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Title: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: esoito on Sep 24, 07:58 PM 2010
Something to ponder:

If you have a 'gentle' staking system (no aggrrrrrrrrrrrrressive progressions) then, basically, it doesn't really matter all that much about which particular numbers you bet on.

That thought developed as I read Victor's ATILA Money Management post.

Whaddya reckon?


Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: ThomasGrant on Sep 24, 11:11 PM 2010
Quote from: esoito on Sep 24, 07:58 PM 2010
Something to ponder:

If you have a 'gentle' staking system (no aggrrrrrrrrrrrrressive progressions) then, basically, it doesn't really matter all that much about which particular numbers you bet on.

That thought developed as I read Victor's ATILA Money Management post.

Whaddya reckon?


Do you have the link for Victor's ATILA Money Management post?
Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: furple on Sep 24, 11:25 PM 2010
I think this is it Thomas.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/the-atila-money-management/msg478/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/the-atila-money-management/msg478/)
Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: Bayes on Sep 25, 03:54 AM 2010
Quote from: esoito on Sep 24, 07:58 PM 2010
Something to ponder:

If you have a 'gentle' staking system (no aggrrrrrrrrrrrrressive progressions) then, basically, it doesn't really matter all that much about which particular numbers you bet on.

Actually, this is the exact opposite of what is recommended according to the maths. In a game like roulette (or any other which has a long-term mathematical negative expectation), to be "bold" is best, and to be timid is worst. The optimum staking for roulette is actually the martingale (or something similarly aggressive) :D

This is because "gentle" staking plans increase the amount of bets you make (you're at the table for longer before making a profit) and this increases your exposure to the house edge. If you have a positive expectation, the reverse is true (to be timid is best).

So Ken has it right with his progressions.  :)

Personally, I don't believe staking is enough on its own to win long-term, you need some way to shorten the length of those losing runs.
Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 25, 03:59 AM 2010
I really do enjoy reading your posts Bayes   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: esoito on Sep 26, 07:33 PM 2010
"...you need some way to shorten the length of those losing runs. "

Hmmm...that would be an interesting thread. Any takers?
Title: Re: Heresy? Or fact?
Post by: VLS on Sep 26, 08:11 PM 2010
Quote from: esoito on Sep 26, 07:33 PM 2010
"...you need some way to shorten the length of those losing runs. "

Hmmm...that would be an interesting thread. Any takers?

Getting the flat-betting edge?

More edge = less theoretical dispersion, right?  :)