We've all heard about the so-called 2012 Mayan prophecy. Most people think it is just some doomsday prophecy, because they get their information from hollywood which is full of idiots.
The truth is on December 21st, 2012, there will be a astronomical alignment that occurs only once every 26,000 years. It is a CYCLE, not an end.
There is so much information out there, and most of it is negative like the one below:
2012 Something Is Going On! (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk-3MU-rc0M#ws)
It has a lot of interesting information about things like birds falling from the sky dead. Just like biblical prophecy. I believe that kind of thing happens from the HAARP project which is covert manipulation of weather among other things. Same thing with the strange sounds being heard from the sky. Sound is vibration and energy, and it can easily manipulate the atmosphere. Anyway, back to my point....
So what do you guys think will happen on December 21st? Post your prediction here.
I'll kick it off with my "theory". The planets and all life follows a cycle. An example is life and death. Death is change, not the end. The below chart shows one of the larger cycles:
(link:://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/26441_1422806648670_5078286_n.jpg)
This shows a cycle of human evolution, where we go from the "golden age" to the "dumbarse ignorant" stage. The top/yellow part is the golden age, and the buttom is the "dumbarse" stage. We are currently in the "dumbarse" stage.
Most people might say "how could we be the dumbest we've ever been because we have like rocket ships and stuff". Well when I say "dumbarse", I'm not so much talking about our ability to build rocket ships. How much tax do you pay?.. Is the power source to your house and vehicle efficient, or is it often the source of war?.. Are people being massively misled by media and selfish elite, and if so to what extent?.. How much of your life revolves around slavery?.. Is it like an "advanced society" to lead you into a life where you have an enormous debt and pay it off for the rest of your life?.. Really, we are not advanced. We are BACKWARDS. Collectively, we are dumb as they get. We are like monkeys with tools, thinking the ability to create tools makes us "advanced". Many of us look at animals as silly creatures, but really, who are the ones that need to go to work today to pay off electronic digits? (remembering money is not backed by gold anymore. it is backed by DEBT - DO RESEARCH ON "MONEY AS DEBT")
When I say "advanced", I'm talking about consciousness, ie our connection to everything. Now we are on our way back up to the golden age. We can see this with the growing focus on things like sustainable energy solutions.
The absolutely lowest of low stages was the last few hundred years. But, we are still in that stage. And the elite have a very good grip on us, and they're not going to let go without a fight. My prediction is now that people are "waking up" and becoming more conscious, the elite are starting to lose control. They know they can't keep us as slaves if we know what we are, so everything they do via media, schools and all, is to make us think "this is just how life is". They keep us in ignorance.
Some people will stay ignorant until death. Some wake up and wonder why they couldnt see it before.
At around about December 21st, our whole planet and collective consciousness will have reached a particular stage of evolution. It won't be an "on the day thing". Again it is an AREA of time, and it has already been happening. At around this time, a lot of accelerated changes are happening and it leads to a disruption in things like weather, although there is much more to the "screwy weather" thing.
Most importantly, this shift in consciousness is approaching "critical mass". This is the point in time where enough of us are aware that real change starts to happen. And when it is in full swing, the elite will lose control.
Now because these people don't give a nonsense about us, they will do anything they must to hold onto power. One of their major tools is FEAR. So they can stage anything they want, and people will be scared and submit to laws designed to further enslave. They have been doing this for a long time. 911 is just one example, and it allowed them to invade Iraq, remove Saddam who was clearly no angel, but they needed to re-structure that region and he was in the way. I don't want to get too far from my point, so I'll make it now:
It is possible that something is staged on the 21st, but I believe it is more likely to be AROUND this time. So anywhere from now until the next few months or even year. I mean something very big. A few possibilities are:
* Global killer pandemic, like some killer flu.
* More natural" disasters. Of course real natural disasters occur, but they have technology to affect weather and induce earth quakes
The above two are most likely. In the USA, it will be martial law and FEMA. Anytime from now to a few months from now. Basically it will only be done IF the elite are likely to lose control if something is not done. Understand it would be done to create fear and scarcity, to help them maintain control.
* The external threat. An alien invasion. Oh yes, think I'm a crackpot? Firstly, if you really think we are the only life-forms in the entire expansive universe, you are thick. If you think the "grey-bearded guy in a cloud made everything theory" is more plausible, good on you. I'm not talking about a real alien invasion though. I mean a fake one. And if you think faking an alien invasion is beyond the elite, you need to understand it is their last resort. They may or may not play that card. It depends on whether or not everything else they've tried has failed. It is their last resort because if people learn that other life exists, that will expand their thinking, and they don't want that.
Keep in mind to them, we collectively are silly, and willingly give our power over. They consider them just the "takers", and that we allow ourselves to be controlled. AND THEY ARE RIGHT. They are just doing what they consider natural - the survival of the fittest. To a good person, they are evil. To an evil person, they are no more cruel than a lion eating its prey. It is a birthright to do what they must to survive. But the fact of the matter is they are parasites. Is a leech evil? That depends on your PERSPECTIVE. My perspective is a leech doesn't have a choice. They do, and they choose to thrive from manipulation which is a destructive outward path. And considering all matter and energy can only survive with implosion, their approach to life cannot be sustained without willing subjects, hence the need to keep us in ignorance.
Carol Rosin: Amenaza de Asteroides y ET's (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=XMSvSHiN0PY#)
The woman in this video explains part of the plan.
It is all out there. Why do you think the elite are busting their balls to censor the Internet? They don't want people to communicate openly. Uncensored communication is critical. Research and see how badly the elite are pushing to censor the Internet. They are rushing it. And even when they fail, they try again. They need the censorship so they if/when all this goes down, they need to control the information to manipulate people as they do with other media.
So in short, my prediction is a storm is coming. We just don't know what it is yet. But I expect it will either not be real, or it will be a situation CREATED BY THE ELITE to create fear in attempt to maintain control.
If you think I'm a crackpot or "conspiracy theorist", you are the one with a lot to learn.
Agree
Hopefully it all ends......get this bad dream over with.
Ken
It is not going to pretty either way. Change usually is messy. I don't think people need to build bunkers or anything or stockpile food (unless you intend to stay in cities which is pretty darn silly), because if we are in a survival situation, you will eat just about anything.
Whatever happens, I believe one thing is clear: there will be massive deception of some kind. Not just one thing, but many at once. It will all be centered around FEAR, to have us submit to their control.
Everything that has a start will have an end. So they won't be around forever. Because people are so detached from reality and what they are, they get scared so easily. I'm not afraid at all of dying. At least I won't pay tax. ****ing tax.
Anyway, remember:
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
- Benjamin Franklin
Don't know about the Mayan's or what they're cooking up at CERN next Friday...but just reading Drudge a couple times a day really puts things in perspective as to what state the world is in...and it's certainly not getting better by any stretch of the imagination.
Reason and common sense seem to be loooong gone, whether you are talking about the politicians or the general public.
It certainly has the propensity to get pretty bad.
No matter what you believe, it is hard to disagree that the state of the world is bad.
The other day I was driving along thinking about people who starve, face foreclosure or whatever. Then I look over to a patch of grass, with no vegetables growing. Just a small patch.
WHY isnt there food growing there? WHY are there ANY people going hungry, let alone dying of starvation?
Just one point. The world is BACKWARDS.
That's why I pray. Also remember there is a big holiday called Christmas coming up, celebrating a very major event in history. I cling to the hope that comes with that Birth.
From my understanding the earth as well as our entire solar system is moving into a new energy field in space. This is the actually reason for global warming. Knowing that all planets in our solar system are also experiencing global warming proves this.
This energy field is what 2012 etc is all about. This energy field is of a high vibration/love, anything which is of a low vibration/negative emotions (which leads to all the turmoil on are earth) cannot journey to far into this new energy field for it is not compatible with it.
This new energy field is also raising peoples consciousnesses and is transmuting all low vibrations.
What I expect to see happening in 2013 is vast positive societal changes. From a new global economic system, to free energy to the full development of the third world. Granted these changes will not happen overnight but we will see them really getting started in 2013.
December 21st is an important date for it is in my mind a doorway. Basically everyone on the planet has heard about the 21st and what could happen. Some are in fear because they have been mislead to believe bad things will happen. Everyone is feeling "something". This something in my mind is the coming changes which will transform the world and in a sense this thought can be overwhelming for we don't know how it is all going to happen.
For me Dec 21st represents a date on which we have a personal decision to make. Do I believe in this new age? Am I ready and unafraid of this new age? Can I let go of all negative emotions I have? Do I love myself and can I forgive myself. Do I acknowledge that we are all one and do I wish that everyone on earth lived in peace? If the answer is yes then I feel I am ready to move into the new energy field/new age.
I love this thread well done guys, a lot of things are being said that I have believed in for quite a long time, especially what Steve said at the start, I feel we are being conned, and contrary to belief slavery is alive and well today.
Look what happened to the banking world not long ago, just shows everything we have been told, is just built like a pack of cards!
Things have got to change for the better for everyone not just the rich, and I hope 2013 is when the world wakes up, and says "enough is enough of this crap, lets make the world a better place"
Peace & Love
malcop
I do love reading absolutly everything. I can enjoy reading many things, even stuff I dont believe in.
This was interesting stuff Steve.
Just because I dont believe this Myan doomsday doesnt make it wrong. I could be wrong.
we believe what we want to.
i pesonally believe man landed on the moon. i have a friend who doesnt. he argued that radiation bursts would of killed the astonauts.
"How do you know the radiation burst exists?" I asked
"Because I read it", he replied. I said, ...."and I read man landed on the moon."
Unless you accuratly do the test and experiment your self, you are just reading and adopting a view you like.
The only thing that has changed in the last 26,000 years is the population and not the resourses. They have dwindled. people murdered then, starved then, died in hurricanes and tsunamis then, robbed people then...prayed then.
being an amature Astronomer, im sure that the double star Sirrius or infact objects further than the moon have absolutly zero influence on the earth. The mass of this penny I have in my hand has more influence on the earth than Sirrius. Stars and planets lining up have no Astronomical effect on the earth. So it must be Astrological, which I dont subscribe to.
But there you go, I read that somewhere in a Stephen Hawking book or something and decided thats what I would believe. I didnt do any of the experiments...so i am just blindly and faithfully believing it.
At least I realise that I suppose.
Everyones view is just that. A view. its not wrong and its not right. Its just what they believe.
Turner
PS....I fully intend to be sitting in my local pub sipping a nice Port on the 22nd December
Proofreaders, while I'm not a "religious" person, I do believe in Christ, but I believe the truth has been massively distorted over the 2000 years. I do believe in the Bible, but I also believe you need a fair understanding of how the universe really is to properly understand what it is saying. I think blindly believing it with a literal translation is wrong. And ministers pass on their inaccurate understanding of it. At least this is my opinion, and we all have our opinions.
As for prayers, when I was religious, I prayed often. Then when I had a different perspective on life, I looked more at science instead of "some guy in a cloud", and I didn't pray as I saw no point. Now I understand that prayer is a connection. With God? Who knows, and that depends on your definition of "God". But there is real science behind prayer. For example, consider that prayer can influence the structure of water. We are around 75% water. Prayer does do something, even if just attuning ourselves to the universe.
My personal understanding of such a higher power is that there is no real distinction between God and science. And the existence of UFOs etc doesn't disprove God. I never understand why people don't see both can exist. So I believe "God" is the universe itself, which is absolute consciousness, that we are all part of - at present we wouldnt have anywhere near the consciousness to fully understand it. I don't believe God would be some guy in a cloud.
AMK, yes I agree about the energy. Although I can only guess as to what this energy is. It appears to be some kind of acceleration in our awareness. I don't know if it is influenced by actual planets or just a natural progression in our cycles. Perhaps a combination of both. As above, so below. It is said in many teachings, not just the bible. And yes I agree about the personal decision. Some people aren't going to understand or see it. Some people are going to just think we're on something, while we're confused as to why they can't see it. About prayer and water, see link:://:.spiritofmaat.com/archive/aug1/consciouswater.html (link:://:.spiritofmaat.com/archive/aug1/consciouswater.html)
A while back on the forum we did the rice experiment which is a good way to see it for yourself, but you need to see the jars regularly to have effect. It is not the words on the jars that makes the changes, it is you and your emotion towards the words.
Malcop, yes that point is "critical mass" and that's what we're not far from. And then real change will happen. Very much looking forward to it, but I know its not going to be pretty at the start - especially for the people not mentally prepared.
Turner, we all have our different beliefs. For me to say I'm definitely right would be ignorant. Also keep in mind I'm not saying there is some doomsday - I'm saying the opposite. I believe 2012 is a planet alignment that marks a point in our evolution. Again it is not an "on the day" thing, and the changes are positive, and already happening. When the global financial system collapses will be the worst part, and the best part.
And turner, port is sickeningly sweet. You are flat wrong for drinking it. :P
Quote from: Steve on Dec 13, 04:48 PM 2012
And turner, port is sickeningly sweet. You are flat wrong for drinking it. :P
Steve, with all due respect, Port wasnt on the agenda for scrutiny...... :thumbsup:
Hello Steve,
Liked reading your reply.
From my understanding, yes, there will be some difficulties as the changes are massive and thousands of people have to work together, which they already are. But it will not be drastic etc
The new economic system is being handled by very wise people and is being put inplace underneath the collapsing one so that things will fall into place, no pun intended : )
What is most important is that we do not fear. The corruption is being removed from all aspects of our society. Only the media is still heavily influenced.
I look forward to the future, perhaps we are going back to it ; )
Quote from: Steve on Dec 12, 10:00 PM 2012
The truth is on December 21st, 2012, there will be a astronomical alignment that occurs only once every 26,000 years. It is a CYCLE, not an end.
Steve is this a fact or just your personal opinion? The only astronomical alignment that I'm aware of is that every December the Earth and Sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy. To my knowledge this is an annual event though.
furple, it is fact that I'm aware of "within reason". For example, I do not have a telescope big enough to verify it all. I base it on my own research mainly of the mayan calendar and ancient egyptian culture about the golden age. Mayan calendars dont need constant adjustment like ours as they are perfectly accurate.
Quote from: furple on Dec 13, 05:22 PM 2012
Steve is this a fact or just your personal opinion? The only astronomical alignment that I'm aware of is that every December the Earth and Sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy. To my knowledge this is an annual event though.
Furple...My understanding is this. the ecliptic is the plane on which the Earth orbits the sun.
Every 26,000 years, we do a full 360 turn relative to the Milky Way.
6500 years ago we would of been at right angles to the milky way plane.
This level we travel on moves a fraction of a degrees per year relative to the Galaxy we are in, the Milky way. Its about 1 degree every 72 years Thats 0.01degree per year
10 years ago, we would of been 0.1 degrees different angle.
if something was going to happen when it lines up, 0.01 degrees ago this time last year is close enough to level for what ever will happen to actually happen. So why didnt it.?
Its all relative. Nothing is lining up.
A civilization which in around +-400 AD could predict to such a perfect degree of accuracy the alignment of our earth and the sun to the center of our galaxy deserves our respect.
This leads me to conclude that something is lining up, something good.
Quote from: amk on Dec 13, 07:03 PM 2012
A civilization which in around +-400 AD could predict to such a perfect degree of accuracy the alignment of our earth and the sun to the center of our galaxy deserves our respect.
This leads me to conclude that something is lining up, something good.
AMK,
Please consider carefully we are a race of humans with extensive help (computers) and experience, that understanding truely what the Myans meant is akin to trying to understanding what Dolphins mean. We are deciphering what they left us with "this knowledge" not their knowledge. its as alien as a Dolphins clicks.
.. we are not the most advanced we've ever been. Not even close. The ancient technology was very different though.
Human beings aren't all that intelligent in my opinion. After all we only live an average of 80 years . 80 years in the scheme of things is a blink of the eye. At the end of the day I think it all boils down to being true to your self and to respect one another.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones" - Marcus Aurelius
Hello Turner,
I have drawn my conclusions after studying this topic for the last 9 years. Perhaps at the surface it looks like dolphin clicks, a very sophisticated language I might add : ) I have seen too much information which highlights that something very special is happening.
Deciphering this knowledge has been done very successfully. As has been the case with hieroglyphs etc In the end it comes down to what you are open to. Don't forget that mainstream academia/media etc do not want knowledgeable information coming out which can rock the boat so to speak. If people just follow Discovery Channel they will be non the wiser.
How can we say that we are an advanced civilization when we cannot even replicate the pyramids? All evidence lines up that earths history was vastly different from what we have been told and that its future is far brighter then we can imagine.
Quote from: amk on Dec 14, 07:09 AM 2012
In the end it comes down to what you are open to.
Totally agree. I was opinionated as a kid.....but when I got older, I realised that by restricting my views, I was missing out on so much reading and theories. open mind keeps you interested.
The open mind benefits yourself mainly. makes you less biggoted...less opinionated...more likeable.
More happy!
Now i read the lot. Which can be a strain.
Info collecting can be a burden...but a wonderful thing.
Turner
A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it's not open = Frank Zappa :thumbsup:
O0
Today there is the biggest chemtrail over Melbourne I've ever seen. From what I see it extends from far east to west right over the populated region. Is anyone else in melbourne that can see it?
Ok so the Mayans got it a little bit wrong. It's the end of Melbourne, not the end of the world.
...that's not such a bad thing is it?
Cheers from Sydney. :)
PS. Steve, I think it's time you chopped up that 12 inches of cactus you've got stashed on top of the wardrobe and drink the stew before it's too late!
noted
btw there is no doubt that the government is spraying chemicals. They admit it. But the question is WHY are they doing it. Is it really only aluminium? And is aluminium really not going to harm us? Research what aluminum in our body does. Basically it ****s you up in many ways.
There is loads of information about this. For example:
"What in the World are They Spraying?" - Official Trailer (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q#ws)
Dont you just love the guy who first says there is no health impact. Then later says it doesnt bother us but "freeloads on our grandkids". Incomprehensible BS and they will do this until we stop them.
From my understanding they are being neutralized.
Again, I believe that world matters are now in good hands.
Its not a perfect world ofcourse (yet : )
We should be aware but not live in fear.
21/12/2012
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Anyone up for a bet?
I bet $1B the world doesnt end. If it doesn't end, you owe me biiig.
Quote from: Steve on Dec 21, 12:40 AM 2012
Anyone up for a bet?
I bet $1B the world doesn't end. If it doesn't end, you owe me biiig.
You're on!
I bet $1B the world DOES end, and when it does you owe me biiig!... well we probably won’t be here to settle so hopefully my distant descendants will be able to collect from you’re distant descendants. They will probably all be living temporarily on one of Jupiter’s terraformed moons by then because our planet will have been swallowed up by the ever expanding sun, and $1B will probably be just enough to buy a double shot latte at the Europa Cafe, but hey, at least I will have won the bet!
Quote from: Steve on Dec 12, 10:00 PM 2012
This shows a cycle of human evolution, where we go from the "golden age" to the "dumbarse ignorant" stage. The top/yellow part is the golden age, and the buttom is the "dumbarse" stage. We are currently in the "dumbarse" stage.
We're merely somewhere along the (paradoxical) middle of the evolutionary process. What came before is a matter of type; after, a matter of degree. Call it the "human condition".
Here's some perspective from our Stellan freinds:
97 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA - Nibiru and Events (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=IXodTHOjvik#)
My perspective is that overall, we experience cycles...round and round...until we get off the wheel. Death is a period in a long story about a journey away from home, and back again. It looks like evolution, but i prefer to think of it as drama. As actors, we can exit stage right or stage left. Left leads back onstage in another costume, to play another role. Stage right exit is to let go of a material universe through disinterest in any kind of drama.
December 21 is, in our annual orbit, the darkest time of year, at least in the northern hemisphere. This is symbolic. All symbols are relative to what's being experienced by the mind that makes a material world. Darkness is symbolic as well, symbolizing ignorance and confusion. It could be argued that the mind that makes a material world is ignorant and confused, and that this is the darkest point in it's descent into the unknowns of unreality.
The mind that makes a material world may be a bit beyond the darkest point, and is heading back to the light of knowledge and knowing (rather than the darkness of thinking, imagining and believing). So if you can think of this mind as making one single journey into darkness and back again, and compare that to an annual cycle, it (and therefore we) may be positioned at approximately where Christmas is positioned in an annual orbit. We are past the darkest point and starting to head back into the light. Because this single cycle is measured in millions of years, it could be said that even 2000 years ago, the darkened mind was at the point of Christmas in it's journey back to all-knowing.
So a golden age, if there is one, is also symbolic, just as our summer is better than our winter (unless you like the cold and the darkness). A golden age is symbolic of a return to a divine Self. What's different about this divine Self is that it does NOT change. So, cycles are NOT a normal aspect of such a Being's experience. Change, to a perfect Being, ultimately means less-than-perfect...and ultimately, less-than-perfect is unacceptable. "Be ye perfect" is a call we began to hear 2000 years ago, and will hear it more and more as the mind that descends into imperfection rises again to it's place in an eternal perfection, which is ultimately a divine Self.
In a perfect world, there is no material world. That is, there is nothing (no mass) that is formed by particles and particle physics. So there are no Higgs bosons, no "god particles", no electrons...not even our much-worshiped "energy". Energy will ultimately be seen as a sacred cow. In a perfect world, there is no *relative*, so there is no E=MC2. A perfect world is not material, it is spiritual. Nor is it a place or a condition, it is a Being, one that is Spirit.
A material world is formed out of the imagination of an otherwise perfect Being. Imagination is essentially a mind that wanders away from reality. To a Being that IS reality itself, this type of wandering is a journey away from a sense of true Self. It becomes an actor on a stage that wears costumes and masks. None of which are true, all of which are scripted roles. A script is ultimately a *story*...a fiction. When this story is believed by a powerful Being, it takes on the flavor of "reality", and takes on a "life" of it's own. The mind is most dark when it is most fully believing in the story. At that point it is really confused about reality. This is where we find our "selves" in the ages of time.
To a mind that is normally perfect, imagination represents the consideration of all that is imperfect. A world of ever-changing cycles is imperfect, and yet, it is extremely tempting. The mind that considers it will not let go of it's focus until it has explored every avenue, and become *weary*. To such a mind, planets, and their orbits around centers of either light or darkness (black holes) is ultimately a ridiculous proposition. We do not deserve this! We deserve better.
We have a destiny, just as every mind that sleeps is destined to wake up. There is only one mind that sleeps, and dreams of a material world...of another self consisting of many selves. Because there is only one mind that sleeps and dreams, it is the destiny of ALL to awaken to a true sense of Self. It should be obvious that so long as we cherish a sense of uniquely different selves, we cherish an imperfect world where inequality, and therefore hierarchy are the miserable status quo. We are destined for a return to equality. The only way for us to be equal is for all of us to be equally unlimited. This is our normal state of Being. If there are other such Beings, they are also equal. This is only possible in a world of Spirit. Equality is impossible in a world of material, where one form is different from another.
So there is hope. Let us help our hope by withdrawing the belief we have invested in a material world, and in unequal selves distributed along a relative continuum of unknowing. Let us not cherish a substitute brand of knowing which is just an accumulation of information about how a dreaming mind functions. The function of a dreaming mind can never make any sense. There is ultimately no rhyme or reason to circumstances apart from reality. There is nothing such a mind can gain from adding another world, apart from reality, to it's inventory of ownership. There isn't anything material worth owning.
I just meant to post a video and it turned into a sermon. But i think it's a damn good sermon. I will continue to endeavor to keep the "good news" actually GOOD. What currently passes for "good" is actually pretty ridiculous. There is ultimately only one GOOD, and happily, it is also a Self...in it's normal environment (home).
Be well...
Be...
~Still Christ!
December 21, 2012
I doubt a collective dimensional shift of 2012. It only happens to individuals already on some spiritual path. On a 3rd dimensional level nothing will ever happen. The paranormal becomes reality in the 4th and 5th dimension. About religion. I respect all religions, but after having some paranormal experiences and experimenting with psychedelic drugs, it's hard to go back to the old world view (and old belief systems) also after being outside my own cultural setting for one year (in Asia) I can say for definite im not religious, but I know the paranormal/spiritual world is real. But it exist as in another parallel dimension separated from 3rd dimension reality/logic.
we can do it! We can sit in a theatre or a cinema and laugh, cry, jump out of our skin because we "didnt expext that".
I still struggle watching the scene in Casino (very apt) when they have the guys head in a vice.
Its so real....but you know it isnt. You dont need therapy for trauma after watching Casino.
But we can put ourselfs 90% into a film/book/play....and even more so, a dream. Infact, we are 100% into a dream until we awake.
The way to eternal peace is to do the same with real life. thats the challange. See real life as a play or movie. attach fior the moment, but dont take the thought with you. jealousy, revenge, hatred, intollerance are all thoughts. Nothing else.
When you dont realise this, you put your faith in a God...in an astronomical event...in a faith to something exterior.
I'm sad. If you can't trust the Mayans, who can you trust?
Congress?
TwoCat
1. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) purchased a shitload of hollow point bullets. These are expensive bullets designed to kill. The DHS says they were buying in bulk to save money, and that its just for training. So why all the hollow point bullets? link:://rt.com/usa/dhs-hollow-bullets-purchase-855/ (link:://rt.com/usa/dhs-hollow-bullets-purchase-855/)
QuoteThe DHS plans to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next four or five years .As for the hollow point bullets, they are allegedly purchased for training. However, former Marine Richard Mason told WHPTV news, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four-and-a-half years in the Marine Corps."
2. Part of the US Government are pushing for gun control. Their actions are a stepping stone to make the population easier to control. link:://:.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/senate-shoots-down-gun-control-push/story-fnay3ubk-1226623822347 (link:://:.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/senate-shoots-down-gun-control-push/story-fnay3ubk-1226623822347)
Notice how they use victims of gun violence to pull at heart strings.
3. How hard are they pushing to censor the internet??
link:://tech2.in.com/features/general/internet-censorship-a-growing-concern/666872 (link:://tech2.in.com/features/general/internet-censorship-a-growing-concern/666872)
Seriously guys, this is all happening. Spend a few hours at link:://:.infowars.com/ (link:://:.infowars.com/) and watch videos: link:://:.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?feature=watch (link:://:.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?feature=watch)
This is not paranoia. It is absolutely real. It is not conspiracy as such. It is a small group of very powerful people who don't care about you. They only care about securing their continued power. And they know people are becoming more aware. They know emerging technology will reduce our dependence for food and energy. They are pushing their agenda because they know they have limited time to do what they need.
Watch out for more bombings, more shootings and more kinds of things they will use to try and change laws, declare martial law and so on. I'm not saying every bombing is a staged event - there certainly are genuine nuts that act alone to do silly things.
You can't hide from what is going on. This will all be in your face whether you like it or not.. even if for now it appears to just be news on TV. You can either fight against it, or submit to slavery. And most of us already slaves but don't know it. They are going to keep pushing harder and harder until we submit, or we remove their power. I'm sure they would rather see billions die than them lose control. So things can get a lot worse.
RFID CHIP Coming March 23, 2013 - 12/31/2017 ( Full Movie ) (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu2Uyua0so8#)
They have tried to implement it before, but failed. They will keep trying.
This is absolutely real. If you doubt it, then you haven't done your research. Keep a close eye on :.infowars.com (link:://:.infowars.com) until the site is closed. Right now it all isnt in our faces, or so it seems because we don't see we are already slaves. And later with things like the RFID chip, you may believe the government and think it really is best for us... or you'll cave into pressure because you won't be able to buy or sell without it.
Mark of the Beast : Obama introduces the RFID BRAIN Initiatve to read your thoughts (Apr 3, 2013) (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=tW5l_P641j0#ws)
This is the real "2012". It is really happening and its not going to be pretty. Really we're all going to need to make a choice of one way or the other.
Drop what you are doing whether it be work to pay debts to banks or whatever, and dedicate the time to research so you know what's happening.
Obama is so concerned for our health. About terrorism. Our lives. How much has he spent on war? How many terrorists have killed people. How many people have died from heart disease? How much has been spent on heart disease research? And why has the heart disease cure from Linus Pauling been ignored?
Christian Family Refuses Mandatory RFID Chip at Texas School (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=_awY6U6QUfk#)
I mean, wake the **** up to what is happening. You can't open the eyes of every ignorant fool, but you can take measures to protect yourself. It doesn't mean building a bunker and stock-piling food. It means having the ability to not rely on money to live. Start with :.ic.org (link:://:.ic.org) - IC (Intentional Communities) are like villages or communities that have the capability to live completely off the grid if needed. Most are partially off the grid. But when the need arises, they wont need money to survive.
Is this the "End of Britain"?
Scary stuff for UK members....
The debt time bomb that is Britain. (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=AYVZKpH3pnM#ws)
A.
I have not looked at the videos atlantis or read posts, only a few comments.
Just wanted to say that things are better then they seem.
There is another economic system which can let the world prosper.
It seems that the current system has to do very poorly before this new system is started.
Don't ask me why : )
We will slowly become a new Atlantis atlantis : )
The idea is the old system will be crashed via debt, and then replaced with global currency for greater control. It is already happening.
If they have full control over currency, they will have full control over everyone that uses it. How much do you rely on money?
Atlantis, its not just the UK - its the entire world and what is happening is intentional. Also that video misses some crucial elements about how this problem occurred (ie by design) but has some very good info. One one point, the debt helped Hitler come to power, same as the NWO intend it to be, acting to be the savior and solution to the problem they created. And interesting fact is Hitler was funded by Wall st, among names, the Bush family.
And gold investments? NO. You can't eat gold and it will be as worthless as paper money soon. First and foremost, food
One of the key solutions is living without money. We really don't need it. Its just that we've been conditioned to think that we do. An early stage solution is :.ic.org (link:://:.ic.org)
Hey Steve,
I feel that when looking at the global situation we should not just look at the negative/dark side for you are only getting a one sided view. One thing is for sure there is dark and there is Light. Logically we can say that Light will ultimately prevail, there can be no other way.
I have looked at both the dark and the Light and can say that the Light is gaining much ground. This is what Dec 21 2012 is all about, the turnaround point. to say that it is now time for the dark to flourish is not correct. As I am sure you will agree this is all about frequency levels aka Light. These frequencies or influx of Light will only exponentially increase from here on. The dark was able to thrive due to the low frequencies our planet was in. Global warming is actually a positive sign of this phenomena and will level off. All planets are experiencing "global warming" due to the new energy field/Light field the solar system is moving in and of which the Mayans spoke.
What is needed for us to make the changes happen more swiftly is for us to remain positive, don't fear or panic. Understand the message of the Light and not the last vestiges of darkness.
Obama is fully aware of all aspects and we are in good hands.
Look toward a positive future and we will help create it.
Sincerely,
AMK
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 22, 09:49 AM 2012
I'm sad. If you can't trust the Mayans, who can you trust?
Congress?
TwoCat
I like that Sam!
The Mayans were smart to put it so far away in time, they did not need to face they were wrong.
The Congress and Senate, do nothing, and let the country be ruled by some automatic stuff.
We had a funny problem in the Kindom of Sweden, after 1974 we change to a parlament using just one chamber in stead of two.
They set the number of MP to 350, and (this will some not understand in US as they do not use it, it is used in Europe except France). The political blocks got 175 - 175, so the speaker has to draw the decisions from a lottery equipment. Later the change the numbers to 349.
AMK, I agree with most of what you said. However,
1. Obama is not a savior. His policies show what he is, and he's another one of them.
2. Sure light will overcome. But I believe things will get much darker before then, and it will be an act of desperation from people who will try to maintain control. Desperate because people are waking up to who and what they are. And when that happens, they lose control.
Whatever the case, it is certain... The new world order is not a group of people. It is the "solution" that we are going to be presented with.... to apparently solve all our problems. The one world government among other things. And it will probably be achieved by them, because it will come with perks that will be too good to resist for most, like potentially wiping debts.
Whether or not I'm right, time will tell.
Growing food and self-sufficiency is one of their greatest threats. Take Monsato for example, and the attempts to make growing your own food illegal. Its all out there. I'd hate to be in the USA right now - its the hotspot for global tyranny. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. Its not an attack on its people at all. Its just that the USA is being driven into the group and a police state by design.
Are you saying that Michelle Obama's well published initiative of growing your own food is some kind of deception?
Yes, it is part of the deception. It is not uncommon for politicians to say one thing, then do another. Like the war on unemployment.. or the war on poverty.. or the war on terror.. and their actions that were supposed to fix things actually made things worse.
I'm sure you agree policies speaks louder that talk. For example:
link:://:.infowars.com/senate-bill-s510-makes-it-illegal-to-grow-share-trade-or-sell-homegrown-food/
link:://bradleycountynews.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/food-police-say-illegal-to-growsharetrade-or-sell-homegrown-food/
Basically you are allowed to have a small vegie patch. But if you make too much of it to feed your family, you've committed a crime. So they get to appear like saints with B.S. "initiatives", while screwing you over. And you won't know unless you pay attention. If you get your news from CNN and Fox News, you will be misled for sure.
Remember it is not the USA that is doing it. It is just criminals in high places. Anyone can use their head and wonder if there is such a hard push for everyone growing their own food, why is now illegal to grow enough food to feed your family?? Why if they are concerned about your safety do they spend trillions on fighting overseas wars while back home people starve, but spending barely anything on the #1 killer in the world (heart disease)?.. Hmm. US citizens need to dog a lot deeper to see what is happening. I don't think enough people will see it before serious damage has been done. It has already been done, but is going to get worse.
Take a look at how money is created, and what the federal reserve is and does. that's a major factor because we all use money to survive.
Rest assured, or not, that soon enough the microchipping will be forced on most if not all of us. To the point where we have a choice to be part of the slavery system, or to be unable to buy or sell. Without a microchip. It has been on the cards for a long long time. See link:://planet.infowars.com/health/obamacare-obamatax-makes-rfid-chip-implants-mandatory-march-23-2013-via-sodahead-com - they have already tried to implement it. They will never stop trying because of the control it gives them.
Nobody knows how this will play out. but for sure, it means more false flags. More catastrophe that they themselves cause, and all so they can present the ultimate solution to us all... which is the new world order. The one-world government. It is not the solution. They have created the problems to cause fear so we submit to their plan. The solution is removing their power. The NWO was planned well before this unintelligent, announced it on.. umm yeah 9/11/1991
link:://:.youtube.com/v/wqRCdfUUrPc
by the way, here's the speech that got JFK killed. Listen carefully. And it was going on well before then.
link:://:.youtube.com/v/FnkdfFAqsHA