Hi everyone, this is the real deal.
This is the system you've all been waiting for,
And guess what its free, all it requires is a little effort and the determination to beat the casinos.
Firstly, just a brief description, I've been studying roulette for nearly 7 years.
I have spent between 6-16hours a day trying to find a way to beat it,
I check this site everyday but have finally decided to sign up and give you guys method.
Ok here it is...
Its a FLAT Betting method and it works!
We track 13 spins, (without betting)
So these are the numbers shown.
12
1
7
18
2
19
11
2
36
28
29
23
3
Now we split the results into 2 groups, red and black.
Out of the two groups, the colour with the least shown becomes our first selection.
So we write down 29, 28, 2,2
Now we write down all the red numbers that didnt come out,
Which are 5, 7, 9, 14,16,21,23,25,27,30,32,34
Now we have 16 numbers in total,
To make things simple, copy the layout of the roulette table.
Cross of all the 16. Numbers, number to repeated so make 2 crossed on that number.
Now what we do it count how many are marked off in the dozens and collums.
So..
Collum A- 4
Collum B-7
Collum C-5
Dozen 1-5
Dozen 2-4
Dozen 3-7
Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.
So collum b and dozen 3 are perfect.
We only bet one of the two.
So stick to either a collum or dozen.
Dont bet both, keep things simple just stick to one.
We now flat bet the selection for 13 spins.
Even if we win the first spin, we keep flat betting for 13 spins.
It is that simple, you will be amazed!
A few other things...
If zero shows during tracking 13 spins, just ignore it.
Never bet zero.
After tracking 13 spins make sure That either red or black has come out more than the other.
Example... 8 Blacks 7 Reds
Stick at it, dont give up, trust me at the end of your betting day, you will be in profit every single time.
Enjoy
thank for sharing your system
can you please tell us
1/what bankroll you use
2/what is the maximum drawdown you have seen
3/have you got any graph with fluctuation of the bankroll
4/on how many spins you have test this system
Yes, what is your experience with this system so far other than that it is good?
The bankroll i would suggest would be anything between 40-60 units.
Obviously you could use just 26 units to start as your bankroll,
But i would recommend on what i use, personally is 100 units because strange things happen on roulette.
I have only used this system on RNG. Never tested a real wheel..
Unfortunately i have no graphs as all my recording have been on pen and paper,
But i have been using this system for about 11 months and i have yet to find a losing day and when i play i dont play just 10mins stop at a win,
I have played around 85,000 spins
I sit at the computer for 6/7/8 hour sessions sometimes more.
I am already barred from lots of online casinos and running out of ideas.
So when all you guys feel your pockets full of cash, dont forget the man who gave it to you for nothing.
;)
Anyway i HATE the casino, so i the thought of more people taking their money makes me smile
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 03, 05:42 PM 2012
Hi everyone, this is the real deal.
This is the system you've all been waiting for,
And guess what its free, all it requires is a little effort and the determination to beat the casinos.
Firstly, just a brief description, I've been studying roulette for nearly 7 years.
I have spent between 6-16hours a day trying to find a way to beat it,
I check this site everyday but have finally decided to sign up and give you guys method.
Ok here it is...
Its a FLAT Betting method and it works!
We track 13 spins, (without betting)
So these are the numbers shown.
12
1
7
18
2
19
11
2
36
28
29
23
3
Now we split the results into 2 groups, red and black.
Out of the two groups, the colour with the least shown becomes our first selection.
So we write down 29, 28, 2,2
Now we write down all the red numbers that didn't come out,
Which are 5, 7, 9, 14,16,21,23,25,27,30,32,34
Now we have 16 numbers in total,
To make things simple, copy the layout of the roulette table.
Cross of all the 16. Numbers, number to repeated so make 2 crossed on that number.
Now what we do it count how many are marked off in the dozens and collums.
So..
Collum A- 4
Collum B-7
Collum C-5
Dozen 1-5
Dozen 2-4
Dozen 3-7
Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.
So collum b and dozen 3 are perfect.
We only bet one of the two.
So stick to either a collum or dozen.
don't bet both, keep things simple just stick to one.
We now flat bet the selection for 13 spins.
Even if we win the first spin, we keep flat betting for 13 spins.
It is that simple, you will be amazed!
A few other things...
If zero shows during tracking 13 spins, just ignore it.
Never bet zero.
After tracking 13 spins make sure That either red or black has come out more than the other.
Example... 8 Blacks 7 Reds
Stick at it, don't give up, trust me at the end of your betting day, you will be in profit every single time.
Enjoy
I can see where 16 hours a day could go tracking this.
Just jotting and juggling in notepad, I ended up with this
Doz1 3
Doz2 5
Doz3 6
Col1 3
Col2 4
Col3 7
So col 3 is the only choice.
5u on Col 3 for 13 spins = +10u
i ran same 13 for the others, and all were -5u apart from the highest Doz (wasnt 2 higher tho) which was also +10.
a total brain ache to track and by the time I had tracked it, 5 more numbers would have spun.
Well explained!
And on this little test, did what you said.
Turner
Yes your right,
It can work with only 1 more in the dozen or collumn... But, you will get days where you just almost break even so aslong as you stick with the gap of 2. It works
Also you will find that when you get this sort of outcome....
Dozen 1- 9
Dozen 2-3
Dozen 3- 3
Dozen 1 can hit like 9/10/11 times in 13 spins which is incredible.
One other thing after tracking 13 spins and everything looks good to bet, you dont always win after betting 13 spins, but in the long rung after a few ups and downs you will finish on top.
But please guys try the method on fun mode or free play,
To test it and to make sure your doing everything right before using real money
last 13 spins from dublinbet live online fresh,28,24,26,33,31,2,31,27,35,13,7,9,3,after calculation bet on dozen 1 for 13 spins,this numbers come 6,27,16,32,21,28,13,30,31,30,31,4,26 on end minus 9 units,Scottydog2012 did i doing alright .thank you
"After tracking 13 spins make sure That either red or black has come out more than the other.
Example... 8 Blacks 7 Reds"
I'm pretty math-challenged, but even I can add. If you track for 13 spins and get 8+7=15, something is wrong.
Should you not have said 6 and 7? That's 13, I think.
Members
It worries me when the holder of a "Holy Grail" can't add. Hopefully is was just a typo.
Sam
You sound a bit like JL - in other forum he posted that if they cloned his supporters casinos would be in a big trouble ;D Probably just a coincidence.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Dec 04, 01:03 AM 2012
You sound a bit like JL - in other forum he posted that if they cloned his supporters casinos would be in a big trouble ;D Probably just a coincidence.
Very good catch. This very day JohnLegend disclosed that he is in fact Fender1000
He's made these forums his personal trollcraft home. It's time for moderators to end these magical mystery tours.
I don't think JL could get his head around a flat betting method.
Thanks for all your feedback, ive just noticed myself, Typing era... Should be 6 Black 7 Red.
I was up typing very late.
Any problems im happy to assist.
Quote from: ozzi43 on Dec 03, 08:38 PM 2012
last 13 spins from dublinbet live online fresh,28,24,26,33,31,2,31,27,35,13,7,9,3,after calculation bet on dozen 1 for 13 spins,this numbers come 6,27,16,32,21,28,13,30,31,30,31,4,26 on end minus 9 units,Scottydog2012 did i doing alright .thank you
Unfortunately you have bet it wrong,
Looking at the results you should of been betting dozen 3 for 13 spins...
Hmmm...weird.
Played for hours now, and still in the up. No drawdowns. Can't explain why, but will continue until the well-known sequence of death (as usual). But I like the flatbetting method, because any progression kills us in the long run, no matter what.
Interesting....
Could somebody make a tracker to test it faster? :thumbsup:
I think its important that i clarify a few things and make sure everybody reading this forum profits from roulette, this is what its about.
Ok, some people are claiming that im JL? I have been reading alot of forums on this site for quite along time now and inst JL John Legend, I am Scott Rose by real name by the way.
Without telling the world my full identity, I am from the UK and i have joined this forum to help people,
But i guess people are suspicious, and why wouldn't they be... in my opinion JL is the man who cried wolf, now when someone comes up with a winning system they dont belive it.
Which i completely understand.
I have not come here to prove im not someone, ive come on here because most members on here have dedicated their life to roulette, like myself. I am profiting from roulette everyday of the year i am getting barred and limitations on online casinos so often its driving me crazy.
Right now thats clear...
Holly Grail- what is it?
A holly grail would be a roulette system that would make you rich overnight, it would be a system that requires no hard work and instant riches,
How would we find the holly grail, my guess would be able to predict the future,
The Holly Grail everyone is expecting is instant riches..... which is never going to happen unless your
lucks in and you win millions in one session, in that case stick to the lottery.
Now what my system is, it is what i describe as the "holly grail",
My system works, it works everyday, will it make you rich after 4 hours of reading how to use it....NO!
Will it ever make me rich...YES!
But it will take time, you have to work hard, put the effort in, You get out of life what you put in.
Theres a saying... If its too good to be true than it probably is.
That is correct, but im not on here saying you will be rich tomorrow, because you wont,
I have crafted a formula for you to use,
Formula on its own wont bring you success.
Formula + Nothing = Failure
Formula + Hard work + Determination = Success
Why does my system work,
They say that Blackjack has a memory and roulette doesn't.
Actually that is false because the real truth is blackjack has a memory over 52 cards,
Roulette doesnt have a memory over 52 spins, but... if you recorded lets say 3,000 spins on roulette, you will actually see that everything equals its self out in the long run.
What my system does is, basically calculates thousands of spins in 13 spins,
It is not just one system, it is many systems in one.
it works on a law of probability, This is why we FLAT bet only.
Progression will not give you success in the long run.
Because whilst betting for 13 spins you might not even hit a win, a 13 spin progression would make you commit suicide.
So your probably think yes i know this...
But what you dont know is this, this system takes away the houses edge,
play as i have described you are now the casino,
So lets pretend now... so you got to a casino, you win, you go the next day you win. and so on.....
But eventually you will lose, it will catch you eventually.
This is what the system does, you could track 13 numbers right now and make a loss, than track another 13 numbers and make a loss.. but the whole point of this system is this,
The longer you play the more likely you are to win, FLAT betting so you can afford to have a disaster 50 spins (unlucky streak) because once the odds come back in your favour you still have ammunition.
If you have any problems learning this system, or maybe im not explaining things clear enough, ask me i will do my best to assist,
This system works! When i was first came up with it i was trying to make the systme lose so i didnt waste months of my life to find out it fails at the end.
It doesnt fail, Please someone come on this forum and prove me wrong, im not a graphs or computer expert, but i really really would love someone to come on here with some proof im wrong,
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER USE PROGRESSION WITH THIS SYSTEM,
Ive tried it, IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!
Flat bet only, one last thing....
If your finding this system isnt working on the RNG roulette your using, try another casino make that casino could be rigged, but i have yet to find one that has failed me,
But please everyone, you do good in life and you get rewarded back,
So in 11 months time you have earned over £750,000, look back and go hey scottydog2012,
heres a nice little cash bonus for you,
I would never charge anyway to view this system, i dont need your money and i dont want your money, if a system really work why would you sell it.
but soon i will be unable to open a casino account because my name will be black listed on every single one.
Enjoy Rouletters!!!!
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 03, 05:42 PM 2012
Hi everyone, this is the real deal.
This is the system you've all been waiting for,
And guess what its free, all it requires is a little effort and the determination to beat the casinos.
Firstly, just a brief description, I've been studying roulette for nearly 7 years.
I have spent between 6-16hours a day trying to find a way to beat it,
I check this site everyday but have finally decided to sign up and give you guys method.
Ok here it is...
Its a FLAT Betting method and it works!
We track 13 spins, (without betting)
So these are the numbers shown.
12
1
7
18
2
19
11
2
36
28
29
23
3
Now we split the results into 2 groups, red and black.
Out of the two groups, the colour with the least shown becomes our first selection.
So we write down 29, 28, 2,2
Now we write down all the red numbers that didn't come out,
Which are 5, 7, 9, 14,16,21,23,25,27,30,32,34
Now we have 16 numbers in total,
To make things simple, copy the layout of the roulette table.
Cross of all the 16. Numbers, number to repeated so make 2 crossed on that number.
Now what we do it count how many are marked off in the dozens and collums.
So..
Collum A- 4
Collum B-7
Collum C-5
Dozen 1-5
Dozen 2-4
Dozen 3-7
Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.
So collum b and dozen 3 are perfect.
We only bet one of the two.
So stick to either a collum or dozen.
don't bet both, keep things simple just stick to one.
We now flat bet the selection for 13 spins.
Even if we win the first spin, we keep flat betting for 13 spins.
It is that simple, you will be amazed!
A few other things...
If zero shows during tracking 13 spins, just ignore it.
Never bet zero.
After tracking 13 spins make sure That either red or black has come out more than the other.
Example... 8 Blacks 7 Reds
Stick at it, don't give up, trust me at the end of your betting day, you will be in profit every single time.
Enjoy
Just to clarify the black numbers are 2,11,28,29 right?
So i assume you made a typo.
Also what do you mean by 'Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.'?
I wanna test this but I need to be firm on the system before i make the tracker.
Is it just me or does anyone else wonder why the red black bit is there? the bet selection is determined by how many are in each dozen/column, am I missing something?
Quote from: weddings on Dec 04, 05:57 AM 2012
Just to clarify the black numbers are 2,11,28,29 right?
So i assume you made a typo.
Also what do you mean by 'Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.'?
I wanna test this but I need to be firm on the system before i make the tracker.
Thanks for your reply,
I was up late last night and i have noticed a few errors,
I am just in the middle RE-TYPING the system so there is no mistakes and so it makes complete sense.
thats what I was wondering too.
@ Scottydog2012
Can you answer that please
Quote from: superman on Dec 04, 05:58 AM 2012
Is it just me or does anyone else wonder why the red black bit is there? the bet selection is determined by how many are in each dozen/column, am I mcissing somecthing?
The lowest red /black plus the unhit r/b of the highest r/b
Basically its a cold number preference
Betting the doz/col that has themost of what i said above. It has to be at least 2 higher than the others.
In my ex. A few posts back there were 4 black and 9 red. I found 10 unhit reds and added to 4 Black.
col c had most and was 2 higher than the other 5
I still don't see the need to know red/black if the trigger is looking at which doz/col had the most shows
Quote from: superman on Dec 04, 06:27 AM 2012
I still don't see the need to know red/black if the trigger is looking at which doz/col had the most shows
Oh right...no...i dont see the relevance either.
Theres nothong you can do to change the fact that all 13 bets are 2:1
Turner
A manual tracker and an example of how to use it.
I spect I have been understand this system well. :thumbsup:
To be sure, you bet the selected column or dozen OR you bet the crossed numbers of the selected column or dozen?
I am testing betting in dozen or colum, but dont know if i am playing this properly.
At this moment, i think this system do not work. :-[
Quote from: jarabo002 on Dec 04, 07:07 AM 2012
I am testing betting in dozen or column, but don't know if i am playing this properly.
At this moment, i think this system do not work. :-[
yes i did a test its a no go for me. i actually used my own money 200 down to 170. maybe this has to be played for a long time but looking at how fast it dropped its a big no for me.
@ scottydog 2012
The tracker in excel is here.
I lost 4 games in a row., but could recover. Yes in fun-mode and flat betting.
:thumbsup:
Ludo8400
Edit: Found answer reading my post.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 04, 03:23 AM 2012
Unfortunately you have bet it wrong,
Looking at the results you should of been betting dozen 3 for 13 spins...
thank u for sharing.
as my understanding, we should bet dozen 1 for 13 spins
ozzi43 last 13 numbers 28,24,26,33,31,2,31,27,35,13,7,9,3
9 blacks 4 reds ,so we choose red for first selection
write down 27 7 9 3
now we write down all the black numbers that didn't come out
which are: 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 15, 17, 20, 22, 29
now we have 14 numbers, the results
Collum A- 4
Collum B-5
Collum C-5
Dozen 1-8
Dozen 2-4
Dozen 3-2
so dozen 1 is the only betting option ,
am i doing wrong???,, thanks
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 03, 06:24 PM 2012
I have only used this system on RNG. Never tested a real wheel..
So 85,000 spin history with no losses... but it's never been tried on a real honest to god wheel???
Just sort of stuck out to me as I was reading the thread
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 05, 03:07 AM 2012
@ scottydog 2012
The tracker in excel is here.
I lost 4 games in a row., but could recover. Yes in fun-mode and flat betting.
:thumbsup:
Ludo8400
In mine opinion tracker doesn't work under given rules! Has anybody else checked it?
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 03, 06:24 PM 2012
Unfortunately i have no graphs as all my recording have been on pen and paper,
Yeah, we definitely need a tracker!
Well if I understood it properly I would code it and give it a good test but as yet, nobody but Scottydog knows the rules properly, ho hum
Hi Guys
I have recorded videos teaching how to play,
Should be uploaded within a few hours
That tracker seems to work.
The problem is the opening post/explanation seems corrupt to my calculations, suprised nobody else picked it up, if you look at the image, make sure I have placed the tokens on the correct numbers, then look at his calculations, they appear worng, or is it still just me?
EDIT: Or, just spotted something, has he switched column A with column C to confuse us, as far as I know nunber 1 is in column A
Quote from: Gizmotron on Dec 04, 02:18 AM 2012
It's time for moderators to end these magical mystery tours.
What would remain? The real-real winning methods? The Wizard's board, of "good scammers"?
P.S. Interesting sequence of avatars, Skakus! Reminds me of those Mensa questions, in which only one is the (right) answer.
P.P.S. You are going to enlighten us?
Ok let me try explaining as clear as poss, than someone can do they computer genius skills and run whatever tests needed.
Here it is....
WE TRACK 13 SPINS (WITHOUT BETTING)
6
24
16
17
8
13
17
30
7
24
31
34
29
WE SPLIT THE 13 NUMBERS INTO 2 GROUPS, 1 GROUP OF BLACK NUMBERS, 1 GROUP OF RED NUMBERS
RED- 16, 30,7,34
BLACK- 6,24,17,8,13,17,24,31,29
YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE COLOR MORE THAN THE OTHER, SO IF ZERO IS SHOWN, IGNORE IT
(WE ONLY PUT THEM INTO RED AND BLACK GROUPS TO SIMPLIFY HOW WE BET, WE WILL NOT BE BETTING ON RED OR BLACK)
OUT OF THE 2 GROUPS WE CAN SEE THAT THE RED SELECTION HAS ONLY 4 HITS AND BLACK HAS 9 HITS.
WE TAKE THE COLOR WITH THE SMALLEST SHOWING.
RED, SO NOW WE WRITE THE 4 RED NUMBERS DOWN, 16,30,7,34
THE COLOR WITH THE MOST SHOWN IN THIS CASE BLACK, WE WILL IGNORE THOSE NUMBERS BUT WE WILL WRITE DOWN ALL THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT DIDNT SHOW
BLACK NUMBERS NEVER SHOWED- 2,4,10,11,15,20,22,26,28,33,35
NOW IF WE DREW THE LAYOUT OF THE ROULETTE TABLE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS
3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27 30 36
2 5 8 11 14 17 20 23 26 29 35
1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 34
NOW MARK OFF THE 4 RED NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN AND MARK OF THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT DIDNT SHOW. IF THE SAME NUMBER HAS COME UP PUT 2 MARKS ON IT, SO WHEN WE COUNT THE COLUMN OR DOZEN WE COUNT 2 ETC..
NOW WE WILL DEVIDE THE LAYOUT INTO THEIR COLUMNS AND DOZENS,
ALL THE NUMBERS MARKED OFF WE WILL ALLOCATE INTO THEIR SELECTED AREAS.
DOZEN 1- 5
DOZEN 2- 3
DOZEN 3- 6
COLUMN A- 3
COLUMN B- 5
COLUMN C- 7
WE NOW ARE LOOKING FOR ONE BETTING AREA, SO EITHER A COLUMN OR DOZEN, BUT.. WE MUST HAVE A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE FOR IT TO BE PLAYABLE,
SO WE CANT PLAY THE DOZENS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 1 POINT DIFFERENCE,
BUT WE CAN PLAY THE COLUMN BECAUSE THERE IS A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE, SO THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN EITHER DOZEN OR COLUMN HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST A 2 POINT GAP.
NOW WE FLAT BET COLUMN C FOR 13 SPINS,
AFTER 13 SPINS, WE CAN NOW USE THE 13 NUMBERS WE HAVE BET ON TO USE AS THE NUMBERS TO CROSS OFF ON THE LAYOUT, SO WE DONT HAVE TO RE TRACK 13 NUMBERS AGAIN,
I HAVE LOST 6,7 SESSIONS IN A ROW BUT EVENTUALLY EVERYTHING COMES BACK AND YOUR BANKROLL KEEPS RISING SOMETIMES VERY QUICKLY SOMETIMES SLOWLY
HOPE THIS HELPS AND THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE
Here is a link of the video on how to play,
I tried to start with a session where i was losing just so you can see how well it works after a losing run,
I am placing chips on single numbers just to work out where to bet, that way you can see how its done on paper,
heres the link
Video 1 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=4aNWYH9O3M4#ws)
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:09 AM 2012
Ok let me try explaining as clear as poss, than someone can do they computer genius skills and run whatever tests needed.
Give it up, man. You're no genius, yourself, right?
Regular gamblers (with any money left) speak in terms of good/bad months/years; not in terms of a few posts/replies. Variance/deviation takes longer than this.
I do believe that you believe, but that's it.
I got -4 using the third column with these numbers.
28
34
2
15
23
16
36
7
3
24
12
33
13
21
24
28
14
31
23
28
31
32
19
27
22
7
I gotta say I don't see why it should win but good luck anyway scottydog.
QuoteI gotta say I don't see why it should win but good luck anyway scottydog
Have to agree buddy, now that I've seen the video too, we now know where the number 13 comes from, Playtech displays the last 13 numbers on its marquee. The method appears to have been made from pure eye candy, good luck Scottydog, also noticed the "Play for real money" button, have you played it for real money mate?
Quote from: GARNabby on Dec 05, 11:18 AM 2012
Give it up, man. You're no genius, yourself, right?
Regular gamblers (with any money left) speak in terms of good/bad months/years; not in terms of a few posts/replies. Variance/deviation takes longer than this.
I do believe that you believe, but that's it.
Why do people expect to win in 10mins?
Test the system for 1 week 8 hours a day and if youve made a loss than post something constructive,
Thanks for your comment but please people need to understand it wont work if you quit after a few mins and lost a few chips, if your losing, ride it out, hold onto your hat,
Your balance will go back into profit than call it a day.
yeh if it works why havent you done a video of playing for real money? surely you might aswell make some gwap while you show a demo?
the reason why i havent showed you for real money is because i am currently using Ladbrokes casino,
it will not let me spin the wheel without betting and its a very slow process,for me to show you a video,
I am banned for using real money on las vegas casino, this is this casino where i came up with the method, so i used play for fun mode, its simple fast and efficient.
Look its getting ridiculous, i have come on this forum to help people, i have worked so hard the last few years trying to make roulette work for me.
It works for me, so its entirely your choice to use it, if you thinks it doesnt work than dont try it,
I have nothing to prove to anyone on here, i am sharing something for free.
TRY IT OR DONT.
But i suppose most negative people on this forum are PROBLEM GAMBLERS rather than Professional Gamblers.
All people want is a quick fix,
You either run tests to prove me wrong or just ignore my posts,
im here to help, not for people tell me im failing when i am not,
I have given up lots of spare time to join this form and help.
in future i wont bother. Keep throwing your money away.
ok mr.scotty dog....just question ..how much did you put in and how much have you won for the period you have been using this system..as proffesssssional gambler you must know that answer ..thank you :thumbsup:
QuoteI'm here to help, not for people tell me I'm failing when i am not,
I have given up lots of spare time to join this form and help
We do appreciate the time you have taken Scotty, please don't take anything as a direct insult or that we don't believe you, if it works for you that's excellent news for us, it's just that when we see things like those mentioned we start to question the OP about the method, I may still code it and run some tests, if I do the results will be posted.
A few questions mate, if you don't mind answering them for us.
1) how often and how long do you play the method
2) how long have you need playing this method for real momney
3) what was your starting bankroll
4) can you give some idea of the banks ups and downs, like do you come out ahead every day? every session? every week? whats the largest drawdown you have had etc etc
5) have you ever just called it a day after losing any specific amount of bankroll
PS Try to ignore some of the previous posts/posters, there are a good few hear just trying to bust everyones balls, if you stick around you'll mentally note them and just skim their useless drivel, the rest of us, well some call us idiots, thats their perogative I suppose, the rest of us are probably as eager as you are.
Never play on RNG roulette. You should learn that. Sooner or later... It can't be trusted in any way....
I started in january this year, £50 i deposited.
I know bet £200 a spin
I have £580,000 cash in the bank.
£33,000 in my ladbrokes account and i will take a screen shot of my REAL balance and post it up.
continued....
Obviously i didnt win it all in one casino... i started with £0.10 bets,
I also drive a brand new Mini, this time last year i couldnt afford a pair of new trainers
Quote£33,000 in my ladbrokes account and i will take a screen shot of my REAL balance and post it up
That would be good to see.
£50 turned into £580,000 Five hundred and eighty thousand, I'm guessing that's not a typo?
QuoteI also drive a brand new Mini
Why? with that sort of money, somethings not adding up here, can't wait to see that REAL money balance, hope its not a photoshop edited balance. Not that I don't believe you mate.
sounds very goood...good luck :thumbsup:
Thanks Scottydog. I see it more clear.
I only have to add: "If there are not a dozen/column that qualifyes, continue re-tracking until it does."
Someone could encode this system and check it out as a graph for no zero roulette, for example? I think it is the most effective. Of course, I do not know how to do it. I only make handsheets. ^-^
Quote from: jarabo002 on Dec 05, 12:13 PM 2012
Thanks Scottydog. I see it more clear.
I only have to add: "If there are not a dozen/column that qualifyes, continue re-tracking until it does."
Someone could encode this system and check it out as a graph for no zero roulette, for example? I think it is the most effective. Of course, I do not know how to do it. I only make handsheets. ^-^
Yes re track
Hi ScottyDog,
A big thanks to you for sharing your system. Obviously there are some sceptics among us, since we all know there is no proven long term winning strategy untill today. I just wanted you to know your input is much appreciated.
Regards,
Bassie
so what was your average profit each day and for how many hours?
ive got some spare cash that i dont mind losing seems like its a big big grind so far
when did you move up from 10p to....
cheers
for the record, a sceptical Turner is sticking his flag in the sand with "Red Herring-disruntled banned member"on it.
Has anyone even tried my system gor a few hours?
I have been testing this on paper with Dublinbet, incase betting on column or dozen, its more session in loss then profit. BUT if you bet the numbers crossed in the selected column or dozen, i end up in an overall profit.
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Dec 05, 12:39 PM 2012
I have been testing this on paper with Dublinbet, incase betting on column or dozen, its more session in loss then profit. BUT if you bet the numbers crossed in the selected column or dozen, i end up in an overall profit.
Is dublinbet a real wheel?
Ive only player RNG.
ive played just over an hour from 14 to 23.72
0.50 a unit i know its higher than what you said but ill take the risk!
i doubt i could play this for 8 hours a day at 0.50 but with a decent flat bet it would be good still too early tho
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:55 AM 2012
I have £580,000 cash in the bank.
Why you don't buy a little tracker? Its much easyer....I would lose my eyes if i would play like you in your video.
Quote from: StackBundles on Dec 05, 12:50 PM 2012
I've played just over an hour from 14 to 23.72
0.50 a unit i know its higher than what you said but ill take the risk!
i doubt i could play this for 8 hours a day at 0.50 but with a decent flat bet it would be good still too early though
Hi Stackbundles,
Do I get this correct? 1 hour playing on ScottyDog's system, instead of dozen/column betting you bet the marked numbers in the selected dozen/column and you end up say 20 units in a plus?
Quote from: superman on Dec 05, 11:59 AM 2012
Not that I don't believe you mate.
Oh yeah? :) .....It seems to me that he achieved what he wanted.....
Question, what if you track 13 reds or 13 blacks?
Quote from: marivo on Dec 05, 12:53 PM 2012
Why you don't buy a little tracker? Its much easyer....I would lose my eyes if i would play like you in your video.
I am rubbish with computers but if someone could build me a bot or whatever there called, im more than happy to pay for it?
Quote from: superman on Dec 05, 11:54 AM 2012
We do appreciate the time you have taken Scotty, please don't take anything as a direct insult or that we don't believe you, if it works for you that's excellent news for us, it's just that when we see things like those mentioned we start to question the OP about the method, I may still code it and run some tests, if I do the results will be posted.
A few questions mate, if you don't mind answering them for us.
1) how often and how long do you play the method
2) how long have you need playing this method for real momney
3) what was your starting bankroll
4) can you give some idea of the banks ups and downs, like do you come out ahead every day? every session? every week? what's the largest drawdown you have had etc etc
5) have you ever just called it a day after losing any specific amount of bankroll
PS Try to ignore some of the previous posts/posters, there are a good few hear just trying to bust everyones balls, if you stick around you'll mentally note them and just skim their useless drivel, the rest of us, well some call us idiots, that's their perogative I suppose, the rest of us are probably as eager as you are.
Thanks for your input,
I havent taken anything personally just like people to try before they judge.
I play everyday of the week, on average 6/7hours a day
Ive been playing with real money since January
My starting bank roll was £50 when i fist started at 0.10 chips
Now my bankroll is 20,000 at 200 a chip
Its a funny old game it can fluctuate all over the place sometimes my bankroll goes down to 5-6,000
I have yet to find a day where i have ended in a loss.
But the bankroll can go very low but
Ususally on average my 20,000 bankroll goes no lower than 16,000
:lol:
Quote from: superman on Dec 05, 01:35 PM 2012
Question, what if you track 13 reds or 13 blacks?
Also wanna know this one.
Quote from: marivo on Dec 05, 02:12 PM 2012
:LoL:
Remember thats only 20 lost bets at 200 a piece.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:09 AM 2012
NOW MARK OFF THE 4 RED NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN AND MARK OF THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT didn't SHOW. IF THE SAME NUMBER HAS COME UP PUT 2 MARKS ON IT, SO WHEN WE COUNT THE COLUMN OR DOZEN WE COUNT 2 ETC..
How can the same number come up.....the 4 red and unshown blacks will all be different numbers wont they??????
Quote from: rolf-harris on Dec 05, 02:43 PM 2012
How can the same number come up.....the 4 red and unshown blacks will all be different numbers won't they??????
No,
You could have this result
34
34
34
2
4
11
11
13
33
35
2
8
17
That only 3 Reds but all the same numbers
I gonna try to help you Scotty.
Look at the test XLS file, let me know if the conditions are right.
Just press "F9" it will renew the RNG numbers in the 13 sample spins.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 01:52 PM 2012
I am nonsense with computers but if someone could build me a bot or whatever there called, I'm more than happy to pay for it?
I guess that you first need to pay and then expect someone to build a bot for u.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:55 AM 2012
£33,000 in my ladbrokes account and i will take a screen shot of my REAL balance and post it up.
how much time do you need to take a screen shot ?
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:08 PM 2012
I gonna try to help you Scotty.
Look at the test XLS file, let me know if the conditions are right.
Just press "F9" it will renew the RNG numbers in the 13 sample spins.
checked it out but this is new to me, what will this do?
Nit trying to be stupid but not sure what it does, but looks right to me...
@Scottydog,
If we track 13 reds in a row do we continue tracking until the first black number shows then just use the previous 12 reds to make up 13 numbers??
Quote from: Skakus on Dec 05, 03:19 PM 2012
@Scottydog,
If we track 13 reds in a row do we continue tracking until the first black number shows then just use the previous 12 reds to make up 13 numbers??
You could re track another 12 numbers, but i would just use the 12 reds, only need atleast 1 color
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:09 AM 2012
Ok let me try explaining as clear as poss, than someone can do they computer genius skills and run whatever tests needed.
Here it is....
WE TRACK 13 SPINS (WITHOUT BETTING)
6
24
16
17
8
13
17
30
7
24
31
34
29
WE SPLIT THE 13 NUMBERS INTO 2 GROUPS, 1 GROUP OF BLACK NUMBERS, 1 GROUP OF RED NUMBERS
RED- 16, 30,7,34
BLACK- 6,24,17,8,13,17,24,31,29
YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE COLOR MORE THAN THE OTHER, SO IF ZERO IS SHOWN, IGNORE IT
(WE ONLY PUT THEM INTO RED AND BLACK GROUPS TO SIMPLIFY HOW WE BET, WE WILL NOT BE BETTING ON RED OR BLACK)
OUT OF THE 2 GROUPS WE CAN SEE THAT THE RED SELECTION HAS ONLY 4 HITS AND BLACK HAS 9 HITS.
WE TAKE THE COLOR WITH THE SMALLEST SHOWING.
RED, SO NOW WE WRITE THE 4 RED NUMBERS DOWN, 16,30,7,34
THE COLOR WITH THE MOST SHOWN IN THIS CASE BLACK, WE WILL IGNORE THOSE NUMBERS BUT WE WILL WRITE DOWN ALL THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT didn't SHOW
BLACK NUMBERS NEVER SHOWED- 2,4,10,11,15,20,22,26,28,33,35
NOW IF WE DREW THE LAYOUT OF THE ROULETTE TABLE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS
3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27 30 36
2 5 8 11 14 17 20 23 26 29 35
1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 34
NOW MARK OFF THE 4 RED NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN AND MARK OF THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT didn't SHOW. IF THE SAME NUMBER HAS COME UP PUT 2 MARKS ON IT, SO WHEN WE COUNT THE COLUMN OR DOZEN WE COUNT 2 ETC..
NOW WE WILL divide THE LAYOUT INTO THEIR COLUMNS AND DOZENS,
ALL THE NUMBERS MARKED OFF WE WILL ALLOCATE INTO THEIR SELECTED AREAS.
DOZEN 1- 5
DOZEN 2- 3
DOZEN 3- 6
COLUMN A- 3
COLUMN B- 5
COLUMN C- 7
WE NOW ARE LOOKING FOR ONE BETTING AREA, SO EITHER A COLUMN OR DOZEN, BUT.. WE MUST HAVE A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE FOR IT TO BE PLAYABLE,
SO WE can't PLAY THE DOZENS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 1 POINT DIFFERENCE,
BUT WE CAN PLAY THE COLUMN BECAUSE THERE IS A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE, SO THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN EITHER DOZEN OR COLUMN HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST A 2 POINT GAP.
THE XLS FILE IS A TRACKER
Scotty the XLS file track the 13 spins, now observing You can choose the column or dozen to bet !!!
I just wanna know if it follows your rules, them i can finish the job.
Just insert the 13 numbers in the yellow field to test it.
QuoteIf we track 13 reds in a row
Was going to ask that, I have another question regarding this, have you ever had this scenario?
Also, if after tracking, both columns AND dozens are good to bet which do you select and why
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:55 AM 2012
I started in january this year, £50 i deposited.
I know bet £200 a spin
I have £580,000 cash in the bank.
£33,000 in my ladbrokes account and i will take a screen shot of my REAL balance and post it up.
right...Ill humour this just out of pure amazement. I don't think I am being cynical or negative asking:
Question 1.you have over half a Mill in the bank so you are a very very wealthy man. Why are you on a forum telling us how you won it?
Question 2. Why do you have 33K in Ladbrokes? No one keeps a massive BR in an online casino. Nobody.
Question 3. Why is everyone asking questions about the system without asking Q1 and Q2 first??? Thats what I cant believe
Turner
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:30 PM 2012
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:09 AM 2012
Ok let me try explaining as clear as poss, than someone can do they computer genius skills and run whatever tests needed.
Here it is....
WE TRACK 13 SPINS (WITHOUT BETTING)
6
24
16
17
8
13
17
30
7
24
31
34
29
WE SPLIT THE 13 NUMBERS INTO 2 GROUPS, 1 GROUP OF BLACK NUMBERS, 1 GROUP OF RED NUMBERS
RED- 16, 30,7,34
BLACK- 6,24,17,8,13,17,24,31,29
YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE COLOR MORE THAN THE OTHER, SO IF ZERO IS SHOWN, IGNORE IT
(WE ONLY PUT THEM INTO RED AND BLACK GROUPS TO SIMPLIFY HOW WE BET, WE WILL NOT BE BETTING ON RED OR BLACK)
OUT OF THE 2 GROUPS WE CAN SEE THAT THE RED SELECTION HAS ONLY 4 HITS AND BLACK HAS 9 HITS.
WE TAKE THE COLOR WITH THE SMALLEST SHOWING.
RED, SO NOW WE WRITE THE 4 RED NUMBERS DOWN, 16,30,7,34
THE COLOR WITH THE MOST SHOWN IN THIS CASE BLACK, WE WILL IGNORE THOSE NUMBERS BUT WE WILL WRITE DOWN ALL THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT didn't SHOW
BLACK NUMBERS NEVER SHOWED- 2,4,10,11,15,20,22,26,28,33,35
NOW IF WE DREW THE LAYOUT OF THE ROULETTE TABLE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS
3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27 30 36
2 5 8 11 14 17 20 23 26 29 35
1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 34
NOW MARK OFF THE 4 RED NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN AND MARK OF THE BLACK NUMBERS THAT didn't SHOW. IF THE SAME NUMBER HAS COME UP PUT 2 MARKS ON IT, SO WHEN WE COUNT THE COLUMN OR DOZEN WE COUNT 2 ETC..
NOW WE WILL divide THE LAYOUT INTO THEIR COLUMNS AND DOZENS,
ALL THE NUMBERS MARKED OFF WE WILL ALLOCATE INTO THEIR SELECTED AREAS.
DOZEN 1- 5
DOZEN 2- 3
DOZEN 3- 6
COLUMN A- 3
COLUMN B- 5
COLUMN C- 7
WE NOW ARE LOOKING FOR ONE BETTING AREA, SO EITHER A COLUMN OR DOZEN, BUT.. WE MUST HAVE A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE FOR IT TO BE PLAYABLE,
SO WE can't PLAY THE DOZENS BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 1 POINT DIFFERENCE,
BUT WE CAN PLAY THE COLUMN BECAUSE THERE IS A 2 POINT DIFFERENCE, SO THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN EITHER DOZEN OR COLUMN HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST A 2 POINT GAP.
THE XLS FILE IS A TRACKER
Scotty the XLS file track the 13 spins, now observing You can choose the column or dozen to bet !!!
I just wanna know if it follows your rules, them i can finish the job.
Just insert the 13 numbers in the yellow field to test it.
If theres a 2 point difference you can either bet both if the apply, or chose just 1, it doesnt make no difference, i personally back both if they have 2 points difference.
Mister Turner,
With all due respect, who think only in money $$$ and don't care of anything else, shall deliver his soul to the devil!
Share or help u really need! Will bring harmony to your soul.
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:45 PM 2012
Mister Turner,
With all due respect, who think only in money earned and not worry and sharing your knowledge, shall deliver his soul to the devil!
Listen Confucious....I live in the real world, not cloud cuckoo land. i won't say "I'm a bit suspicious" or "its a tad hard to believe". Its completly feckin rediculous.
perhaps I'm the only sane one here. Perhaps this is Shutter Island and it was me who was mad all along. (sorry if I just ruined that film if you were planning to watch it)!
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:45 PM 2012
Mister Turner,
With all due respect, who think only in money earned and not worry and sharing your knowledge, shall deliver his soul to the devil!
Share or help u really need! Should bring harmony to your soul.
So now we have religious fanatics here on forum?
Marveles. :twisted:
Because of GREED observe the world, and what u see ?!?
I see a dark age coming... humanity will suffer...
Quote from: Turner on Dec 05, 03:39 PM 2012
right...Ill humour this just out of pure amazement. I don't think I am being cynical or negative asking:
Question 1.you have over half a Mill in the bank so you are a very very wealthy man. Why are you on a forum telling us how you won it?
Question 2. Why do you have 33K in Ladbrokes? No one keeps a massive BR in an online casino. Nobody.
Question 3. Why is everyone asking questions about the system without asking Q1 and Q2 first??? that's what I can't believe
Turner
Why am i telling people...
Because i wasted hundreds and thousands of pounds on systems that fail,
I paid 2,000 for a system once that was martingale, were talking about 7 years ago,
The beleif that if you have a system people think your become a billionaire,
I won 18k with williamhill 2 months ago, they banned me and im still waiting to get paid! aparantly still "under investigation"
Doesnt matter how good your system is you have to milk the cash slowly!
But ive said it before im only offering a system you have put the work in,
Ive seen so many people on here and other sites working so hard to find something that works,
I would love to see everyone on here win,
Makes no difference to me,
Most people cant be arsed to put the effort in thats why even a winning system would never break the casinos.
Why do i have 33k in my ladbrokes account,
I know what im doing, if i start taking my profits outs daily/weekly
I will be on the radar straight away, why would a casino ban a customer who has cashed out on winnings?....
Because they know they have the edge, if they do check my balance they think, oh lucky customer wont be long until the house edge takes it away...
So now what i do is milk the bastards... Slowly but dangerously 3/4 weeks time i cash out,
Than i carry on if my account is still open.
I dont know why there not asking q1 or q2 maybe there using the system, trying it out before they question me...?
Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs, the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.
Nikola Tesla
Quote from: Turner on Dec 05, 03:39 PM 2012
right...Ill humour this just out of pure amazement. I don't think I am being cynical or negative asking:
Question 1.you have over half a Mill in the bank so you are a very very wealthy man. Why are you on a forum telling us how you won it?
Question 2. Why do you have 33K in Ladbrokes? No one keeps a massive BR in an online casino. Nobody.
Question 3. Why is everyone asking questions about the system without asking Q1 and Q2 first??? that's what I can't believe
Turner
What he said!! With bells on!
Roughy
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:58 PM 2012
Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs, the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.
Nikola Tesla
(link:://services.jagex.com/m=news/img/screenshots/Area/2011/troll_thumb.gif)
I see your future on this forum very clearly.
Something is not quite right here.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Dec 05, 04:08 PM 2012
Something is not quite right here.
Ken
Test the system, than make a judgement
Scottydog2012 = on-line casinos :wink:
Is he feared of himself?
Quote from: marivo on Dec 05, 04:14 PM 2012
Scottydog2012 = on-line casinos :wink:
Is he feared of himself?
What do you mean by that?
Whereabouts in the UK are you from Scottydog?
Quote from: MrJ on Dec 05, 04:08 PM 2012
Something is not quite right here.
Ken
LOL, no sh.t, I mean no shit!
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:10 PM 2012
Test the system, than make a judgement
My instinct has little to do with your system.
Ken
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:16 PM 2012
What do you mean by that?
That you are good player, but you don't play roulette, you play with members (some).
Quote from: marivo on Dec 05, 04:19 PM 2012
That you are good player, but you don't play roulette, you play with members (some).
I must admit, peoples amaginations on here are incredible
Quote from: Roughy on Dec 05, 04:17 PM 2012
Whereabouts in the UK are you from Scottydog?
Your not going to stalk me are you?
Somebody encoding system in excel or Rx, try it with infinite spins, see the result and if it works or not. End of story.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:21 PM 2012
I must admit, peoples imagination on here are incredible
Its reality, its not imagination ;)
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That's why you are doing all this comedy! Most members know what the time is!
Scottydog2012, first of all you cannot argue your system is the best. Show some real result with live spins. (Not RNG! Especially not practice mode RNG...) :/
Truth will come sooner or later if it's a working system or not.
Quote from: jarabo002 on Dec 05, 04:24 PM 2012
Somebody encoding system in excel or Rx, try it with infinite spins, see the result and if it works or not. End of story.
Well said!
I cannot wait to shut all your faces up and hopefully some apollogies comming my way!
:)
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:58 PM 2012
Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs, the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.
Nikola Tesla
Tesla obviously didnt put salt on his dinner before tasting it. (10 points who guesses what I am on about)
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 05, 04:29 PM 2012
Scottydog2012, first of all you cannot argue your system is the best. Show some real result with live spins. (Not RNG! Especially not practice mode RNG...) :/
Truth will come sooner or later if it's a working system or not.
Think people are miissing the point my system is a RNG system,
Live wheel has not been tested,
Who ever thinks that a live wheel and RNG is the same needs a reality check
QuoteSomething is not quite right here.
I smell it too. I can point out numerous suspicious things, but hey, test the system. Guaranteed to fail. But everyone can find out for themselves.
QuoteI cannot wait to shut all your faces up and hopefully some apollogies comming my way!
I know someone else who says this kind of things often, like he is after attention and validation. He is also from same region.
Anyway, I'll just watch ::)
Imagine what you will, but a method spawned on RNG likely is not going to have casinos shaking in their boots.
If it all turns out great the tax attorneys will certainly do well...but a method borne in online casinos where tracking is pretty easy by all concerned with such grandious results...well it sorta makes you say hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I am not a roulette naysayer by any stretch of the imagination. The wheel can be beat...but I think the jury is still out on this one...for now I will keep doing what I've been doing.
Im missing out on a few hours play for this forum...
Must admit your all cracking me up..
Worth it
Good grief!
OK.........................
Here's what I wanted with FLATman................PLEASE READ ON
Someone make a tracker.
The Dog can do a sheet from any Spielbank run.
The author of the tracker can check it.
End of fight.
RNG you say??
I've got a can full of RNG spins no swingin' dick on the planet has seen from BV both NZ and Z. I'll post them if that will help.
Before we burn the guy at the stake, let's try to learn the truth.
Sam
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:32 PM 2012
Think people are miissing the point my system is a RNG system,
Live wheel has not been tested,
Who ever thinks that a live wheel and RNG is the same needs a reality check
No one serious plays on RNG. That is bound to fail. Epic Fail. RNG cannot be trusted... Why do you think everybody play on live wheels? Go figure? :/
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:22 PM 2012
Your not going to stalk me are you?
No, I just FLAT out don't believe you're from the UK! ;)
Tell me where you are from and maybe I'll know the area.
Roughy
Quote from: Steve on Dec 05, 04:33 PM 2012
I smell it too.
You smell it! Must be something wrong with your nose! It stink!
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 05, 04:41 PM 2012
No one serious plays on RNG. That is bound to fail. Epic Fail. RNG cannot be trusted... Why do you think everybody play on live wheels? Go figure? :/
Tell that to Ralph!!
In that respect, I should like to stand up for Scottydog. I belive he is acting in good faith. :thumbsup:
At least, let us give the benefit of the doubt and then we'll see.
Chacho, yo te creo, de verdad.
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 03:08 PM 2012
I gonna try to help you Scotty.
Look at the test XLS file, let me know if the conditions are right.
Just press "F9" it will renew the RNG numbers in the 13 sample spins.
Dont know if anyone else spotted this but the formula for the horizontal counts is wrong in your xls file. Easy to edit however.
But what with all the tracking and entering of numbers involved I reckon a furthur 6 numbers would have been spun (out of the next 13) before I could get to place any bets.
Is it possible to insert just the last spin into the bottom box and all the other 12 just move up a position to make room for it ........somehow?
Quote from: Roughy on Dec 05, 04:43 PM 2012
No, I just FLAT out don't believe you're from the UK! ;)
Tell me where you are from and maybe I'll know the area.
Roughy
Isle of wight
Quote from: jarabo002 on Dec 05, 04:50 PM 2012
In that respect, I should like to stand up for Scottydog. I belive he is acting in good faith. :thumbsup:
At least, let us give the benefit of the doubt and then we'll see.
Chacho, yo te creo, de verdad.
He is just making promotions for rng casinos, especially for that 1 in his video! Period!
Let the wheel spin! Them u know if the man is talking the true.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:55 PM 2012
Isle of wight
My auntie and uncle live in Newport, I've been there many times! Small world eh?! ;)
Roughy
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 04:57 PM 2012
Let the wheel spin! Them You know if the man is talking the true.
Wouldn't be surprised if you would be same person as he ........
I really thought most people on here know what there talking about clearly not.
RNG is not rigged,
There is a house edge, exacly the same on RNG and live wheel,
Why people think RNG cheats is this,
In one hour of play the RNG could spin thousands of spins,
On live wheel? A few hundred max.
All your doing on the live wheel is delaying the edge,
Infact your just stringing your money out longer,
So it feels like on a live wheel your winning but infact its the same except your just wasting time.
Im sure some casinos do fix their RNG but MOST casinos are safe, they just seem fixed but its false
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 04:55 PM 2012
Isle of wight
OOh lovely.....Black Gang Chine....Ferranti Bloddhound missile, Carisbrook castle...King Charles I
Shanklin...Cowes, Playing Cricket in the Solent once a year on the low low tide.
Know it well.
Quote from: Roughy on Dec 05, 04:58 PM 2012
My auntie and uncle live in Newport, I've been there many times! Small world eh?! ;)
Roughy
Very small, im near ventnor on very bottom ;)
Quote from: Turner on Dec 05, 05:02 PM 2012
OOh lovely.....Black Gang Chine....Ferranti Bloddhound missile, Carisbrook castle...King Charles Scammer I
Shanklin...Cowes, Playing Cricket in the Solent once a year on the low low tide.
Know it well.
LMAO.....it replaced C.h.a.rl.es I with Charles Scammer......how appropriate
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 05:03 PM 2012
Very small, I'm near ventnor on very bottom ;)
Thorness Bay Haven Holidays....
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 05:03 PM 2012
Very small, I'm near ventnor on very bottom ;)
I like the comedy "Keeping up attention" too....
I think some people are more interested in the drama rather than roulette. New ideas for systems are always welcome in my opinion, but they must be tested alot before you can say they work and you won 30 0000 $ No one will believe in that. (Especially playing on RNG roulette)...
Can you imagine how much money casinos have earned since he posted his threat under the title : This is what the casinos have feared! He is 1 of them people! Yes he is! :twisted:
Ok good laugh,
Now some please come and prove me wrong,
Prove me my system is a failure,
Anyway if you guys dont believe in a system why dont you just learn Visual Ballistics,
I used to do quite well but i got fed up with it, especially when companys lile castle casino stopped late betting on their live wheel!!
RNG fun mode and RNG real mode use completely different algorithms.
It's looking like this joker is getting the fuel he needs to.............
::)
Quote from: furple on Dec 05, 05:16 PM 2012
RNG fun mode and RNG real mode use completely different algorithms.
It's looking like this joker is getting the fuel he needs to.............
::)
You could be right there, but algorithms being different wouldnt matter, the systems are still seeded the same,
The system is about probabilty from the previous spins, the memory on RNG is the same.
Would make no difference.
Scottydog2012, start deleting all negative post in your thread, and show some real results of your gameplay. That would make things easier perhaps...
Visual ballistics on RNG is just insane imho. You can never know where the ball lands next.
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 05, 05:25 PM 2012
Scottydog2012, start deleting all negative post in your thread, and show some real results of your gameplay. That would make things easier perhaps...
Visual ballistics on RNG is just insane In My Humble Opinion. You can never know where the ball lands next.
No i used to play VB on a real wheel on castle casino few years ago, used to able to bet like 3-4 revs before the ball landed, very clear picture of the wheel too, they soon changed it,
Dont see why these negative people dont just play VB, but i prove my point again people dont want to put the work in?
Quote from: furple on Dec 05, 05:16 PM 2012
It's looking like this joker is getting the fuel he needs to.............
::)
He certainly is. Well, that's what forums are nowadays....And that's why the owners own them. Unfortunately.
Quote from: furple on Dec 05, 05:16 PM 2012
RNG fun mode and RNG real mode use completely different algorithms.
It's looking like this joker is getting the fuel he needs to.............
::)
I concur...
When i log into Will Hill free play ...the last numbers I was using are still there.
When I log into Will Hill real play, fresh set of numbers.
Somethings different
Visual ballistics on RNG? Is Tron playing roulette??? All those 0's and 1's make me too dizzy trying to figure it out....whe:: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ignatus on Dec 05, 05:25 PM 2012
Visual ballistics on RNG is just insane In My Humble Opinion. You can never know where the ball lands next.
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 05:22 PM 2012
You could be right there, but algorithms being different wouldnt matter, the systems are still seeded the same,
The system is about probabilty from the previous spins, the memory on RNG is the same.
Would make no difference.
RNG fun mode = come play with me…Yay look how much I'm winning. :)
RNG real mode =Real-time intelligent pattern recognition algorithm. >:(
RNG work on the same principal as slot machines.
Quote from: furple on Dec 05, 05:35 PM 2012
RNG fun mode = come play with me…Yay look how much I'm winning. :)
RNG real mode =Real-time intelligent pattern recognition algorithm. >:(
RNG work on the same principal as slot machines.
Ok, tell what casinos do that, and i will deposit make a recording now, and post the video up of REAL play!!!
Tell me a casino that cheats its RNG obviously a worthy casino,
Asuming its not one im already banned with so it cant be, Swiss, William Hill, Las Vegas, Grosvenor, paddy power and Bet365.
Heres a challenge.
I will deposit £100 and play for 1 hour just give me a reptuable casino that you believe rigged?
Then why does Ralph win at BV?
He posts screen shots of his account.
I believe him.
I am beginning--more and more each day--to believe FLATman.
Sam
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 05:41 PM 2012
Ok, tell what casinos do that, and i will deposit make a recording now, and post the video up of REAL play!!!
Tell me a casino that cheats its RNG obviously a worthy casino,
Asuming its not one I'm already banned with so it can't be, Swiss, William Hill, Las Vegas, Grosvenor, paddy power and Bet365.
Heres a challenge.
I will deposit £100 and play for 1 hour just give me a reptuable casino that you believe rigged?
Sic 'em, Dog! Geez, I love a good video. Can you get on BV?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 05, 05:43 PM 2012
Sic 'em, Dog! Geez, I love a good video. Can you get on BV?
Sam
Not completely with the lingo.
BV?
Enough said about RNG?? ;D
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 05, 05:43 PM 2012
Sic 'em, Dog! Geez, I love a good video. Can you get on BV?
Sam
Sam, I imagined you on the porch of a wooden house in a rocking chair when you said Sic 'em, Dog! Geez., Perhaps a big spit from chewing tobacco that hits an empty tin watering can with a "ping"!
(vivid imagination)
QuoteRNG fun mode = come play with me…Yay look how much I'm winning. (link:://rouletteforum.cc/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
RNG real mode =Real-time intelligent pattern recognition algorithm. :( " src="link:://rouletteforum.cc/Smileys/default/angry.gif (link:://rouletteforum.cc/Smileys/default/angry.gif)">
LOL, here we go again, PROOF furple, back it up with proof, other than you lost, that's not proof, but were not going to debate that here.
OK as far as I understand, heres what I have coded.
spin 13 times, counting red and black numbers
check which has least count and is least count greater than 0 (incase we had 13 red or 13 black) I have decided to spin until 1 of the opposite colour lands so I have some of each colour to use in the next step. (I noted you said you may just use the 13 reds, we need to know exactly what you would do here)
push lowest colours numbers to a temp array (will add other colours MISSING numbers to temp array next) so we now have all the numbers that need crossing off
Loop through temp array assigning each number to its column and dozen ending up with
example
da = 4
db = 2
dc = 7
same for columns
get highest value for dozens, check if its +2 of the next value down, to make sure it is 2 clear of the nearest rival value
same for columns
if both are eligable to bet I choose dozens ONLY (please confirm you do this too)
if neither are eligable, I rebuild and retrack (could be due to the 13 of a colour, answers please)
if we have one to bet on we bet on it 13 times, during which time we are capturing the next 13 numbers so when this 13 run attack ends the next can start on the already gathered numbers, rinse and repeat
Did I get it right? just need you to clarify the questions above please Scotty.
Attached results, enjoy, BVNZ RM 10300 spins and Skakus file 1 32000 european spins will do the other 32000 file tomorrow maybe
Quote from: superman on Dec 05, 05:59 PM 2012
LoL, here we go again, PROOF furple, back it up with proof, other than you lost, that's not proof, but were not going to debate that here.
OK as far as I understand, heres what I have coded.
spin 13 times, counting red and black numbers
check which has least count and is least count greater than 0 (incase we had 13 red or 13 black) I have decided to spin until 1 of the opposite colour lands so I have some of each colour to use in the next step. (I noted you said you may just use the 13 reds, we need to know exactly what you would do here)
push lowest colours numbers to a temp array (will add other colours MISSING numbers to temp array next) so we now have all the numbers that need crossing off
Loop through temp array assigning each number to its column and dozen ending up with
example
da = 4
db = 2
dc = 7
same for columns
get highest value for dozens, check if its +2 of the next value down, to make sure it is 2 clear of the nearest rival value
same for columns
if both are eligable to bet I choose dozens ONLY (please confirm you do this too)
if neither are eligable, I rebuild and retrack (could be due to the 13 of a colour, answers please)
if we have one to bet on we bet on it 13 times, during which time we are capturing the next 13 numbers so when this 13 run attack ends the next can start on the already gathered numbers, rinse and repeat
Did I get it right? just need you to clarify the questions above please Scotty.
Attached results, enjoy, BVNZ RM 10300 spins and Skakus file 1 32000 european spins will do the other 32000 file tomorrow maybe
If both are eligible it doesnt really matter in my opinion, sometimes i back both sometimes i stick to the dozen,
What are the difference in the 2 results, allitle confused but it show a profit just like i said it would ;)
Hello . . .
I coded a tracker in Excel and got most of the system down, enough to test it, anyways.
Like Superman, my results were positive.
I tested 4,000 13 Spin Sessions (52,000 spins) in Excel's RNG.
I had a flat bet profit of 111 units.
I will continue to test and report back.
Cheers
Nick
Quote from: ugly bob on Dec 05, 11:21 AM 2012
I got -4 using the third column with these numbers.
28
34
2
15
23
16
36
7
3
24
12
33
13
21
24
28
14
31
23
28
31
32
19
27
22
7
I gotta say I don't see why it should win but good luck anyway scottydog.
Maybe I didn't test it enough! :smile:
Quote from: superman on Dec 05, 05:59 PM 2012
LoL, here we go again, PROOF furple, back it up with proof, other than you lost, that's not proof, but were not going to debate that here.
Whoah dim Batman...take a chill pill. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Nickmsi on Dec 05, 06:16 PM 2012
Hello . . .
I coded a tracker in Excel and got most of the system down, enough to test it, anyways.
Like Superman, my results were positive.
I tested 4,000 13 Spin Sessions (52,000 spins) in Excel's RNG.
I had a flat bet profit of 111 units.
I will continue to test and report back.
Cheers
Nick
Thank your for your input,
All this computer stuff is comfusing, im a pen and paper man,
So your prooving exacly what ive said?
It works also,
Tomorrow i want to make sure 100% that its being play exacly right,
So the test 100% accurate.
Hi Scotty,
What would you bet here?
D1 6
D2 3
D3 6
C1 6
C2 6
C3 3
@nick,
...it's time you showed up to clear things up a little. Hopefully.
Ray
I finished the tracker in XLS, so guys let's test it.
This is my gift to you Scooty, i always like to help people, i do what i can!
Give a man a chance to proof is talking the truth :thumbsup:
Just input the numbers draw in the yellow field.
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 05, 06:40 PM 2012
I finished the tracker in XLS, so guys let's test it.
This is my gift to you Scooty, i always like to help people, i do what i can!
Give a man a chance to proof is talking the truth :thumbsup:
How long does the test take?
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 06:42 PM 2012
How long does the test take?
Input the 13 numbers in the yellow field then,
please Scott compare the paper version with the XLS, verify if u aplly the same bets.
This XLS is not a test runner! It only show the column or dozen to bet when u input the numbers draw.
If is correct i will adapt to run the test
Played again since long an a RNG, with real money.. (playtech) 11 sessions, 13 spins.
Minimum bet 0.5 unit, lost 32 units...
Maybe i do play it wrong, but i think not...
In short, cross the numbers of the coldest color, cross the numbers not hit from the hotest color. Count number of crosses in column and dozen, take highest, prefered witha difference of 2 to the next high count
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Dec 05, 06:52 PM 2012
Played again since long an a RNG, with real money.. (playtech) 11 sessions, 13 spins.
Minimum bet 0.5 unit, lost 32 units...
Maybe i do play it wrong, but i think not...
In short, cross the numbers of the coldest color, cross the numbers not hit from the hotest color. Count number of crosses in column and dozen, take highest, prefered witha difference of 2 to the next high count
Maybe your doing something wrong? Or just grind it out and if it is right you will pick it back up and make a profit,
Its in profit on a test of 4,000 spins on the page before this...
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Dec 05, 06:52 PM 2012
Played again since long an a RNG, with real money.. (playtech) 11 sessions, 13 spins.
Minimum bet 0.5 unit, lost 32 units...
Maybe i do play it wrong, but i think not...
In short, cross the numbers of the coldest color, cross the numbers not hit from the hotest color. Count number of crosses in column and dozen, take highest, prefered witha difference of 2 to the next high count
Just re-read your post and notice you wrote- take highest prefered with a difference of 2...
If it doesnt have a difference of 2, Dont bet, re-track another 13spins...
Another update . . .
Here's how I am playing this.
I am using a No Zero Excel RNG option.
My Excel Tracker shows 8 (13 spins) sessions per sheet.
I use a Stop Loss of (-15) per sheet (104 spins or 8 sessions)
Total sessions tested: 12,000 or 156,000 spins
Total Flat Bet Profits: 821 Units.
As this if Flat Betting, I have incurred several runs of losses but this seems to come back with several runs of wins.
My next step is to put this into our Excel Bot and and let it run it against the BVNZ casino numbers in Demo mode.
Will keep you all posted.
Nick
Orochi I just used your your Tracker in Exel but everytime i input the data all the numbers turn zero ? does this mean I am inserting the wrong numbers or ?
Quote from: Turner on Dec 05, 05:55 PM 2012
Sam, I imagined you on the porch of a wooden house in a rocking chair when you said Sic 'em, Dog! Geez., Perhaps a big spit from chewing tobacco that hits an empty tin watering can with a "ping"!
(vivid imagination)
No can needed; I just spit in the wind! (Hey, aren't we all??)
Dog
I mean........make the video. Can you get onto Bet Voyager?
Sorry.
I speak Oklahoma Redneck.
Sam
Quote from: Post on Dec 05, 09:04 PM 2012
Orochi I just used your your Tracker in Exel but everytime i input the data all the numbers turn zero ? does this mean I am inserting the wrong numbers or ?
Answer to your question: When the numbers turn zero means no bet chance!
I just modify the XLS file, for mode easy user.
The tracker board indicate if You can bet or not.
I´m working in a loop for test mode the XLS
The test is progress, rolling 1M spins! Based on RNG in Excel i can tell the man was talking the true! The profit keep rising and rising!
...
Scotty
Take it from one who has just been mashed FLAT!! It is of the utmost importance that at least one person totally and completely understands your rules. Otherwise, it will all get lost.
That is the most important thing!
Sam
Hi Folks,
I have just tested this system against 1 million Excel single zero RNG numbers.
I only bet on dozens, and I always track for 13 spins and then if possible, play for 13 more.
BETS: 285098
RESULT: -8216
EXPECTED -7697.646
As you can see, it does worse than expected. Nothing special here.
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 06, 12:04 AM 2012
The test is progress, rolling 1M spins! Based on RNG in Excel i can tell the man was talking the true! The profit keep rising and rising!
...
Sorry my data was faulty! I must apologize for my error.
Test in XLS prove to be a total "FIASCO"
U can test in the attach XLS
How can your data be faulty?? Is it not an internal RNG?
I am hearing some very strange things about this thread!!
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 03, 05:42 PM 2012
Hi everyone, this is the real deal.
This is the system you've all been waiting for,
And guess what its free, all it requires is a little effort and the determination to beat the casinos.
Firstly, just a brief description, I've been studying roulette for nearly 7 years.
I have spent between 6-16hours a day trying to find a way to beat it,
I check this site everyday but have finally decided to sign up and give you guys method.
Ok here it is...
Its a FLAT Betting method and it works!
We track 13 spins, (without betting)
So these are the numbers shown.
12
1
7
18
2
19
11
2
36
28
29
23
3
Now we split the results into 2 groups, red and black.
Out of the two groups, the colour with the least shown becomes our first selection.
So we write down 29, 28, 2,2
Now we write down all the red numbers that didn't come out,
Which are 5, 7, 9, 14,16,21,23,25,27,30,32,34
Now we have 16 numbers in total,
To make things simple, copy the layout of the roulette table.
Cross of all the 16. Numbers, number to repeated so make 2 crossed on that number.
Now what we do it count how many are marked off in the dozens and collums.
So..
Collum A- 4
Collum B-7
Collum C-5
Dozen 1-5
Dozen 2-4
Dozen 3-7
Now what we are looking for is either a dozen or collum which has atleast 2 more marks in it.
So collum b and dozen 3 are perfect.
We only bet one of the two.
So stick to either a collum or dozen.
don't bet both, keep things simple just stick to one.
We now flat bet the selection for 13 spins.
Even if we win the first spin, we keep flat betting for 13 spins.
It is that simple, you will be amazed!
A few other things...
If zero shows during tracking 13 spins, just ignore it.
Never bet zero.
After tracking 13 spins make sure That either red or black has come out more than the other.
Example... 8 Blacks 7 Reds
Stick at it, don't give up, trust me at the end of your betting day, you will be in profit every single time.
Enjoy
So you study the game for 7 years and around 6 to 16 hours a day and this is what you create.
Well welcome to the forum you are for sure in the right place.
I just find it hard how pepole can spend so much time and come up with a random method.
It just should strike every mind that if the numbers are random and the past does not influense the futere - then all methods who try is also random bet selections as it does not matter what you bet.
Quote from: Timekey369 on Dec 05, 06:36 PM 2012
Hi Scotty,
What would you bet here?
D1 6
D2 3
D3 6
C1 6
C2 6
C3 3
I wouldnt bet, re-track until theres a gap of 2
Why is everyone so hard on this guy? He hasn't asked for a contribution.
Whether or not he is betting real money, I don't know. And--sure--he can make a dozen videos until he gets one he likes.........
Since he is the moderator of his thread, I would not fault him if he took down every post and wrote "F.O." in the first one.
Have we so soon forgotten FLATman? Does anyone even look to see what his system is doing? Up nearly 2,500 units in a provable test. I remember people wanting to hang him from the tallest tree. I would not be surprised to see his LvF system actually be a long-term winner.
The Dog may have one, too.
That's me rant for the day...........
Sam
Quote from: Nickmsi on Dec 05, 07:42 PM 2012
Another update . . .
Here's how I am playing this.
I am using a No Zero Excel RNG option.
My Excel Tracker shows 8 (13 spins) sessions per sheet.
I use a stop-loss of (-15) per sheet (104 spins or 8 sessions)
Total sessions tested: 12,000 or 156,000 spins
Total Flat Bet Profits: 821 Units.
As this if Flat Betting, I have incurred several runs of losses but this seems to come back with several runs of wins.
My next step is to put this into our Excel Bot and and let it run it against the BVNZ casino numbers in Demo mode.
Will keep you all posted.
Nick
When you say stop loss at -15 per sheet please explain fully because those profits look bigger than mine,
So if you can make this even more profitable than i am great!
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 06, 12:04 AM 2012
The test is progress, rolling 1M spins! Based on RNG in Excel i can tell the man was talking the true! The profit keep rising and rising!
...
Well im very please that someone is backing up my claims, good work! ;)
Quote from: LuckoftheIrish on Dec 06, 01:12 AM 2012
Hi Folks,
I have just tested this system against 1 million Excel single zero RNG numbers.
I only bet on dozens, and I always track for 13 spins and then if possible, play for 13 more.
BETS: 285098
RESULT: -8216
EXPECTED -7697.646
As you can see, it does worse than expected. Nothing special here.
Always betting on dozens would make a loss,
Why would you lose of you stuck to just Dozens.
You bet what applies so if a collumn has more marke of than the dozens its obvious u will lose in the long run,
Dont just stick to dozens!
You bet what applies, than run the tests again and im 100% sure your show a profit
@ orichi
I didn't have the same results with my excel file
ludo8400
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 06, 04:08 AM 2012
@ orichi
I didn't have the same results with my excel file
ludo8400
What are your results?
Scotty,
Thank you for your new system,
You suggest using Black/Red in tracking the 1st 13 numbers, have you tried using the other EC EVEN/ODD in tracking to have better result? I ask because only column A has same Black/Red nos , column B: 8Black&4Red, column C:8Red&4Black, but 3 columns have the same EVEN/ODD nos.
thanks
Quote from: intermax on Dec 06, 05:12 AM 2012
Scotty,
Thank you for your new system,
You suggest using Black/Red in tracking the 1st 13 numbers, have you tried using the other EC EVEN/ODD in tracking to have better result? I ask because only column A has same Black/Red nos , column B: 8Black&4Red, column C:8Red&4Black, but 3 columns have the same EVEN/ODD nos.
thanks
Thank you for your message,
I have not tried it, i will run a test this afternoon,
But it could return a better profit who knows?
But so far what im using works well
QuoteWhoah dim Batman...take a chill pill
No problem furple, was just pointing out that the OP has made half a million pounds on RNG do you still think they cheat?
Quoteincase we had 13 red or 13 black, I have decided to spin until 1 of the opposite colour lands so I have some of each colour to use in the next step. (I noted you said you may just use the 13 reds, we need to know exactly what you would do here)
What would you do in the above case
Quoteif both are eligable to bet I choose dozens ONLY (please confirm you do this too)
You said
QuoteIf both are eligible it doesn't really matter in my opinion, sometimes i back both sometimes i stick to the dozen
Do you want me to re-test betting both if the opportunity arises?
You said
QuoteIf it doesn't have a difference of 2, don't bet, re-track another 13 spins...
Then you said
QuoteI wouldnt bet, re-track until theres a gap of 2
So in both the above statements are you saying retrack for 13 spins exactly?
Quotehave you tried using the other EC EVEN/ODD in tracking to have better result?
LOL intermax, isn't half a million pounds good enough?
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 05:27 AM 2012
No problem furple, was just pointing out that the OP has made half a million pounds on RNG do you still think they cheat?
What would you do in the above case
You said
Do you want me to re-test betting both if the opportunity arises?
You said
Then you said
So in both the above statements are you saying retrack for 13 spins exactly?
LoL intermax, isn't half a million pounds good enough?
It makes no difference which column or dozen, if they both apply bet both,
Have you made some tests and what are your results?
QuoteHave you made some tests and what are your results?
ok let's concentrate on betvoyager no zero, 10300 spins real money numbers, captured by myself so I know they are true/correct.
Yesterday I ran, as you know, if both col and doz are eligable I would just bet dozens
Results over 10300 spins was Cash 110 Peak 140 (Peak means it went that high at one point, Cash was the ending balance)
Just rejigged the bot to bet cols and dozens IF they are both eligable, lol, see attached, you can clearly see when it bet both as the gap between
Session End #################################
will be 26 lines as opposed to 13 lines, going to run it against skakus1 file now and will post it up in a bit
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 05:53 AM 2012
ok let's concentrate on betvoyager no zero, 10300 spins real money numbers, captured by myself so I know they are true/correct.
Yesterday I ran, as you know, if both col and doz are eligable I would just bet dozens
Results over 10300 spins was Cash 110 Peak 140 (Peak means it went that high at one point, Cash was the ending balance)
Just rejigged the bot to bet cols and dozens IF they are both eligable, LoL, see attached, you can clearly see when it bet both as the gap between
Session End #################################
will be 26 lines as opposed to 13 lines, going to run it against skakus1 file now and will post it up in a bit
Wow the profit of +830 is a huge difference!
I know it works and i think you can see it does too,
Could you run the same results of 1million spins?
Superman
Just to confirm, playing it Scottys way , you ended +830 in 10,000 spins?
Cheers
BW
So by the looks of you're testing Superman, there is method to the madness?
QuoteSuperman
Just to confirm, playing it Scottys way , you ended +830 in 10,000 spins?
If that's what's printed to the file, that's the results BW, just running skakus 30000 euro wheel numbers, will post it up in a few minutes
EDIT: ok skakus1 file betting both if they are both ready to bet, yesterdays results were
Cash -132 Peak 75 as you can see, a clear loss, see attached for betting both LoL
Now running the other skakus file, another 30000 spins, will post up when done
Superman...
Thank you very much for the input...
All i can say is i told you so!
Now im pretty sure there alot of memebers on this forum who owe me an appology??
QuoteSuperman...
Thank you very much for the input...
No problem mate, this is what we do here, wild clames get flack, that always happens, so we test until the cows come home, to prove or disprove a method.
QuoteNow I'm pretty sure there a lot of members on this forum who owe me an appology??
Good luck with that, their a hard bunch
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 06:16 AM 2012
No problem mate, this is what we do here, wild clames get flack, that always happens, so we test until the cows come home, to prove or disprove a method.
Good luck with that, their a hard bunch
So just for the record...
Would you write in full exactly both methods you have tested, with both of their results.
Just so im 100% clear that its been done exacltly right,
Also, you now belive it works right?
Uh oh, dont get too happy, made a mistake in the code, I was only subtracting 1 unit per bet, I didnt change it to subtract 2 units IF betting both, the results will change, sorry for the error guys, will re-run all 3 sets of numbers.
Ok as I said above, sorry if it created any excitement but the bank was not calculating properly, I have now completely re-checked the code and can confirm the calculations are correct, BV NZ still came out ahead but skakus1 file lost badly, this concludes my tests, sorry Scotty but it's not as good as we/you thought. I am sure I am doing the bet selection as per your rules, that's why I ask loads of questions. I added your extra rules this morning regarding betting both. The only thing I am unsure of is
What if you get 13 reds or 13 blacks, currently I spin UNTIL I have 12 of one and 1 of the other atleast then check for a bet. What do you do?
Superman,
The Skakus test ended on a losing note but what if it had another 10K or 30 K spins? Might it have recovered again?
Going through the test it had several dips and then recovered, only if it was by 1 unit.
My feeling is that the test stopped in the middle of a dip, not giving it a chance to recovery.
Any thoughts on this?
"When you say stop-loss at -15 per sheet please explain fully because those profits look bigger than mine,
So if you can make this even more profitable than i am great!"
Scotty . . .
Here's how I set up my Testing Tracker:
1. 13 Spins is defined as a "Session"
2. 8 Sessions of 13 spins makes a "Game" (104 Spins)
3. I set my per "Game" Profit Target at "unlimited" and my Stop Loss at (-15)
4. If I hit the Stop Loss, I stop the current "Game" and start a new one.
I find it easier to spot both winning and losing trends over 104 spins rather than just 13.
Kindly remember, we are in the TESTING STAGE and that means no decision has been made on the merits of this method. Members who test a lot, like myself, Superman, Mr. Ore, Ego, Ralph, Stef, etc will do their best to both understand the system and to code it accordingly. We will make mistakes but that is what we do in the Testing Stage.
Us old salts know that it is a rare, some would say nonexistent, that any method will beat random, however, I believe we all can learn something from every try and isn't knowledge a reward in itself?
Enough ramblings, the TESTING continues with an Excel Bot verses BVNZ demo version.
Nick
QuoteMy feeling is that the test stopped in the middle of a dip, not giving it a chance to recovery
Possibly AMK BUT 30000 is a lot of spins, yes I also noticed it recovered and gained 1 unit at one point, problem is how many more spins would/could it take to get ahead again? manually you won't do 10000 spins in a day so as this was 30000 that was 3 days in the negative.
@ Nickmsi, I don't understand why you are running 8 sessions, this should be tested continuous as the OP stated you just keep going.
Tracker in EXCEL on selection ODD/ EVEN
ludo8400
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 03:59 AM 2012
Have we so soon forgotten FLATman? Does anyone even look to see what his system is doing? Up nearly 2,500 units in a provable test. I remember people wanting to hang him from the tallest tree. I would not be surprised to see his LvF system actually be a long-term winner.
Who is FLATman? F_LAT_INO?
Quote from: marivo on Dec 06, 07:32 AM 2012
Who is FLATman? F_LAT_INO?
one liar and a former member of the forum
Quote from: speed on Dec 06, 07:35 AM 2012
one liar and a former member of the forum
So no F_LAT_INO, right?
Maybe this system could work with BVNZ
Quote from: marivo on Dec 06, 07:39 AM 2012
So no F_LAT_INO, right?
he is flatino and have 3-4 different name here, why?
I see your point Superman. A bot should be able to do 24,000 spins in a day I think. This is 40 spins per minute 10 hours per day.
We should also take note of reply #60 Spin4Fun contribution.
"I have been testing this on paper with Dublinbet, incase betting on column or dozen, its more session in loss then profit. BUT if you bet the numbers crossed in the selected column or dozen, i end up in an overall profit."
A small test most likely but with positive results in a negative session.
Quote from: speed on Dec 06, 07:45 AM 2012
he is F_LAT_INO and have 3-4 different name here, why?
I know him as F_LAT_INO . You call him liar? Have no idea why, but i do know you can't compare him with this joker here!
OK Guys, my opinion is, so far against BV NZ it seems to hold its own flat betting, against 30000 european spins provided by Skakus, it fails everytime, well, it ends in a minus that is, in my opinion, a fail.
I've just added a simple progression and run it through the BVNZ spins
Highest progression used = 27 units
Biggest drawdown reached = -108 units
End results = Cash 730 Peak 774 progression was at 5 units at this point, I ran out of spin numbers, file attached, I am now going to run the same progression through Skakus file 1
Quote from: marivo on Dec 06, 07:51 AM 2012
I know him as F_LAT_INO . You call him liar? Have no idea why, but i do know you can't compare him with this joker here!
surely i can not, he a lot worse than this joker here, but enough about him, and you have not been some time on the forum, you missed a few things
GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS
OK i dont know where to start,
Does this site have a chat line, because i really need to have a indebth conversation so we can make sure we get this spot,
If not could we meet at a time on a online chat room of some sort,
i think theres something thats not being done correctly, if the system is working with no zero,
Than if you believe your coding everything correctly and its showing a loss why dont you just bet zero every time you make a bet on the dozen or column....
still i believe there is something missed but its so difficult to talk on here where theres a different post every 10mins
keep up the good work!!
all irrelevant topics are now being deleted, lets keep this professional now people.
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 07:55 AM 2012
OK Guys, my opinion is, so far against BV NZ it seems to hold its own flat betting, against 30000 european spins provided by Skakus, it fails everytime, well, it ends in a minus that is, in my opinion, a fail.
I've just added a simple progression and run it through the BVNZ spins
Highest progression used = 27 units
Biggest drawdown reached = -108 units
End results = Cash 730 Peak 774 progression was at 5 units at this point, I ran out of spin numbers, file attached, I am now going to run the same progression through Skakus file 1
how are you running this progression, please explain...
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 05, 11:55 AM 2012
I started in january this year, £50 i deposited.
I know bet £200 a spin
I have £580,000 cash in the bank.
£33,000 in my ladbrokes account and i will take a screen shot of my REAL balance and post it up.
Quote
I have played around 85,000 spins.
Hi Scottydog,
How many
UNITS did you make in 85,000 spins? ? ? ?
@Scottydog
why you still have not post any evidence like fast screen shot which you promised, please explain...
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 03:17 AM 2012
How can your data be faulty?? Is it not an internal RNG?
I am hearing some very strange things about this thread!!
data = formulas
Sorry for my english.
Quotehow are you running this progression, please explain...
If bank less than peak reached after a 13 spin session, add 1 unit to the progression, if at any point bank is ahead of previous peak reset progression to 1 unit.
Works on BV but fails again on skakus 30000 spins, well, it doesn't fail but the progression gets ballistic as does the drawdown, so either I am codeing it wrong or it doesn't do what it says on the tin, sorry Scotty, this concludes my testing.
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 08:47 AM 2012
If bank less than peak reached after a 13 spin session, add 1 unit to the progression, if at any point bank is ahead of previous peak reset progression to 1 unit.
Works on BV but fails again on skakus 30000 spins, well, it doesn't fail but the progression gets ballistic as does the drawdown, so either I am codeing it wrong or it doesn't do what it says on the tin, sorry Scotty, this concludes my testing.
do you have the results for skakus progression?
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 08:47 AM 2012
Works on BV but fails again on skakus 30000 spins, well, it doesn't fail but the progression gets ballistic as does the drawdown, so either I am codeing it wrong or it doesn't do what it says on the tin, sorry Scotty, this concludes my testing.
maybe skakus numbers are faluty?
Quotedo you have the results for skakus progression?
No, I deleted them, they looked real scary though
Quotemaybe skakus numbers are faluty?
Possibly, they could have been faulty too :thumbsup: as well as faluty lol
Quote from: soggett on Dec 06, 08:55 AM 2012
maybe skakus numbers are faluty?
Exactly what im think,
@superman,
i have a feeling skakus numbers could not be legitatmate, try coding it covering the zero every spin
so 1 unit on the dozen or column whilst 0.03 units on zero?
Dear Forum,
Performed 13 test base on Orochi's tracker with RX numbers
Out of 13 test, I only able to bet for 3 spin (1 profit and 2 loss)
End up with -13 Loss
Not sure if the tracker is working or not.
Anyway, I will build my own tracker and perform new test.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
| Test | Bet | Profit/Loss |
| 1 | No Bets Chance |
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| 2 | No Bets Chance |
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| 3 | Column A | +2 |
| 4 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 5 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 6 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 7 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 8 | Column A, Dozen 3 | -11 |
| 9 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 10 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 11 | Dozen 1 | -4 |
| 12 | No Bets Chance |
|
| 13 | No Bets Chance |
|
| Total Profit / Loss | -13 |
Quotetry coding it covering the zero every spin
so 1 unit on the dozen or column whilst 0.03 units on zero?
Sure, send me £500 of your small fortune and I will code for 2 weeks for you, if not then someone else can take over, I've spent 2 days on it, I have paying work to do, sorry
Quote from: speed on Dec 06, 08:31 AM 2012
@Scottydog
why you still have not post any evidence like fast screen shot which you promised, please explain...
Only answering the questions you wish Scotty ?
Or did you miss the one above ?
O0
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 09:01 AM 2012
Possibly, they could have been faulty too :thumbsup: as well as faluty LoL
loool, didn't see my typo :D :D :D :D
Can somebody teach me how to code etc...
I will pay you for your time,
That way i can make sure the system works and show everybody
QuoteCan somebody teach me how to code etc...
I will pay you for your time,
It will be cheaper to just send me £500 and I will code for you, it will take you a long time to learn to code fella, whats £500 from your half million? peanuts I'll be the code monkey for ya
PS still would like to see that screenshot of yours with your account balance around £33,000
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 09:25 AM 2012
It will be cheaper to just send me £500 and I will code for you, it will take you a long time to learn to code fella, what's £500 from your half million? peanuts I'll be the code monkey for ya
PS still would like to see that screenshot of yours with your account balance around £33,000
Lets do it, but i want to make sure that everything is exatly accurate, i will upload screen shot later i am out all day today and posting from my mobile phone
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 09:25 AM 2012
It will be cheaper to just send me £500 and I will code for you, it will take you a long time to learn to code.
Another scam, of a sort.
Better to learn to "fish for yourself", say at link:://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi (link:://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi) . Very-easy computer language to learn; and with many applications in general. (Every thing's free there, even the help.)
Quote from: GARNabby on Dec 06, 09:36 AM 2012
Another scam, of a sort.
Better to learn to "fish for yourself", say at link:://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi (link:://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi) . Very-easy computer language to learn; and with many applications in general. (Every thing's free there, even the help.)
couldnt find anything on that site?
QuoteAnother scam, of a sort.
LOL, I was just replying to him asking me to change this do that etc, I've done all Iam going to for free, we gotta eat too.
It's the OPs' choice what he does, there's no scam Garnaby, it's all totally upfront
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 06, 09:41 AM 2012
couldnt find anything on that site?
Download the free BASIC-compiler v1.01 at link:://:.justbasic.com/download.html (link:://:.justbasic.com/download.html) . The help-guide comes with. Especially-useful is the "command reference" section.
P.S. Just toy around with one, or two, commands at a time, in the editor window of the compiler. (The blue triangle, if i recall, at the top of the editor, will run the commands.) You'll be so-much more satisfied in even the short-term with being able to do all your own tweaks, etc. Compared with the pain of having to "undo" some one else's programming.)
Quote from: GARNabby on Dec 06, 09:47 AM 2012
Download the free BASIC-compiler v1.01 at link:://:.justbasic.com/download.html (link:://:.justbasic.com/download.html) . The help-guide comes with. Especially-useful is the "command reference" section.
P.S. Just toy around with one, or two, commands at a time, in the editor window of the compiler. (The blue triangle, if i recall, at the top of the editor, will run the commands.) You'll be so-much more satisfied in even the short-term with being able to do all your own tweaks, etc. Compared with the pain of having to "undo" some one else's programming.)
I will download when i get to pc, thanks
Is anyone out there winning with the system??
Dear Forum,
Tested with an excel sheet I created for 13 session in RX
Not sure what went wrong.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
| Test | Bet | Profit/Loss |
| 1 | Column 3 | -1 |
| 2 | Column 2 | -1 |
| 3 | Dozen 1 | +5 |
| 4 | Dozen 2 | -1 |
| 5 | Dozen 1, Column 1 | -5 |
| 6 | Column 1 | +5 |
| 7 | Column 3 | -1 |
| 8 | Dozen 2 | +2 |
| 9 | Column 1 | -3 |
| 10 | No Bets |
|
| 11 | No Bets |
|
| 12 | Column 1 | -4 |
| 13 | Dozen 3, Column 3 | -9 |
| Total Profit/Loss
| -17 |
Quote from: NoBody on Dec 06, 10:11 AM 2012
Dear Forum,
Tested with an excel sheet I created for 13 session in RX
Not sure what went wrong.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
| Test | Bet | Profit/Loss |
| 1 | Column 3 | -1 |
| 2 | Column 2 | -1 |
| 3 | Dozen 1 | +5 |
| 4 | Dozen 2 | -1 |
| 5 | Dozen 1, Column 1 | -5 |
| 6 | Column 1 | +5 |
| 7 | Column 3 | -1 |
| 8 | Dozen 2 | +2 |
| 9 | Column 1 | -3 |
| 10 | No Bets |
|
| 11 | No Bets |
|
| 12 | Column 1 | -4 |
| 13 | Dozen 3, Column 3 | -9 |
| Total Profit/Loss
| -17 |
Try it covering zero every bet, if zero comes out ignore the spin.
so if in the betting 13 spins if zero comes out once, do one extra spin so your backing 14 spins.
so 1 unit on dozen/column 0.03 units on zero.
if that doesnt work you are definately doing something wrong
Scotty,
Dont want to be an A**h*le :-)
But you claim that you send from your mobile phone ? right ??
In my picture that i attached you'll see a red square.
If you send from your phone that should be a mobile phone picture and not some sheets ;-)
Stef
ScottyDog
If I can understand your rules, I can make a video with sound and explain it.
Let me see if I got it:
1. Track 13 spins and ignore zeros.
2. Count red vs black.
3. Which ever is smaller, write those numbers that came on a paper. (These we call "smaller.")
4. Look at the numbers that came for the other color. (These we call "larger.")
5. Take a list of numbers containing all larger, and mark off those that came in the 13 spin test.
6. We now have "the smaller that came" and "the larger that did not come" in our lists.
7. We mark these on a carpet so we can see what columns/dozens they fall into.
8. Repeats and three-peats are marked as two and three.
9. We look for a dozen or column that has a +2 advantage over the other two. If none exists, no bet. If tie, pick either.
10. When you have established the column/dozen with the most marks, bet it for 13 spins flat betting.
If those are the rules---and ALL of the rules---I can use Bet Voyager and make a video.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 10:35 AM 2012
ScottyDog
If I can understand your rules, I can make a video with sound and explain it.
Let me see if I got it:
1. Track 13 spins and ignore zeros.
2. Count red vs black.
3. Which ever is smaller, write those numbers that came on a paper. (These we call "smaller.")
4. Look at the numbers that came for the other color. (These we call "larger.")
5. Take a list of numbers containing all larger, and mark off those that came in the 13 spin test.
6. We now have "the smaller that came" and "the larger that did not come" in our lists.
7. We mark these on a carpet so we can see what columns/dozens they fall into.
8. Repeats and three-peats are marked as two and three.
9. We look for a dozen or column that has a +2 advantage over the other two. If none exists, no bet. If tie, pick either.
10. When you have established the column/dozen with the most marks, bet it for 13 spins flat betting.
If those are the rules---and ALL of the rules---I can use Bet Voyager and make a video.
Sam
If both are eligable to play, play both of them
apart from that i think youve got it,
IF its not working..... Cover zero for 0.03 units and when zero comes out during betting ignore it and bet one extra spin.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 06, 10:35 AM 2012
ScottyDog
Let me see if I got it:
5. Take a list of numbers containing all larger, and mark off those that came in the 13 spin test.
is the word NOT not missing in , and mark off those that <NOT> came in the 13 spin test. ?
Dear Forum,
My 3rd test of 13 sessions with RX numbers
This time covering zero
Zero did not come but the test is in profit this time.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
| Test | Bet | Profit/Loss |
| 1 | Dozen 2 | 5.64 |
| 2 | No Bets | 0 |
| 3 | No Bets | 0 |
| 4 | No Bets | 0 |
| 5 | Dozen 3 | 8.64 |
| 6 | Column 2 | 10.61 |
| 7 | No Bets | 0 |
| 8 | No Bets | 0 |
| 9 | No Bets | 0 |
| 10 | Dozen 3 | -4.39 |
| 11 | Dozen 2 | -4.39 |
| 12 | No Bets | 0 |
| 13 | No Bets | 0 |
| Total Profit/Loss | 16.11 |
Quote from: Spin4Fun on Dec 06, 10:44 AM 2012
is the word NOT not missing in , and mark off those that <NOT> came in the 13 spin test. ?
WELL SPOTTED! NOT NOT NOT NOT IS NEEDED THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Superman can you check the xls file that i post and check if all conditions for betting are right?
QuoteSuperman can you check the xls file that i post
I use open office, dont have excel, sorry
apart from that i think youve got it,
IF its not working.....
Scotty
Here is where you are losing the forum. You have made all this money. When you use the words "i think", we have ask---Hell, he's made half a million and he doesn't know for sure??? Now, if you're on the road working--don't sweat it. Wait 'till you have time and let me know for absolute certain.
And.........IF...........what's this? Why an IF?
The casinos don't fear IF.
Sam
We need some french guy stranger to come in and endorse this system. Thats all the proof I need.
Turner
I think that every owner of a casino so far received triple heart attack because of fear of this system.:)
I guess that this guy just wants to test his system (to someone coded it for him) for free, that's the whole story. Topic have 16 pages because there are a lot of naive people here.
Quote from: speed on Dec 06, 11:21 AM 2012
I think that every owner of a casino so far received triple heart attack because of fear of this system.:)
I guess that this guy just wants to test his system (to someone coded it for him) for free, that's the whole story. Topic have 16 pages because there are a lot of naive people here.
Incorrect my friend!
I have nothing more to say to you so i will be deleting your posts
did u delete that from your mobile phone ;D
I think that every owner of a casino so far received triple heart attack because of fear of this system.:)
I guess that this guy just wants to test his system (to someone coded it for him) for free, that's the whole story. Topic have 16 pages because there are a lot of naive people here.
I think that every owner of a casino so far received triple heart attack because of fear of this system.:)
I guess that this guy just wants to test his system (to someone coded it for him) for free, that's the whole story. Topic have 16 pages because there are a lot of naive people here.
Hmmm... I seem to be winning alot more covering Zero with a slight progression,
I am 45 units up in a hour....
scottydog... have you tried other online casinos? Or are you using the same? I am thinking that maybe it's the online casino that have a fault in the rng causing it to work for you.
and do someone have a number filelist from the rng being used by scottydog?
Quote from: GamblerMickey on Dec 06, 12:36 PM 2012
scottydog... have you tried other online casinos? Or are you using the same? I am thinking that maybe it's the online casino that have a fault in the rng causing it to work for you.
and do someone have a number filelist from the rng being used by scottydog?
I am using Ladbrokes at the moment give it a try,
Can anyone test over 1 million RNG SPINS European and no zero?
(link:://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1875/84176364.jpg)
Scotty
1. Track 13 spins and ignore zeros.
2. Count red vs black.
Red: 3
Black: 10
3. Which ever is smaller, write those numbers that came on a paper. (These we call "smaller.")
4. Look at the numbers that came for the other color. (These we call "larger.")
5. Take a list of numbers containing all larger, and mark off those that came in the 13 spin test.
6. We now have "the smaller that came" and "the larger that did not come" in our lists.
7. We mark these on a carpet so we can see what columns/dozens they fall into.
Represented in Carpet Figure A
8. Repeats and three-peats are marked as two and three.
9. We look for a dozen or column that has a +2 advantage over the other two. If none exists, no bet. If tie, pick either.
10. When you have established the column/dozen with the most marks, bet it for 13 spins flat betting.
The final bet are marked in Carpet Figure B
This is right ???
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 06, 01:24 AM 2012
Sorry my data was faulty! I must apologize for my error.
Test in XLS prove to be a total "FIASCO"
You can test in the attach XLS
Are you saying the attached xls is faulty and gives bad results...
If so, that is Ok with me cos I will reguard it to be a winner by betting the exact opposite of what the tracker predicts....
Scotty
The XLS file instructions:
(link:://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5684/80135048.jpg)
1. Track 13 spins and ignore zeros.
2. Count red vs black.
3. Which ever is smaller, write those numbers that came on a paper. (These we call "smaller.")
4. Look at the numbers that came for the other color. (These we call "larger.")
5. Take a list of numbers containing all larger, and mark off those that came in the 13 spin test.
6. We now have "the smaller that came" and "the larger that did not come" in our lists.
7. We mark these on a carpet so we can see what columns/dozens they fall into.
8. Repeats and three-peats are marked as two and three.
9. We look for a dozen or column that has a +2 advantage over the other two. If none exists, no bet. If tie, pick either.
10. When you have established the column/dozen with the most marks, bet it for 13 spins flat betting.
RESUMING: all u need to do is input the 13 numbers in the TRACK SPINS. Them the XLS do the work for u.
QuoteIf tie, pick either
The OP said play both at the same time if they both qualify, thats how I understood him
« Reply #235 @ ORICHI 15 AND 24 BLACK must also put a spot on A
ludo8400
@ ORoCHI
in your reply WITH YOUR TRACKER STIL MISSING 24 AND 15 SO column 3=6 and column 2= 7
NOT a bet on column 2 because just 1 difference and your bet on DOZ 2.
:)
Ludo8400
Is any one profiting here?
Of Both Dozens and Collumns apply.. Back both for 13 spins!
Mark all the colored numbers that have shown the least,
If a number has come out more than once... Example 34, 34 make sure u put 2 marks.
The color with the most shown, ignore them and mark the remaing numbers of that color.
Quote from: rolf-harris on Dec 06, 02:26 PM 2012
Are you saying the attached xls is faulty and gives bad results...
If so, that is Ok with me cos I will reguard it to be a winner by betting the exact opposite of what the tracker predicts....
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 06, 02:44 PM 2012
« Reply #235 @ ORICHI 15 AND 24 BLACK must also put a spot on A
ludo8400
I'm checking the XLS file atm, because it contain same formula or value errors !!!
.
I noticed that, when comparing numbers for the dozens, sometimes there was a difference greater than two...but it still said "no bet"
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 06, 02:53 PM 2012
@ ORoCHI
in your reply WITH YOUR TRACKER STIL MISSING 24 AND 15 SO column 3=6 and column 2= 7
NOT a bet on column 2 because just 1 difference and your bet on DOZ 2.
:)
Ludo8400
I just modify the XLS, found the error.
(link:://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6303/98409240.jpg)
We bet COL: B & DOZ: 2
Still negative profit running the tests.
DOWNLOAD THE NEW XLS FILE, ADD LET ME KNOW IF ALL WORKING PROPERLY
QuoteHmmm... I seem to be winning a lot more covering Zero with a slight progression,
I am 45 units up in a hour....
If you've been playing this method for a long time and made what you "say" (no evidence seen yet) you have then why are you now playing covering the zero? and, in your earlier posts you said NOT to use a progression, it wont work
Quoteit works on a law of probability, This is why we FLAT bet only.
Progression will not give you success in the long run.
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER USE PROGRESSION WITH THIS SYSTEM,
I've tried it, IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!
Flat bet only
So, why the change Scotty
Oh Rose of the Solent.....
I don't get it
£5 play...a genuine correctly played session. No zero problems...tie problems. Straight forward 4 sessions
Shall I cancel the Bentley?
[attachimg=1]
Turner
Quote from: Turner on Dec 06, 04:13 PM 2012
Oh Rose of the Solent.....
I don't get it
£5 play...a genuine correctly played session. No zero problems...tie problems. Straight forward 4 sessions
Shall I cancel the Bentley?
[attachimg=1]
Turner
4 sessions is not enough
Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 04:12 PM 2012
If you've been playing this method for a long time and made what you "say" (no evidence seen yet) you have then why are you now playing covering the zero? and, in your earlier posts you said NOT to use a progression, it won't work
So, why the change Scotty
It was a tester to see if it peforms better..
Progression i tried in the pass nothing like that
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 06, 04:16 PM 2012
4 sessions is not enough
its still here unstopped in rx....how many sessions is enough
Scotty all the test we run, show always that your system is not profitable.
I think u got an ideia and them your lack of computer knowledge, make you take a move to take advantage of other persons to make the tests for you.
That is not a nice move. I always support people, but don't take liars!
Jeeeeeeez... Peoples wake up! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Orochi on Dec 06, 04:52 PM 2012
Scotty all the test we run, show always that your system is not profitable.
I think u got an ideia and them your lack of computer knowledge, make you take a move to take advantage of other persons to make the tests for you.
That is not a nice move. I always support people, but don't take liars!
Get in!!! it took 253 posts.
John Legend Lives on... Thanks for the help people
;)
Quote from: Scottydog2012 on Dec 06, 05:01 PM 2012
John Legend Lives on... Thanks for the help people
;)
LMAO.....when will you people listen....when will you people learn :thumbsup:
Just change PC.... Becomes an new ip address..
QuoteJohn Legend Lives on... Thanks for the help people
;)
1. I was quite sure Scottydog was JL using a fake name again. I told people many times he does this nonsense all the time, which is why I banned him. But some of you bit me, even jumped to another forum as if I was the bad guy, without seeing why I banned this guy.... and now some of you at least should know better.
2. JL deleted his post, but I reinstated it so people understand who he is.
3. If you recall I said in the beginning that Fender lies about his systems to get people to focus on them either because he is sick and needs the attention, or he just wants people to test his systems.
4. Again he created fake accounts to support his lies. And he made more lies, with this time saying he won half a million pounds.
As I have said many times, Fender is a sick person. I do believe he is 'c e h' too. If you don't now know know without a doubt that he is a liar and fraud, then God help you.
Some of you owe me an apology, but I don't care about that. I just hope you guys have learned what a dick this guy is, and understand when I ban someone, it is for good reason. I am a fair admin/mod, and hopefully it can be appreciated.
Everyone, expect he will be back. remember he's been doing it for years. Just don't be so gullible next time, please.
Fender, you are one pathetic unintelligent. No disrespect to the mentally ill, but people like you dont know what they are.
One comment.
Yep, I also posted that THIS seemed a bit 'off' in my opinion. After YEARS and YEARS, you kind of just.......feel it. Oh well, I'm glad he's gone (again).
Ken