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Started by Scottydog2012, Dec 03, 05:42 PM 2012

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Scottydog2012

Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 05:27 AM 2012

No problem furple, was just pointing out that the OP has made half a million pounds on RNG do you still think they cheat?
 
What would you do in the above case
 
You said
 
Do you want me to re-test betting both if the opportunity arises?

You said
 
Then you said
 
So in both the above statements are you saying retrack for 13 spins exactly?
 
LoL intermax, isn't half a million pounds good enough?

It makes no difference which column or dozen, if they both apply bet both,

Have you made some tests and what are your results?

superman

QuoteHave you made some tests and what are your results?

ok let's concentrate on betvoyager no zero, 10300 spins real money numbers, captured by myself so I know they are true/correct.

Yesterday I ran, as you know, if both col and doz are eligable I would just bet dozens

Results over 10300 spins was Cash 110 Peak 140 (Peak means it went that high at one point, Cash was the ending balance)

Just rejigged the bot to bet cols and dozens IF they are both eligable, lol, see attached, you can clearly see when it bet both as the gap between

Session End #################################

will be 26 lines as opposed to 13 lines, going to run it against skakus1 file now and will post it up in a bit
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Scottydog2012

Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 05:53 AM 2012

ok let's concentrate on betvoyager no zero, 10300 spins real money numbers, captured by myself so I know they are true/correct.

Yesterday I ran, as you know, if both col and doz are eligable I would just bet dozens

Results over 10300 spins was Cash 110 Peak 140 (Peak means it went that high at one point, Cash was the ending balance)

Just rejigged the bot to bet cols and dozens IF they are both eligable, LoL, see attached, you can clearly see when it bet both as the gap between

Session End #################################

will be 26 lines as opposed to 13 lines, going to run it against skakus1 file now and will post it up in a bit

Wow the profit of +830 is a huge difference!

I know it works and i think you can see it does too,

Could you run the same results of 1million spins?


buffalowizard

Superman
Just to confirm, playing it Scottys way , you ended +830 in 10,000 spins?

Cheers

BW

Maui13

So by the looks of you're testing Superman, there is method to the madness?
Trust the timing of your life!

superman

QuoteSuperman
Just to confirm, playing it Scottys way , you ended +830 in 10,000 spins?

If that's what's printed to the file, that's the results BW, just running skakus 30000 euro wheel numbers, will post it up in a few minutes

EDIT: ok skakus1 file betting both if they are both ready to bet, yesterdays results were

Cash -132 Peak 75 as you can see, a clear loss, see attached for betting both LoL

Now running the other skakus file, another 30000 spins, will post up when done
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Scottydog2012

Superman...

Thank you very much for the input...

All i can say is i told you so!

Now im pretty sure there alot of memebers on this forum who owe me an appology??

superman

QuoteSuperman...

Thank you very much for the input...

No problem mate, this is what we do here, wild clames get flack, that always happens, so we test until the cows come home, to prove or disprove a method.

QuoteNow I'm pretty sure there a lot of members  on this forum who owe me an appology??

Good luck with that, their a hard bunch
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Scottydog2012

Quote from: superman on Dec 06, 06:16 AM 2012

No problem mate, this is what we do here, wild clames get flack, that always happens, so we test until the cows come home, to prove or disprove a method.
 
Good luck with that, their a hard bunch

So just for the record...

Would you write in full exactly both methods you have tested, with both of their results.

Just so im 100% clear that its been done exacltly right,

Also, you now belive it works right?

superman

Uh oh, dont get too happy, made a mistake in the code, I was only subtracting 1 unit per bet, I didnt change it to subtract 2 units IF betting both, the results will change, sorry for the error guys, will re-run all 3 sets of numbers.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

superman

Ok as I said above, sorry if it created any excitement but the bank was not calculating properly, I have now completely re-checked the code and can confirm the calculations are correct, BV NZ still came out ahead but skakus1 file lost badly, this concludes my tests, sorry Scotty but it's not as good as we/you thought. I am sure I am doing the bet selection as per your rules, that's why I ask loads of questions. I added your extra rules this morning regarding betting both. The only thing I am unsure of is

What if you get 13 reds or 13 blacks, currently I spin UNTIL I have 12 of one and 1 of the other atleast then check for a bet. What do you do?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

amk

Superman,


The Skakus test ended on a losing note but what if it had another 10K or 30 K spins? Might it have recovered again?


Going through the test it had several dips and then recovered, only if it was by 1 unit.


My feeling is that the test stopped in the middle of a dip, not giving it a chance to recovery.


Any thoughts on this?

Nickmsi

 "When you say stop-loss at -15 per sheet please explain fully because those profits look bigger than mine,
So if you can make this even more profitable than i am great!" 
Scotty . . .
Here's how I set up my Testing Tracker:
1.   13 Spins is defined as a "Session"
2.  8 Sessions  of 13 spins makes a "Game" (104 Spins)
3.   I set my per "Game"  Profit Target at "unlimited" and my Stop Loss at (-15)
4.   If I hit the Stop Loss, I stop the current "Game" and start a new one.
I find it easier to spot both winning and losing trends over 104 spins rather than just 13.
Kindly remember, we are in the TESTING STAGE and that means no decision has been made on the merits of this method.  Members who test a lot, like myself, Superman, Mr. Ore, Ego, Ralph, Stef, etc will do their best to both understand the system and to code it accordingly.  We will make mistakes but that is what we do in the Testing Stage.
Us old salts know that it is a rare, some would say nonexistent, that any method will beat random, however, I believe we all can learn something from every try and isn't knowledge a reward in itself?
Enough ramblings, the TESTING continues with an Excel Bot verses BVNZ demo version.
Nick

Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

superman

QuoteMy feeling is that the test stopped in the middle of a dip, not giving it a chance to recovery

Possibly AMK BUT 30000 is a lot of spins, yes I also noticed it recovered and gained 1 unit at one point, problem is how many more spins would/could it take to get ahead again? manually you won't do 10000 spins in a day so as this was 30000 that was 3 days in the negative.

@ Nickmsi, I don't understand why you are running 8 sessions, this should be tested continuous as the OP stated you just keep going.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

ludo8400

Tracker in EXCEL on selection ODD/ EVEN

ludo8400

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