JL and Twister went through combined 800+ games already. Lets assume that we have 10 players playing 1000 games each. Their combined balance at the end should be in the negative territory and they are expected to lose amount equal of HE multiplied by total of their bets. At no HE roulette there is tax on winnings to consider. In each game the amount of a bet ranges from 2 to 242 depending on which step of progression you finish so its difficult to estimate. The amount is not so important but if we take 2 steps on average on single 0 wheel its around 2000u. what's important is to illustrate the connection between larger and smaller sessions. We know that out of 10 players there will be at least one loser in 1000 games. Its possible that there won't be even single winner but there might be a few ones. Impossible to predict a possible breakdown.
You can not ignore the logic of it. ;D
Regards
Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 04, 02:51 PM 2012
Pilot
Can I ask how you played if one of the ECs lost ?
Did you increase your stake on the remaining 2 ECs ?
thanks
Bump for Pilot
Twister I think he just takes the loss and doesn't chase a recovery
Quote from: subby on Nov 05, 05:13 AM 2012
Twister I think he just takes the loss and doesn't chase a recovery
Yeah I thought as much but just wanted to be 100% :thumbsup:
@twister
i confirm this
he take the loss dont chase the recovery
progression 1,2,4
50 100 200
he say me he always recover his losses
Quote from: roulettefan on Nov 05, 07:11 AM 2012
@twister
i confirm this
he take the loss don't chase the recovery
progression 1,2,4
50 100 200
he say me he always recover his losses
Ok thanx for that :thumbsup:
Im playin 1,2 on the 2nd and 3rd outcome :twisted:
Are you doing a recovery for any losses twister?
your progression
is 1,2,2 mean that if you loose 3 in a raw you are down 1 unit minus 1
how many play you have done with pattern breaker?
what is your strike rate
do you confirm what subby say
10/11 win an 1 loose (7 unit) if you play 1,2,4
for you it will be
10/11 and a loss of 5 unit
Quote from: subby on Nov 05, 07:35 AM 2012
Are you doing a recovery for any losses twister?
Well I did consider it.
I only play 1,2 on the 2nd and 3rd outcome....so its only a 3unit loss. Im currently up 16units so No I wont use a recovery now ~ I will just take the loss :thumbsup:
roulettefan,
I play a 3 step progression, 1 unit, 2 units, 4 units stop - for a total loss of 7 units...if I lose.
Quote from: Twisteruk on Nov 05, 05:06 AM 2012
Bump for Pilot
No Twister i NEVER increase, if i loose one Ec that means i have 350 lost -100 win = 250 loss and i need 5 winners to recuperate. The discipline is to take the loss, be confident and continue. I never had 2 consecutive lost games in one year.
Take care
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 05, 08:23 AM 2012
No Twister i NEVER increase, if i lose one Ec that means i have 350 lost -100 win = 250 loss and i need 5 winners to recuperate. The discipline is to take the loss, be confident and continue. I never had 2 consecutive lost games in one year.
Take care
Nice one Pilot :thumbsup:
Pilot, just wondered if you cud answer one other query plz ?
Durin ure playing time how many times did you experience 2 or all 3 EC's Lose in one Session ?
Ive had one lose and the other 2 win but it wud be great to hear ure experience
Thnax
Respect to JohnLegend method and thepilot too. It is really amazing success.
I have play only a few games with this method and no loss came. This few games mean nothing, I know, but it worked and is working for thepilot and others.
Can you, JohnLegend or thepilot or anyone who has realistic idea about nature of this method, give some logic explanation on which base is this method working? Or is it just working only by itself?
It seems the win depends only on lucky chance (but to many wins for lucky chance).
thepilot: How long do you wait for the trigger (last no hit pattern)? I have play mostly about 1hr on live wheel till the trigger came.
Thanks guys.
Why those cats are winning is no mystery to me: Proper bankroll, short term play, Discipline , and knowing when to leave the casino or the table
If you "wanna win more " then bring more and don`t try to win a pot of gold with peanuts.
I am a short term player /winner and those two cats mean nothing special to me and I don`t bow loooooooow to them at all. Because that`s anyone`s obligation not to play like a jerk and drop money into the lap of the casinos attermpting to outsmart them..
Winning is soooooo easy and retaining the winnings if you know how. But thgat` s another story.
Nathan Detroit
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lol...Ive seen all this on "Real Hustle"...the stooges but one open the box and the XBox360 is there...I buy one and when i get home, my box has a brick in it.
Jesus wept!
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 05, 08:23 AM 2012
No Twister i NEVER increase, if i lose one Ec that means i have 350 lost -100 win = 250 loss and i need 5 winners to recuperate. The discipline is to take the loss, be confident and continue. I never had 2 consecutive lost games in one year.
Take care
So playing with 50 euros base bet you won around 2000 games and lost 70 games meaning that you only lost once in 30 games on average? Is this correct? Do you remember your longest winning streak? Did you go maybe 100 games without a loss?
Regards
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Nov 06, 03:04 AM 2012
So playing with 50 euros base bet you won around 2000 games and lost 70 games meaning that you only lost once in 30 games on average? Is this correct? Do you remember your longest winning streak? Did you go maybe 100 games without a loss?
Regards
I lost 2 times in 3 days in july, that means 14 pieces lost.
I think in september 2012 i had a wiining strike everyday except the 30th...
Anyway, i take advantage of this message to tell you it will be my last on this forum. It's too bad but i didn't appreciate some of the critics and i don't see why i should continue.
I sincerely wish you and all the nice forum members lots of luck.
Anyway, i take advantage of this message to tell you it will be my last on this forum. ...thepilot
LoL...well your works done isnt it.
Quote from: Turner on Nov 06, 07:50 AM 2012
LoL...well your works done isnt it.
Looks like your works done too. Btw, are you Turnfeck?
Quote from: Still on Nov 06, 08:05 AM 2012
Looks like your works done too. by the way, are you Turnfeck?
Guilty
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 06, 07:14 AM 2012
Anyway, i take advantage of this message to tell you it will be my last on this forum.
@Pilot- Are you just going to lie down to the naysayers and walk away? Damn!!
bob.
An observation:
Some posts about winnings sound like as if the authors are either liars or politicians. Take your pick itis 50/50.
N.D.
Sometimes things are hard to believe!
I have not been here if I did not get extremely lucky and won much.
After correct the system (M7) I got more than I ever could believe.
I got 3000 Euro from 500. I decide loose or win, you never win if you are afraid.
That I mention in my post before.
My methods were classic, a brave attitude, prepared to lose.
Ending up in a million in our currency(about 200000 Euro).
I have been much more carefully after that, take smaller risks, and not bet high, because I think, you are lucky, but not forevet.
you never win if you are afraid.
How true!!
Thanks, Ralph
Sam
i don't think Pilot is lying. Though it's possible of course.
I personally don't trust the table layout. But JL and Skakus proved that even the table can be beaten. So it's quite possible that Pilot is saying the truth.
there are also some other things that make me think that he did not come to lie here.
Quote from: Tamino on Nov 06, 09:01 AM 2012
An observation:
Some posts about winnings sound like as if the authors are either liars or politicians. Take your pick itis 50/50.
N.D.
You say what I was thinking 50/50 will do for the moment...........
Cheers
John Rotterdam
Quote from: Tamino on Nov 06, 09:01 AM 2012
An observation:
Some posts about winnings sound like as if the authors are either liars or politicians. Take your pick itis 50/50.
N.D.
I was thinking the same thing about many of your winner bragging posts. :wink:
Quote from: Skakus on Nov 06, 03:00 PM 2012
I was thinking the same thing about many of your winner bragging posts. :wink:
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You mean when I am stating my " attempt " to win 2 out of 3 sessions ? Not a cake walk in either. Easier said than done.
N.D.
Two questions for pilot or anyone who uses JL's systems:
1. Is it a requirement you play only short term or after a specific win goal?
2. How is coming back after 5 minutes different from coming back after a day or so?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 05, 06:23 PM 2012
LoL...I've seen all this on "Real Hustle"...the stooges but one open the box and the XBox360 is there...I buy one and when i get home, my box has a brick in it.
Jesus wept!
its your satanic post! look at the post number: 666 (triple six). :twisted: :twisted:
Quote from: thepilot on Nov 06, 07:14 AM 2012
I lost 2 times in 3 days in july, that means 14 pieces lost.
I think in september 2012 i had a wiining strike everyday except the 30th...
Anyway, i take advantage of this message to tell you it will be my last on this forum. It's too bad but i didn't appreciate some of the critics and i don't see why i should continue.
I sincerely wish you and all the nice forum members lots of luck.
I dont think it would be possible to match your luck though because in one month you lost only once in around 180 games ( you played 6 games a day ) ;D and if you lost 2 times in 3 days you would still make a profit.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 06, 04:13 PM 2012
Two questions for pilot or anyone who uses JL's systems:
1. Is it a requirement you play only short term or after a specific win goal?
2. How is coming back after 5 minutes different from coming back after a day or so?
I have been playing this system and have been having good results so far !
Playing H/L I have now played 69 games and lost 2 games.
I
TOTALLY beleive in hit and run, i play one session and then log off for about half an hour, and then play again.
Yes im a newbie,
NO im not JL, but i am just explaining my results on this subject.
Hello Steve and all ( hopefully still thepilot as well :) )
Thought I would jump on the hit and run merry go round again.
I look at it as a dart board. Say you have a method that loses 10 times per day statistically. In 24 hours there are +- 900 spins on a wheel. So our dart board has 900 sections and each day the 10 losing sections are moved around. Throwing blindly at this board a few times per day could allow us to skip those losses for a long enough time to gain profit longterm. Longterm is also a relative term. If I make 100,000 in two or three years I retire from the game and invest in something else.........
Either way, I don't think all players will be successful playing hit and run, perhaps 70%. This is why several BRs are important and distributing your winnings over those BR's will allow the majority to gain profit and keep you ahead. Using several different methods each having there own BR should be effective as well.
Throwing blindly at this board a few times per day could allow us to skip those losses for a long enough time to gain profit longterm.
If I get you, you're saying that to land on the spin that starts your down fall, the chances are 900-10 or 90-1 against that happening. Right?
AMK
Geez, this stuff sounds realistic and logical. Maybe when Matt, the scarecrow, the tin man and the cowardly lion return from Oz, we will know the answer.
Sam
Lets us not forget thepilot 2Cat....
He dared to venture down the yellow brick road..........
Quote from: amk on Nov 07, 12:53 PM 2012
Hello Steve and all ( hopefully still thepilot as well )
Thought I would jump on the hit and run merry go round again.
I look at it as a dart board. Say you have a method that loses 10 times per day statistically. In 24 hours there are +- 900 spins on a wheel. So our dart board has 900 sections and each day the 10 losing sections are moved around. Throwing blindly at this board a few times per day could allow us to skip those losses for a long enough time to gain profit longterm. Longterm is also a relative term. If I make 100,000 in two or three years I retire from the game and invest in something else.........
Either way, I don't think all players will be successful playing hit and run, perhaps 70%. This is why several BRs are important and distributing your winnings over those BR's will allow the majority to gain profit and keep you ahead. Using several different methods each having there own BR should be effective as well.
Sorry, this is all wrong.
Your dart board sectors should be session based not spin based, so your dart board should have much less than 900 sectors. Also because of the house edge and the unfair payouts the losing sectors should be much wider than the winning sectors. Now throw your darts.
Seriously, hit and run is a good comfort zone measure so has a place in the overall scheme of things, but I doubt it will improve any betting statistics over the long run.
Hello Skakus!
That was just my take on it. Enough people are having success.
I think the final call is when you actually try a hit and run strategy.
thepilot did.
Quote from: Skakus on Nov 07, 05:49 PM 2012
Seriously, hit and run is a good comfort zone measure so has a place in the overall scheme of things, but I doubt it will improve any betting statistics over the long run.
in other words hit and run will not improve nothing on long run.
The long run is "relative" speed, no pun intended, just a theory :)
when we talk hit-n-run, we talk of different things. Speed for example talks EC, i don't care what and how happens in EC. It is not a real roulette -- EC. Real roulette is where the ball falls on roulette wheel. Different events happening on the wheel. It is impossible to catch one event on the wheel and avoid another continously (unless u use Advantage-play methods like Steve does). but it is possible to do it from time to time. As simple as that. That's what hit-n-run is about for me.
The point here is not the size of Pilot winnings. He played with 50 euro base bet. But having just one loss in 180 games playing 1-2-4 Marty. Just calculate the odds. I got few thousands millions to 1. So im very reluctant to give him benefit of the doubt ;D
Quote from: Steve on Nov 04, 05:57 PM 2012
While you did use a proxy, your other IPs are as you said.
Understand it from my view... new member, proxy, big claim.. using a system that in my experience has no chance of working.
You say you are trying to give hope to people here. It should not be false hope or you do harm.
I don't know JL's systems, but I see RBRBRBRB everywhere in explanations. I also see talk of "you need to leave after winning". These are two major, major red flags for a system that doesn't work.
Simple facts, take or leave:
1. After any sequence of RBRBRBRBRBRBRBR or whatever, the odds of R or B next do not change. To test a system, test the working principle. In your case, you are looking for a specific events or group of events (RBRB or whatever) to follow another sequence of RRBRBR or whatever. If you find the "trigger" sequence before betting does not at all increase the accuracy of predictions, the system will not work long term.
2. If a system requires you to leave after a certain amount of winnings, this is not a system. People that think otherwise drive me nuts because the logic is backwards.
Consider this......
There are 10,000 individual players all playing a great system.... the system requires them to leave when they're up or after a short while of play. Let's say most win, and the results are:
9000: happy winners of $50 each, all convinced they have the method. Total won = $450,000, woohoo
1000 sore losers of $500 each. What bad luck... I mean the system "usually" wins, but these poor guys got a bad run of numbers. Total loss = $500,000
So the overall result was the casino earned $50,000.
There is talk on the other thread about whether or not you need a long term winning system to beat roulette consistently. Think about it..... to each of the individual players above, they play short term. But everyone combined is long term. Whether you are one of the lucky or unlucky guys is not up to you.
I strongly suggest rather than test systems over and over in their entirety, just test the working principle! For example, after RRRRRRRRRRRR is B more likely to spin next?
NO
Everyone needs to learn from the mistakes of others.
ThePilot, if you have legtimately won $80k or so, keep doing it. But I don't believe you are honest about this, and if you are, you would have either had extreme luck, or be playing with large bets and in the short term.
If you run some simulations betting just red, and play for 10,000 spins, sometimes you will have profited. Does this mean only betting red is a good system? . . .
Come on guys, look at the bigger picture.
If you learn from people more experienced than yourself, its like learning another life of lessons. A nice shortcut. I don't mean blindly believe others - too many people do that and don't think for themselves. I mean consider what others say and understand WHY they say it, then verify things for yourself.
The problem is someone explains something and why it is fact, many people don't UNDERSTAND it. that's why they play RBRBRBRBRBR etc..
For almost 20 years, sincerely I have been working with roulette nearly every day. And I have never, never come across a single person that has a system that legitimately wins (long term) with RBRBRBRB. There are winners and losers of every system. It doesn't mean the system is profitable.
There are real and valid working systems, but RBRBRBR is not it. Most people don't like the idea of advantage play like visual ballistics.... because you know, physics and all that "knowing where the ball will land" talk is all quackery.
Steve there are people who have been playing this game forever who don't believe its for the taking, or know how to beat it. That doesn't mean IT CANNOT BE BEATEN.
Now I understand where you are coming from with your jaded point of view. But your argument for the 10,000 players doesn't stand up. For a start if you had 9,000 successful players of a method. There will be many Pilots among them. Its not a cut and dried level breakdown.
In the same sense that the 1,000 supposed losers will not all lose a set sum of 500 sterling in whatever currency..Especially if they are playing a method like PATTERN BREAKER. The thing is this. If I could find 10,000 players to play PATTERN BREAKER to the letter. And everyone of them started out with 500 points. Risking only a fraction of that on a game. A serious dent would be made in the industry. LONGTERM.
But what you have to keep in mind is there aren't even 10,000 minds out there who have what it takes MENTALY to get the better of this game. So you have seen countless systems,/methods, strategies. However you want to phrase it that can't/don't work
I make the argument that pound for pound PATTERN BREAKER is one of the best, if not the best method of alltime. Now Pilots numbers are fantastic, seemingly unbelievable to most. Even I am amazed. But I have a 4 year history with this method and I know what's achievable.
I have enjoyed 100 plus winning streaks, and made a profit with it from DAY 1. But even I have not executed it with the precise discipline that Pilot has. To play a strict 6 games ONLY day in day out. I have to hand it to the guy.
The only problem is Pilot made this incredible claim without the solid proof to back it up. That is a shortcoming I aim to put right over the next year. I am playing the method very close to Pilot. And can already see that his extraordinary claim might be very possible. He basically averages a strikerate of 20/1 consistently throughout a 12 month period over just under 2,200 games.
I have after just 75 games a strikerate of 36/1 I'm playing as he does only with more games per day.Your belief that RBRB cannot ever beat this game will be absolutely proven WRONG by me over the next 6--12 months. As Twister said why own a forum about systems when you don't believe in them???
H.A.R is a strategy of play, it will make a good method into a GREAT method. Just as no-one on this forum can find even 200 straight wins for my other gem 8 ON 1. Twister and I are both around the 500 mark already playing H.A.R. But nobody can explain that. Just make the same tired argument that theres absolutely no difference between playing all day. Or dropping on and off randoms track.
H.A.R works simply because to LOSE I have to land DEAD ON TOP of a losing game. The foolish players who sit there for hours and hours are ALWAYS travelling TOWARDS A LOSS. That's why H.A.R is a superior way to play today , tommorow, FOREVER. And what you see transpire over the next year will also prove this beyond doubt..
John, see my comments in bold text:
QuoteSteve there are people who have been playing this game forever who don't believe its for the taking, or know how to beat it. That doesn't mean IT CANNOT BE BEATEN.
Of course I know that.
Now I understand where you are coming from with your jaded point of view. But your argument for the 10,000 players doesn't stand up. For a start if you had 9,000 successful players of a method. There will be many Pilots among them. Its not a cut and dried level breakdown.
I dont think you understand. My 10,000 player example is another way of saying "there will be winners and losers. The overall result will be overall loss."
In the same sense that the 1,000 supposed losers will not all lose a set sum of 500 sterling in whatever currency..Especially if they are playing a method like PATTERN BREAKER. The thing is this. If I could find 10,000 players to play PATTERN BREAKER to the letter. And everyone of them started out with 500 points. Risking only a fraction of that on a game. A serious dent would be made in the industry. LONGTERM.
There is no difference between 10,000 individual players using your system for one session, and 1 player using your system for 10,000 sessions.
But what you have to keep in mind is there aren't even 10,000 minds out there who have what it takes MENTALY to get the better of this game. So you have seen countless systems,/methods, strategies. However you want to phrase it that can't/don't work
I'm not talking about capacity to follow the system. I'm assuming everyone uses it perfectly.
I make the argument that pound for pound PATTERN BREAKER is one of the best, if not the best method of alltime. Now Pilots numbers are fantastic, seemingly unbelievable to most. Even I am amazed. But I have a 4 year history with this method and I know what's achievable.
I have enjoyed 100 plus winning streaks, and made a profit with it from DAY 1. But even I have not executed it with the precise discipline that Pilot has. To play a strict 6 games ONLY day in day out. I have to hand it to the guy.
The only problem is Pilot made this incredible claim without the solid proof to back it up. That is a shortcoming I aim to put right over the next year. I am playing the method very close to Pilot. And can already see that his extraordinary claim might be very possible. He basically averages a strikerate of 20/1 consistently throughout a 12 month period over just under 2,200 games.
I have after just 75 games a strikerate of 36/1 I'm playing as he does only with more games per day.Your belief that RBRB cannot ever beat this game will be absolutely proven WRONG by me over the next 6--12 months. As Twister said why own a forum about systems when you don't believe in them???
Why own the forum? For a few reasons, main one being I run my ads. It is a fact that most players go about beating roulette all wrong. So what should I do?.. go against what I know is fact and sell something that doesnt work??
I dont believe your claims, whether they are knowingly false or not. It doesnt mean they arent true, but I dont believe you understand WHY I believe this. And you make statements that indicate you dont know what you're saying.
H.A.R is a strategy of play, it will make a good method into a GREAT method. Just as no-one on this forum can find even 200 straight wins for my other gem 8 ON 1. Twister and I are both around the 500 mark already playing H.A.R. But nobody can explain that. Just make the same tired argument that theres absolutely no difference between playing all day. Or dropping on and off randoms track.
H.A.R works simply because to LOSE I have to land DEAD ON TOP of a losing game.
So my understanding is your system can sustain itself for a long time, but a dead on top losing game wipes you out. That is not a long term winning system.
The foolish players who sit there for hours and hours are ALWAYS travelling TOWARDS A LOSS. That's why H.A.R is a superior way to play today , tommorow, FOREVER. And what you see transpire over the next year will also prove this beyond doubt..
John, my issue here is not personal. I know in my capacity as someone who has studied roulette for every day over almost 20 years that your approach cannot work. I see nonsense spread all over the forums and it misleads people and wastes their time. But I am not going to stifle anyone's talk or systems - people can learn for themselves. And if I'm wrong about it, then people will benefit.
I'm not interested in arguing the point further. I've said what I had to say and people can use their own heads.
Dear John Legend,
I am a new member and would like to know, where do I go on the forum to find out how to play your system (Pattern Breaker)?
Is there a manual or a software program available? Any help would be appreciated !
Thank You,
John has been banned from this forum for picking boogers and wiping them on the wall.
You may find him by emailing me at TwoCatSam@cox.net.
You may find the software at MST if it does not attach here.
Welcome--but do not wipe boogers on the wall or the dog.
Sam
Hey Sam,
Remind me not to read any of your posts while I'm eating breakfast will ya!
Thanks.
RouletteStar, you are wasting your time, but it is your right to do so. Everything that needed to be said was already said. You can make up your own mind.
Just keep this in mind:
* besides a mysterious new forum member using a few different proxies to hide their real identity, or some short term players thinking a win over a few spins is proof of anything, nobody is profiting with John's systems because they don't work.
* John has released numerous so-called "holy grail no-fail" systems over the years, and they've all failed. This is probably why "John" keeps creating new accounts and fake names.
* "John" has been blatantly misleading people about his systems, and degrading forum integrity for years. So he was banned, many times before. Last time here, he created another fake name and new "holy grail". His claims brought a lot of attention, as he wanted. That system too was tested, and it failed. In his parting comment identified himself as "John", and alluded to the fact he makes his false claims about his systems just so he can get other people to test his ideas. He deleted the claim but it only went to the deleted items area, so was seen. Numerous outraged forum members saw it and complained before he removed it. He since sent me threatening messages saying he will hack the forum and delete all posts. It hasn't happened obviously but I saw his attempts.
Unfortunately people like him exist. And no forum tolerates his kind of behavior, except one that puts quantity of posts above quality, and members live in blissful ignorance. Some people there are still yet to learn what john is, and nor do they appreciate proper moderation.
Nevertheless his systems are not censored. Anyone can share his systems here. It is not in the best interests of the forum to censor such material. People need to learn for themselves. When someone even admits to constantly lying about the success of his systems to get people to test his ideas, should it be allowed? I wonder.
Quote from: Skakus on Jan 08, 07:19 PM 2013
Hey Sam,
Remind me not to read any of your posts while I'm eating breakfast will ya!
Thanks.
Sorry 'bout that, Mate!
I watched your video and loved it. Will the sequel be along soon. I am working to learn your system.
Your voice sounds so familiar!
Thanks
Quote from: Steve on Jan 08, 08:22 PM 2013
RouletteStar, you are wasting your time, but it is your right to do so. Everything that needed to be said was already said. You can make up your own mind.
Just keep this in mind:
* besides a mysterious new forum member using a few different proxies to hide their real identity, or some short term players thinking a win over a few spins is proof of anything, nobody is profiting with John's systems because they don't work.
* John has released numerous so-called "holy grail no-fail" systems over the years, and they've all failed. This is probably why "John" keeps creating new accounts and fake names.
* "John" has been blatantly misleading people about his systems, and degrading forum integrity for years. So he was banned, many times before. Last time here, he created another fake name and new "holy grail". His claims brought a lot of attention, as he wanted. That system too was tested, and it failed. In his parting comment identified himself as "John", and alluded to the fact he makes his false claims about his systems just so he can get other people to test his ideas. He deleted the claim but it only went to the deleted items area, so was seen. Numerous outraged forum members saw it and complained before he removed it. He since sent me threatening messages saying he will hack the forum and delete all posts. It hasn't happened obviously but I saw his attempts.
Unfortunately people like him exist. And no forum tolerates his kind of behavior, except one that puts quantity of posts above quality, and members live in blissful ignorance. Some people there are still yet to learn what john is, and nor do they appreciate proper moderation.
Nevertheless his systems are not censored. Anyone can share his systems here. It is not in the best interests of the forum to censor such material. People need to learn for themselves. When someone even admits to constantly lying about the success of his systems to get people to test his ideas, should it be allowed? I wonder.
What does a person to gain posting systems that fail and claim he is winning using them.
Quote from: ego on Jan 09, 09:11 AM 2013
What does a person to gain posting systems that fail and claim he is winning using them.
Your avatar name should answer that ?
Quote from: warrior on Jan 09, 10:08 AM 2013
Your avatar name should answer that ?
Well i don't have an issue with person who win.
It is just that i know that person know how to lose and still win overall.
That is the point.
Personally i find JL ideas being very sloppy.
Another person--not me--is now working on a mathematical reason why Jl's PATTERN BREAKER does win. And also why it does not win when it loses.
Jl is a true bloviator, but he may be telling the honest truth.
Sam
QuoteWhat does a person to gain posting systems that fail and claim he is winning using them.
Ego, he does it so he can get other people to test his ideas. He even alluded to this in one of his posts that he later removed. Many members here saw it for themselves.Twocat, I've known "Fender" for years across multiple forums, have seen all of his fake names and all. He has come out with many systems that plain fail, and he follows the same pattern. He makes false claims, publishes a free system, then creates fake accounts to support his claims. Why?.. to have people test his ideas for him.
He has even done it on other forums like casinomeister. You can see the same pattern described above, with the amazing new forum member claiming to have achieved success. Yet the system is a flop like all the others. He does not tell the truth. He's as dishonest as they get.
Can you really think that you can win 180 times and lose only once with 1,2,4 Marty as Mr Pilot claimed? It was such a obvious wind up. ;D Yet some people are desperate to believe in any success story.
QuoteYet some people are desperate to believe in any success story
There you go, that's the perfect explanation of the majority of gamblers.
Roulette is playable and you can make a profit but not with anything that's fixed in strategy, waiting for x and betting y will not work forever, most members just want simple rules, do this until that happens then do that, it isn't that simple. If it was that easy everybody would be winning and roulette would be sent to the history books.
I agree the "legend" systems were massively over hyped. I tried a few of his methods and lost fast. I was suckered like many others. :-X
They were not just over-hyped. They were absolute GARBAGE and he created fake names to help fool people.
And remember HE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE MANY TIMES. Thats why he was banned before.
But ultimately, he just changes his name and more people are fooled.