Thoughts...
It would be so great if we had found a bet selection that would be superior from the others and play it and make money from roulette as pro players.
Unfortunately as all mature roulette researchers know , till now no superior bet selection has been found. (I am not speaking here about visual ballistics or bias play)
All mathematicians that have made their roulette research based their research on probability-statistics of the previous spins.
They had tested everything.
Sleepers, repeaters, patterns, standard deviations, even voodoo bet selections. Nothing worked!
I have made my research and of course nothing has been found
My ultimate dream is to find a bet selection that is superior from the others and start my carrier as a pro player and travel around the world playing my system.
Here we have a nice forum that there are some experienced members as well and we all bother in finding a winning method.
It s so great to see that you are not alone in this and some others from all over the world are trying to achieve the same as you do.
We are very little in number...have you realized that? And this is good...(I am referring to the people that are exploring roulette for finding a winning way)
Let s all combine our forces from our knowledge and experience and try finding something great!
I know maybe there isn t anything great about roulette...but being in here means that deeply inside us, we want something to exist.
Just a motivation post from me... :)
Quote from: Asxetos on Feb 23, 06:53 AM 2014
Thoughts...
It would be so great if we had found a bet selection that would be superior from the others and play it and make money from roulette as pro players.
Unfortunately as all mature roulette researchers know , till now no superior bet selection has been found. (I am not speaking here about visual ballistics or bias play)
All mathematicians that have made their roulette research based their research on probability-statistics of the previous spins.
They had tested everything.
Sleepers, repeaters, patterns, standard deviations, even voodoo bet selections. Nothing worked!
I have made my research and of course nothing has been found
My ultimate dream is to find a bet selection that is superior from the others and start my carrier as a pro player and travel around the world playing my system.
Here we have a nice forum that there are some experienced members as well and we all bother in finding a winning method.
It s so great to see that you are not alone in this and some others from all over the world are trying to achieve the same as you do.
We are very little in number...have you realized that? And this is good...(I am referring to the people that are exploring roulette for finding a winning way)
Let s all combine out forces from our knowledge and experience and try finding something great!
I know maybe there isn t anything great about roulette...but being in here means that deeply inside us, we want something to exist.
Just a motivation post from me... :)
If you really want to become a pro. You have to work hard at it. There will be never, never be an easy way out.
Working hard means you have to practice what you want to become pro at.
Here is a system/method, learn it and avoid doing the same mistakes over and over. If by playing it, with enough bankroll. I mean the author has said 10 times, I personally think 15 to 20 times should be safe. 15 to 20 times because you want to play as a pro.
This system/method is flat betting. We all know roulette is about LUCK. Let's think for a minute, if you were a good and honest mechanic, would you really need LUCK to get customer's?
Bottom line, if your bankroll has had a drop, this system/method you will always recover. Recovery might be a grind but it will recover.
GOOD LUCK in finding anything better than this.
Here it is: link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.0 (link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=2128.0)
Quote from: Asxetos on Feb 23, 06:53 AM 2014
It would be so great if we had found a bet selection that would be superior from the others and play it and make money from roulette as pro players.
This is where people make their
first mistake.
Think about it logically for a few minutes. The casino would go out of business if 50 reds and 50 blacks did not come up on average every 100 spins. (That's not even taking into account the 0)
This rule holds true for all the bet locations. (excluding bias play as you rightly say)
So there is no winning bet selection full stop. It's a fallacy to believe that there ever could be.
That's the bad news out of the way.
Now for the good news!
The casinos would also go bust if those 50 red and 50 blacks came out within those specific 100 spins.
We all know it just does not work that way in reality.
You could say.....
''Though the whole is still equal to the sum of it's parts, the parts themselves are not simply abbreviated versions of that whole''
So the player has to teach themselves to become a winner by reading the game well enough to get more decisions right than wrong. This can be achieved by understanding the ebbs and flows of the permanence as it is coming out.
Think of it like this...
Let's say it's raining outside and you need to go out. So you take your umbrella. Now one minute after stepping outside it stops raining.
Would you take your umbrella down?
Most sensible people would! Now think of the player who is going to continue playing red even though black is mostly showing.
He is keeping the umbrella up and is going to look for a bigger one if he is using a progression. Imagine that! :D Crazy!
The example above with the red/black is just a simple one, but you get the idea.
So anybody hanging around waiting for a winning bet selection will be waiting a long time. There isn't one!
Teaching yourself to win and learning to
read the game takes a long time but at least that's achievable.
Azim you don t know me so it s natural not to know how much time and effort I have spent in my research and sure you don t know how many new consepts of betting I have thought of ...consepts that the word have never seen but they also failed as it s natural.
I ll take a look at the system you posted here but I know for sure that if a system would beat roulette , wouldn t be on a public sight. But thanks anyway for the time you spent to copy/paste the link :thumbsup:
Ugly bob are you gizmotron? Because you sound exactly like him...
I do not think Ugly is Giz.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 23, 07:50 AM 2014
I do not think Ugly is Giz.
a student of him maybe?
Because they speak exact the same for this "guessing-betting" consept
@asxetos,
No, I am not Gizmotron.
I do agree with a lot of what he had to say however.
Quote from: ugly bob on Feb 23, 08:00 AM 2014
@asxetos,
No, I am not Gizmotron.
I do agree with a lot of what he had to say however.
Its obvious ;D
Quote from: Asxetos on Feb 23, 07:47 AM 2014
Azim you don t know me so it s natural not to know how much time and effort I have spent in my research and sure you don t know how many new consepts of betting I have thought of ...consepts that the word have never seen but they also failed as it s natural.
I ll take a look at the system you posted here but I know for sure that if a system would beat roulette , wouldn t be on a public sight. But thanks anyway for the time you spent to copy/paste the link :thumbsup:
Ugly bob are you gizmotron? Because you sound exactly like him...
You are correct. I think the author is well known for his systems/method. He has his reasons for posting it.
Read it, let me know your opinion about it. Would love to hear it.
Speaking of him....Where is Winkel anyway?
Is he still on forums? Under a diff nickname maybe?
I had respect or him as he was one of the clever and experienced members in roulette.
He is around or at least was till middle or end of January 2014.
Asxetos
I've also spent a lot of my time to find out either "the solution" or something very close to "the solution".
I mean a strategy or a method or a system that could be considered solid,resistant with a very low probability to fail.
Nothing exists at 100% probability of not failing!
First conclusion of my researches:
there is no positive or negative progression (as well as flat bet,of course) that you can invent in order to win.
The table limit,an exceptional and long unbalance,the Zero tax are elements that make the roulette "almost" unbeatable.
More the progression is long(or more spins you play) more you lose for sure.
Second conclusion:
if you enter a Casino twice a year,it's only a matter of luck.Useless "to work" with a boring and complicated system.
If you enter,as I do,100 times per year, luck is not very important,but the number of spins you play per year are very important.
It must be as low as possible.
And of course it's important where you place your bets......
Third conclusion:
bet selection:it doesn't exist in the short term(next spin or next few spins are unpredictable) but next spins(10,20,50??) are related to the previous spins,because the law of probability must be fulfilled.
The only way that gave me and is giving me satisfaction for a long time is to play in favour of an unbalance,that is much more frequent that a perfect equilibrium in a given number of spins(10,20,50,100??)
On even chances,on double streets,on patterns of 2 or 3....?Some bets are better than others
Fourth conclusion:
you need a big bankroll. Personnally I use 2000 units,even if I play with flat bet or maximum 2 units.
When I win(very often),the sum is very low compared with bkr and risk(1%,2%...)
That's why I consider that a pro gambler don't exist at roulette.
OK at Black Jack and Baccarat(Punto Banco),not roulette.
Of course I have fixed some rules that are the result of experience,long playing sessions and money "invested".
Today a player can explain his system(GUT,for instance) and I can write down the permanence that make it lose.
This means that a roulette,sooner or later,will generate the same permanence.
Of corse this is valid also for my system,that has been built up following the conclusion I have illustrated above.
Good luck
Well said baretta28.
My thoughts exactly.
Like Ralph said, all systems will eventually lose, but what else do we have?
Having said that, this link points to how I've been playing lately. Reply #8 states the principle.
(As a side note, there's some interesting posts by our beloved Ralph in this topic that are worth reading.)
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10132.msg89800#msg89800 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=10132.msg89800#msg89800)
The larger imbalance you wait for before beginning betting, the more effective.
This is a flat bet only method. (Although, if you have the bankroll, a mild progression might be risked.)
I track all three even chances and play the best candidate.
This also works tracking streaks vs chops. An imbalance there is the same as an imbalance between colors or hi/lo or odd/even.
Of course, the larger imbalance you wait for before betting, the longer we have to track between imbalances. This means you have to adjust the unit size to make the effort worthwhile.
As others have pointed out, this will have losing sessions, so be mentally and financially prepared for them.
The way I've stated baretta28's comment about a permanence that will kill your method is, if there are spins that will cause your bet to lose, and there always are, eventually enough of them will clump together so as to kill your system.
This is why a reasonable stop loss is 2nd in importance only to "don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose!"
GLC
GLC
thanks for your message and for the link.
Very interesting.
We have a similar approach but with a few differences.
Here below my additional thoughts:
-I'm afraid of something that is "due".I prefer inbalance(similar but not equivalent to trends).
There is a math law(arcsine distribution) that states that it's better to follow the repeater than the sleeper.
A lot of examples(using head or tail) on Google.
-I play only "closed cycles",that means a pre-determined number of spins(25 or 100)
-My bet unit is high and I stop at + 1 unit.Easy? Sometimes at the first bet,sometimes after 2 hours at the table,sometimes a few days are necessary....)
Of course a Casino is close to my home.
-I'm thinking to give up roulette and play my system at Baccarat(lower VIG on even chances)
beretta28 all the things you said are exactly my point of view too!
I also think that repeaters is the way and the reason is because repeaters are showing up because are trying to correct the imbalance.
If you start a business is there anyone guaranteeing you that you will be successful? Is there a 100% sure method to succeed in business? Is this reason not to start a business? Does that mean you can not become successful?
If you are looking for a 100% sure method that will win consistently, quit this game. There is no such thing.
What there is are strategies that are better than others! The benefit of a really good strategy is that is offers you better chances of being a winner than a loser, but nothing is 100% sure. Of the 100 people who will follow a really good strategy 60% might be winners, while the rest 40% would have lost money. According to my book this is a great strategy. Yet you can always be unlucky. There are always what statisticians call fat tails of the distribution. Roulette is part of life and cannot ignore the laws of life. There can be Harvard students who don't achieve anything, does that mean Harvard is not the best university in the world? You must understand that an advantage does not always results to success. And this is true for the casino and for he player as it is for a Harvard student and everyone else. In anything we do.
In what other aspect of your life do you ask for the certainty that you ask from roulette? Your health? Your wife? Your profession? Your soccer team? Why do you think it is reasonable to ask for unrealistic certainty in a casino game?
I wouldn't say there is a "sure-fure" successful system, but
there are systems that average high hit-rates "Hit-and-Run" style.
Even with a winning system, proper bankroll, self-control and money management you have
to be very careful where you play. (The best casinos may rig their games unfortunately)
If such a bet selection exists, it can be easily duplicated.
In fact, if you aspire to be a pro gambler, try playing poker would be tons better. :thumbsup:
I've made thousands playing in poker home games...
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 09, 12:12 AM 2014
(The best casinos may rig their games unfortunately)
B&M or on-line ?
RNG or Live Wheel ?
Thanking you in advance...... :thumbsup:
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Quote from: ugly bob on Feb 23, 07:36 AM 2014
So there is no winning bet selection full stop. It's a fallacy to believe that there ever could be.
I just cannot agree with these sentences, but unfortunately I cannot prove otherwise :-[
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Quote(The best casinos may rig their games unfortunately)
Quote from: ddarko on Mar 10, 08:19 AM 2014
B&M or on-line ?
RNG or Live Wheel ?
Thanking you in advance...... :thumbsup:
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This is a very controversial issue. And a very serious one. Despite the usual answer "casinos don't need to steal, they have the house advantage" I have evidence that human greed can lead even reputable casinos to less than reputable game conditions, if you know what I mean
Quote from: Kav on Mar 10, 08:37 AM 2014
I have evidence that human greed can lead even reputable casinos to less than reputable game conditions, if you know what I mean
Not exactly Kav, please feel free to elaborate :thumbsup:
But RIGGED is a different thing altogether right ?
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Quote from: ddarko on Mar 10, 08:21 AM 2014
I just cannot agree with these sentences, but unfortunately I cannot prove otherwise :-[
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I am not saying it's impossible to win ddarko. It's all about betting the right amount at the right time in order to ensure that you win more when you win than you lose when you lose. It's a near enough certainty that you will get more decisions wrong than right in the long run no matter how smart or lucky you think you are. MM and timing your bets are far more important than bet selection.
Quote from: ugly bob on Mar 10, 08:55 AM 2014
I am not saying it's impossible to win ddarko. It's all about betting the right amount at the right time in order to ensure that you win more when you win than you lose when you lose. It's a near enough certainty that you will get more decisions wrong than right in the long run no matter how smart or lucky you think you are. MM and timing your bets are far more important than bet selection.
I know your weren't saying it's impossible to win Bob ;) I just feel for some reason there are better "bet selections" than others is all..... But it's only a thought & I cannot for the life of me prove you view incorrect >:(
Re MM, I only try/test methods/systems that are flat betting :thumbsup:
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Quote from: ddarko on Mar 10, 08:19 AM 2014
B&M or on-line ?
RNG or Live Wheel ?
Thanking you in advance...... :thumbsup:
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All of the above. I'm not saying all casinos rig their games. It
is up to the player to ferret out which casinos offer a fair game.
More than likely you will get a fair game in an environment like Dublinbet (where there are actual bettors in person) than with one dealer/cropier (without the actual bettors present).
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 10, 09:06 AM 2014
All of the above. I'm not saying all casinos rig their games. It
is up to the player to ferret out which casinos offer a fair game.
More than likely you will get a fair game in an environment like Dublinbet (where there are actual bettors in person) than with one dealer/cropier (without the actual bettors present).
Ok Proof fair enough, but I have to ask how to you come to this decision ? That's what I'm interested in ;)
& also why did say in your initial post the "best casinos" ?
Thanks for getting back to me :thumbsup:
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I used to think bet selection was KING and only flat betting was the way to win.
I was wrong (IMO) and also limiting my approach towards winning.
MM doesn't need to be some up as you lose scary progression betting on every spin either.
Two consecutive wins are all anybody really needs if they have the bankroll and the nerve to see things through.
Type in 'sethbets' into google and read his blog and webpage. The guy talks sense and can back up his claims with results.
It's all free info and he has been doing it for years.
cheers
How to you come to this decision?--DDarko
I've played online long enough to see from my available choices the Real
Money RNG's change their behavior after four minutes (from years of observation)
*Although BetVoyager has been an exception*
"Live Casinos"-if you watch closely if you win a significant amount (say over $50) the ball will not scatter for many spins. I've seen a cropier drop the ball in (instead of spin in around). Foam balls and even a ball jump from resting in one pocket after the spin finishes.
(I didn't sense any cheating from Dublinbet as
far as spinning the ball/ wheel behaviors, however.)
Quote from: ugly bob on Mar 10, 09:16 AM 2014
I used to think bet selection was KING and only flat betting was the way to win.
I was wrong (IMO) and also limiting my approach towards winning.
MM doesn't need to be some up as you lose scary progression betting on every spin either.
Two consecutive wins are all anybody really needs if they have the bankroll and the nerve to see things through.
Type in 'sethbets' into google and read his blog and webpage. The guy talks sense and can back up his claims with results.
It's all free info and he has been doing it for years.
cheers
Each to their own Bob ;) I wish you well with your future endeavors :thumbsup:
Checked out sethbets, thanks......
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Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 10, 09:21 AM 2014
How to you come to this decision?--DDarko
I've played online long enough to see from my available choices the Real
Money RNG's change their behavior after four minutes (from years of observation)
*Although BetVoyager has been an exception*
"Live Casinos"-if you watch closely if you win a significant amount (say over $50) the ball will not scatter for many spins. I've seen a cropier drop the ball in (instead of spin in around). Foam balls and even a ball jump from resting in one pocket after the spin finishes.
(I didn't sense any cheating from Dublinbet as
far as spinning the ball/ wheel behaviors, however.)
well I never touch RNG as to me it's not roulette...
re your live casinos example I have a feeling your maybe on about a certain Latvia feed ;)
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For real wheel potential & actual cheating go to wheel maker Cammergh.com & view their products. They have air ball wheels with variable rotor speed & air jet holes in the ball track. (Smart Live air wheels have these Cammergh models). They even state where they land the ball & where it should have landed with the speed control off.
They have wheels ready now to replace live dealers (if the regs changed to let them) with random ball launch, manipulated wheel & ball speed said to be the answer to combat VB & mini video ball position predictors. Go to that site, it's not my speculation it's all revealed by Cammergh.
Air wheels are a version of RNG. RNG itself, air/auto wheels, slots are all types of Electronic Gaming Machines. This is gaming regulator law virtually everywhere. They are legally allowed to CHEAT as long as they meet the payout % schedule. Audits only look at longer term trends, not a particular part of a bet session where you may have suddenly gone from hero to zero. Again not from me but seen on various Gaming Reg. sites.
Proof - I played Live dealer Party Casino last week (Latvian lady dealers) 1 of many many sessions. Off a 200 GBP I was 690 GBP ahead in a little under 4 hours off a 2 GBP min bet then to 5GBP at the 3 hr mark.
I've never seen the ball behaviour there like you speak of but you don't say the casinos name ? They always spin in one direction only. It's new dealer every 1/2 hr 24/7.
Quite a few of my bets were in the 100 - 150 GBP x 2 range. I was playing dbl 2 : 1 bets. Most importantly for me the Casino lost, with my plays at least.
RNG I agree. I never lose on them because I don't play them. My belief is they are rigged & 200% certain they cheat on every spin every day.
Quote from: Asxetos on Feb 23, 12:16 PM 2014
beretta28 all the things you said are exactly my point of view too!
I also think that repeaters is the way and the reason is because repeaters are showing up because are trying to correct the imbalance.
There is no 'reason' for anything in roulette, the repeaters could also be imbalance starting and maybe not correcting imbalance, thats just random at work.
Quote from: ausguy on Mar 10, 09:58 AM 2014
They even state where they land the ball & where it should have landed with the speed control off.
@ ausguy
Thanks for the link, I've looked across their website but cannot find where they state this ?
If you could point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated :thumbsup:
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*I can't find a casino with fair games online *whether they don't tamper with the games one way or another* (from my list of choices as a U.S. resident)*
They are legally allowed to CHEAT as long as
they meet the payout % schedule.--Ausguy
Exactly!! Better to play at a brick and
mortar casino if you want to gamble.
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I've never seen the ball behaviour there like you speak of but you don't say the casinos name ? They always spin in one direction only. It's new dealer every 1/2 hr 24/7. -Ausguy
Foam balls and lack of scatter (Microgaming Live Casino)-Ladbrokes, All Slots, All Jackpots, WildJack Casino (when US residents were allowed to play).
Celtic Casino, Five Dimes Live Roulette-(balls jumping from one number to another after resting, dealers sneezing on balls and spinning them, several consecutive balls without scatter on the rotor)
BetPhoenix Live Roulette: Dropping the ball in instead of
spinning, barely spinning the wheel while the ball spins around.
Proof - Yes OK I get your points - Microgaming, Ladbrokes, all slots, sub standard balls & handling etc. I don't play from that group so it's not a worry for me here in OZ land. In fact just going from memory I think Ladbrokes is one of the casinos & any of their affiliates that has OZ as a non a/c country ? Will Hill was here too & they pulled out & cancelled all accounts & also blocked OZ players. It was all about non compliance to certain betting rules here & flicking OZ in the hope of getting a new super lucrative USA gaming licence ?
As to B & M casinos & there's only one here in Sydney OZ (monopoly) the worrying trend is the large reduction in live dealer spun wheels where they have over the years have flicked the $2.50 tables (as in inside bets) & in recent months flicked all bar 1 or 2 $5 tables to now offer, as the base, $10 tables. For EC players costs have climbed from min. $10 then to $25 & now $50.
All wheels where/are 37 number single zero wheels but on my last visit late last year the $5 wheel had a double zero inserted down the bottom of the wheel between 5R & 10B. It wasn't like they put a USA configured 38 wheel in, no it was a HYBRID keeping all the other numbers in the normal Euro pattern ? They've also the created a super mini theatre @ 100 + touch screen games for ONE - admittedly still a live dealer spun game, badged as Rapid Roulette - & TWO the proliferation of Vegas Star HD replicated real video'd RNG games.
Then there's a few RNG auto wheels sprinkled around the gaming floor. Any RNG game is allowed to CHEAT even the ones in B & M casinos. % comply 1st then it's a green light every time to CHEAT & RAKE IN the profits.
Overall the casino is more tacky now & a less enjoyable place to play/visit. It's noisy too with their overly loud PA's blasting out their promo's at certain times over a number of hours. In the wash up, me no like, me no go, me now play live dealer on line.
ddarko - I just checked the Cammergh site (haven't looked at it since last year) & they've edited down their RRS Random Rotor Speed info. to what it used to be but there's still enough left to get the basics & the video demo is still there to download.
Ok to find what I've been talking about it's 1. Revisit the Cammergh site. 2. Click on product. 3. View the roulette wheel choices. 4. click on the 360 RRS choice. Read what they write there, it used to be about x3 more than what they have there now. If further interested view the short video demo.
@ ausguy
thank you for that, like the fool I am I only looked at the "slingshot" section.
Sorry my bad.... :-[
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What the casinos (and wheel manufacturers) do, to make winning harder, gives you clues as to what works.
Quote from: Steve on Mar 11, 01:37 AM 2014
What the casinos (and wheel manufacturers) do, to make winning harder, gives you clues as to what works.
How do your machines counteract this Steve ?
They can't counteract as the final manipulation comes after no more bets. Although gambling regs ban spin manipulation on dealer spun wheels so that's where the spin computers can potentially still perform.
Quote from: ausguy on Mar 11, 06:34 AM 2014
They can't counteract as the final manipulation comes after no more bets. Although gambling regs ban spin manipulation on dealer spun wheels so that's where the spin computers can potentially still perform.
I'm interested to see, what Steve's views are, he's "hidden" but online right now, so hopefully we can get an answer to my question.....
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Detailed response at link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14268 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14268) but only visible to 250+ post members
Looking for a way to bet?
This is my method :-
I am re-entering the casinos after a time away.
I understand Jack Wise Kennedy's Positional Roulette.
I believe you should follow the wheel.
I believe that you should bet SAL
I believe that you should only bet 4 chips
I have my own system based on Jack's reasoning
I call it the House System
I break the numbers on the wheel except 0 - down into a single digit
House 1 : 1-10-19-28
House 2 : 2-11-20-29
House 3 : 3-12-21-30
House 4 : 4-13-22-31
House 5 : 5-14-23-32
House 6 : 6-15-24-33
House 7 : 7-16-25-34
House 8 : 8-17-26-35
House 9 : 9-18-27-36
Houses : 2-4-6-8 are black
Houses : 3-5-7-9 are red
House 1 : has 2 red and 2 black
I only record house numbers on a card, usually waiting for 9 spins.
So just randomly looking at 9 spins after 0 on Dublinbet I see : 9-7-6-7-4-8-5-9-8. Please note these are House numbers - not actual numbers! For instance first number which I call House 9 was 36, second number House 7 was 16, third number House 6 was 33 and so on.
You will not see the dealer hit all 9 houses in 9 spins which mean some must repeat and there will be no shows just as Jack says in his ramblings. You will probably never see that same sequence of houses for months! In the above sequence you will note that Houses 1-2-3 have not been hit yet which means the others must repeat in 9 spins.
After 9 spins I now have a little bit of history to work with.
So the last number hit was in house 8(I am not interested in what the actual number was!)
I now only have 3 houses to choose from : 2-4-6 .I do not play for house 8 to repeat unless it has repeated before.
How do I choose? : past history and a 'feel' for the game. I only bet 4 chips and I only bet SAL.
So for instance I may bet house 6 which is : 6-15-24-33
There are other ways to bet but this is the basis.
Give it a try. It's no use checking it out over 10,000 rng numbers because I am playing against a real wheel in real time on a short term basis. Everyday you walk in a casino you will see trends and sequences - it's up to you to take advantage of these short term trends - make a profit - and walk.
I play to win. I do not play to play. There is a difference.
SAS