Dear all,
I got the email this morning from Dublinbet after I wrote them concerning the problems they have now for days.
Hello John,
We do apologise, our hosting and network providers are dealing with a substantial network Distributed Denial-Of-Service("DDOS") attack on networked resources.
This is unfortunately intermittently affecting connectivity to our systems.
When a connection is available, the live games still work, but the live video is not currently available. (the DDOS is attacking the video servers).
If your connection is affected you may experience frequent disconnections. May we suggest you wait until tomorrow to play, when the connections should be more stable.
We apologise for the interrupted service, and thank you in advance for your patience until this is resolved.
Kind regards,
Helen
dublinbet Customer Service
support@dublinbet.com
They're just recalibrating their cheatsoftware..lol
Quote from: Maan on Apr 21, 04:33 AM 2013
They're just recalibrating their cheatsoftware..LoL
Do you have bad experions with Dublinbet ?
May be too many winners from this and other forums; Profitability may be going down......lol lol; Notice how there is no live dealer is on video for the past few days........; The question arise is it still real live roulette as it was in the past ......??? ::)
There are problems with their server. I could not connect. And this is a good joke about too many winners from this forum.
Quote from: iggiv on Apr 21, 09:31 AM 2013
There are problems with their server. I could not connect. And this is a good joke about too many winners from this forum.
BV went down some minutes ago, may be due to this two spins!!! 8)
Guys
BV goes down for me more than it runs!! Sometimes I can't stay on five minutes.
As to Dublin--if I understand this right--they are under attack by cyber-blackmailers. They were told to pay or their signal would be compromised. I read that somewhere.
And so it goes in the world of the internet.
Sam
they been down
they are up again.
By the way. A friend of mine visited this "Dublinbet" casino in Dublin and spoke to those dealers. And they showed him cameras etc. He is convinced they are honest. I think they are. At least Steve thinks so too...
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Apr 21, 02:55 PM 2013
As to Dublin--if I understand this right--they are under attack by cyber-blackmailers. They were told to pay or their signal would be compromised. I read that somewhere.
They should be resilient. DDoS attacks are a b*, but there are providers who can assist.
In no case should they "bend" to the blackmailers demands. That's akin to opening themselves to repeated blackmailing.
I do hope they "patch" internet protocols to give this sort of DDoS against institutions a stop. It isn't as hard as one could think.
A proposed solution would be a simple "handshake" where there is only a simple "head" request with a personalized key added, without actually downloading contents.
This would need valid users to be given a "key" to enter into the browser prior to connecting to the site. It can be in their welcome email.
Regular POST/GET traffic is not granted to an IP unless a valid key is provided.
Any request for contents without this key is discarded automatically. Being only HEAD requests, no contents are downloaded on the first contact, saving the bulk of the bandwidth and relieving lots of server tension. For what the attackers is concerned, they are talking to an unresponsive server as all their requests are dropped/not answered since they don't have any authentication key.
If they get to steal "keys" from some valid users, the company can pin-point and invalidate them "on the fly". Simply by detecting if many IPs are trying to use the same validation key at once (DDoS only purpose is to overwhelm servers, as all new requests are the same, they can't determine which one belongs to actual users and which to attackers, if they enable the key mechanism they could differentiate them easily by implementing this, never delivering contents to the attackers yet serving the users as usual).
I think genuine users wouldn't mind putting such a key to enjoy uninterrupted service.
Yes, I'll take a key....
Vic
Surely they know this. If not, why not enlighten them? You'd do the world a service.
Sam
i am sure they will solve the problem soon enough...
There are already services focused to defending against such attacks.
link:://:.akamai.com/html/solutions/ddos_defense.html (link:://:.akamai.com/html/solutions/ddos_defense.html)
The standard ways being to put up more resources and traffic analyzers to attempt to recognize and block heinous traffic spikes. This is costly, but works.
It would definitely be cheaper and more efficient to let valid users "Tag" themselves instead of taking the lot of requests and putting resources to identify them.
As Sam exemplifies, most users won't mind.
It is not so hard to filter a frequent attacking source, but if they have done a trojan which use the players computers and 10000 of them the problem is harder. They can plant the trojan from a site which given gambling ideas free, or even gambling fora.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 21, 11:47 PM 2013They can plant the trojan from a site which given gambling ideas free, or even gambling fora.
DDoS'ers usually hire botnets (or harvest themselves)
It can cost around $200/day to "blackmail" large portals seriously.
link:s://blog.damballa.com/archives/330 (link:s://blog.damballa.com/archives/330)
It is clear the "big guys" would bring hell to themselves by paying.
This one quotes $400/week "El Cheapo" service:
link:://:.incapsula.com/the-incapsula-blog/item/221-the-greeting-card-no-business-wants-to-get (link:://:.incapsula.com/the-incapsula-blog/item/221-the-greeting-card-no-business-wants-to-get)
QuoteAccording to experts, every online gambling site is paying an extortion, usually around $40,000.
Source (link:://:.savidtech.com/blog/business/how-to-survive-a-ddos-extortion-attack/).
It sucks big time. If dublinbet is actually under attack and it's not just hearsay, I'd have no problem to discuss technical ways to help.
I do not think DB pays to the attackers. They who pay, never admit the attack.
It is not easy to defend, all counter messures will not last, it is a arms raise.
Government websites have been down.
Quote from: Ralph on Apr 22, 12:46 AM 2013
It is not easy to defend, all counter messures will not last
I beg to differ Ralph.
It is
very plausible to defend the service for already-registered customers.
Cyber attacks are an expency thing for many who are dependent on traffic for theire business. They would hire you fora decent fee if you save them quick.
Ralph is right! Vic, this is your calling. CyberCop on the beat, knocking the heads of the bad guys--for a decent fee!!
However, they would kill you.
Sam
I've gathered my thoughts on the matter on this thread:
Ideas for online casinos to mitigate DDoS attacks (link:://betselection.cc/online-casinos/ideas-for-online-casinos-to-mitigate-ddos-attacks/msg13732/?topicseen#new)
Also sent an email to Dublinbet to call for their attention.
Only dublinbet has this problem or also other VueTec casinos?
Thanks
Dublinbet is up and running! and video is working again ;D
Quote from: starkygold on Apr 24, 09:14 AM 2013
Only dublinbet has this problem or also other VueTec casinos?
Thanks
Dear Starkygold,
I like to to know from you and other members if you have still problems with login on Dublinbet.
I get all the time error messages.
At the moment I work close together with Dublinbet to solve this problem , so I hope to get some support from you all.
Thank you ever so much for your co-operation.
John The Netherlands
John, maybe try to reinstall your Java application? Looks like the software problem, not Dublinbet?
i made a search in google, look
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do u use only one browser? maybe download and install another one. like chrome or Opera
Quote from: iggiv on Apr 24, 03:09 PM 2013
do u use only one browser? maybe download and install another one. like chrome or Opera
Hi Iggiv,
Thanks for all your help mate but I tried everything now a nothing works , I think the problem is world wide.
Never the less tomorrow they ( dublinbet ) will come back to me.
Will come back to you if I have any news.
Cheers
John
good luck bud