For each spin, bet the unhit part of the particular columnstreet hit with 1 street. When 5 streets are bet, begin +1u progression. Continue this procedure until hit. When hit, and if you do not reach a new high, keep the bets, but switch bet to the unhit part of the particular columnstreet/split hit. Stop and restart when reached a new high.
I made a video
Bankroll: 400u
Stoploss: -300u
Wingoal: +200u
9/10 Games won
Wrong description sry :S it should be SPLITS, not STREETS
For each spin, bet the unhit part of the particular columnstreet hit with 1 split. When 5 splits are bet, begin +1u progression. Continue this procedure until hit. When hit, and if you do not reach a new high, keep the bets, but switch bet to the unhit part of the particular columnstreet/split hit. Stop and restart when reached a new high.
I don't know if everbody understand this part(?): When hit, and if you do not reach a new high, keep the bets, but switch bet to the unhit part of the particular columnstreet/split hit. (and continue procedure)
That's not included in the video,
Take a break Ignatusumsystemuscreatorus,
or just focus in few systems. :wink:
Quote from: Kattila on May 31, 12:20 PM 2017
Take a break Ignatusumsystemuscreatorus,
or just focus in few systems. :wink:
Why? I won't stop until im satisfied, that IS until i find something i like, that i can play for real myself. This has 9/10 wins so far, why you're complaining? :/
Then good luck Ignatus , just keep testing 10 or 20 sessions ( even if good result) and
then go play it for real .....you will have big suprise, the result will be v. possible very different.
What i want to tell you is to test more sessions ...more spins....much more.
And each day create one or two systems ? that is just without any sens...but is your time, energy
and your money after all y just say my opinion... to focus and test for more spins only few systems.
I really wish you (because you deserve it ) to find a good system
Quote from: Kattila on May 31, 01:53 PM 2017What i want to tell you is to test more sessions ...more spins....much more.
Thanks Kattila, but from experience i KNOW that a losing system won't make it through 20 sessions, and 20 session is the ultimate Acid Test. So, after 20 sessions i can decide if it's worth continue testing or not. Furthermore, my hope is always that someone will help me out testing, but that seldom/never happens. and i can't code in RX only very basic ...so that's the problem, and also i don't really think people appriciate my efforts...anyway
Quote from: ignatus on May 31, 02:00 PM 2017
i can't code in RX only very basic ...
Dont give up, its really an advantge to code your system to power test. Start small and use the f2 key alot to bring up the intellisense which is very useful and have helped me many times when i was learning.
Quote from: celescliff on May 31, 02:16 PM 2017
Dont give up, its really an advantge to code your system to power test. Start small and use the f2 key alot to bring up the intellisense which is very useful and have helped me many times when i was learning.
Problem is to code triggers and progressions, for that you HAVE to be clever, and i don't think i'll ever be so smart.. :S
Quote from: ignatus on May 31, 02:30 PM 2017i don't think i'll ever be so smart
My friend, i am 26 years old, emigrant, van driver, without a high school diploma and i can code everything that i want. Try to put all your efforts in reading rx code manual, instead of loosing time by testing each session manually. And i'm sure that you will see and understand that a guessing game is a long term looser. Your sessions aren't finite. Your session lenght is always based on your bankroll. You have invented so many strategies but none of those have passed "your expectation"! Maybe it's Time to change a view or to find a different approach to this wonderful game? Maybe creating a game based on another aspects of randomness will lead to, atleast, different graphs, or will triger another thoughts?
Doing the same thing (using the same approach or view) over and over, expecting different results, is close to insanity...
Moderators, PLEASE, can i like my previouse post? :twisted:
"You can't rate your own post"...
Ohhh please... :xd:
Ignatus many of your systems are under-rated!
I tried the so called KTF and many times got deep into a whole so thought ditch this!!
I was about $200 down then thought I'll use Igantus's system.
I think this has deep merit as I used this at the live casino and won back my $200 which got me back to break even.
The deepest I got down to was 5 units on 5 splits.
The result was 17 wins with highest drawdown of $25 for 1 bet (5 units x 5 splits)
A good mix Ignatus!!
27% chance of winning with 5 splits is a good probability play.
Perhaps I was lucky but have no worries about applying this strategy again.
Just because some systems get more posts does not necessarily mean the system is any better than others.
Again I think sometimes systems don't need to be complex, the right mix of progression and numbers is the key.
If anyone has a flat bet system that tests the sands of time I'm sure only he/she would know about it and would have already been thought out by more than one person as their are more limitations with flat betting options than a system that involves adding progressions...my opinion of course :thumbsup:
Quote from: Bettingking on Jun 04, 01:08 AM 2017I think this has deep merit as I used this at the live casino and won back my $200 which got me back to break even
Great :) good you reminding me of old systems (that completly forgot about!) :S perhaps i should do more testings with this one, i've been occupied playing repeaters system,
Thanks Bettingking! :)
No problem. :xd:
In my opinion if you keep rotating your best 10 systems and not keep using the same system over and over, one after the other when it wins once, don't you think that is 'The Ignatus Holy Grail - Best of the Best'??
I am refining what I think are your best 10 :thumbsup: and will let you know. Also will be interested in your opinion of your best 10. Cheers!
Over and over = eventual loser on ANY SYSTEM!!
PS: Did you know I have kept most of your systems from day 1 - I think it is as least 700 systems to date :thumbsup:
** Trial and error is the best method for success!!**
...oh yeah and I have tracked my successes of your combo systems only at LIVE CASINOS with real money.
REAL MONEY = $1 min. bets tables (touch screen, with live dealer) = $14,570 profit just over 2 years with 1 day a fortnight visit.
Everyone else can PO with the negativity with your attempts ...Ignatus = Keep the Faith
Quote from: Bettingking on Jun 04, 01:44 AM 2017PS: Did you know I have kept most of your systems from day 1 - I think it is as least 700 systems to date
haha...that's crazy! but enjoy creating systems! Now, my fault was to test/play only *short term*, now im trying to play a system long term, and with a decent stoploss, you'd recover, and continue making profit...
thanks again Bettingking :)
Yes that is the ultimate challenge.
But think about it though on average that is $280 per fortnight at 2-3 hours max at the casino over 2 years. That is not an unrealistic expectation. Also betting the same units throughout and not compounding bets even when your bankroll increases. It allows for steady growth. Like I always say greed is the killer of 90% of people who expect more and more in 1 session.
Wow great going Bettingking :thumbsup:
Any systems you recommend that hold up for you usually?
Hi Ignatius, in the meantime I have downloaded Roulette xtreme. I fed the numbers from my local casino here in Duisburg Casino and was pretty flabbergasted. With the spins from that casino I almost lost every second game. I am pretty positive I followed the rules meticulously like shown in your last video.
In order to be 110% certain I will repeat the challenge and test again. Only this time I will publish the spins here in the forum, so all can compare if mistakes were done on my side or not.
I have to stand corrected. I just realized that I did not follow the rules. I did not stop at five chevals, but kept adding cheval after cheval plus progression, which wiped out my bank account almost every time.
Today after having realized my blunder I played three sessions with my Duisburg casino numbers winning all three sessions. I did not swap out the cheval like Ignatus recommends though.
I will run my planned session tests (hopefully with the correct rules this time) and be back with my findings.
Quote from: Tekunda on Jun 06, 08:58 AM 2017Today after having realized my blunder I played three sessions with my Duisburg casino numbers winning all three sessions.
Great, hope lady luck is with you! :) - let me know your results,
8) This may be one of my best systems, ever. im planning to play this for real...
I use progression (after 5 splits bet) 2 2..(Then +1u bet, until hit) so the progressionline will look like; 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ....
I play the same way, but with a tweak/modification; -Bet every *new split* that hits within each *new hit columnstreet*. (only 1 split bet per columnstreet) until 5 splits are bet, in a progressive bet (1+1+1+1+1 Splits bet)
So, Now it will be a repeaters system (instead of betting cold splits)
Progression, same as last post (when 5 splits are bet); 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9....(until hit)
Here is one test-result. I'm thinking a stoploss after 7u bet are lost. That would be a drawdown of ~750u..played with 5u bets (And that's the BR needed to play this) ofcourse you could play with a smaller bank of 500u also....I'll show another chart of loss/recovery when i have time, in this chart, the drop, Was a hit within the last step of that progressionline (7u)
Here is an example of loss/recovery.....and what it Seems, this is a longterm winner?......I stop/takeloss after 7u are bet and lost.
Steve i could claim that 100 000$ reward now thank you! :wink:
Great work Ignatus! :thumbsup: Ran a test and it turned out good! Pity I can't either do big tests so I do it manually.
Thanks for testing :)
continuing this session +5000u.
As you can see in the second chart, i have currently the second highest winrate on the leaderboard, 1.08.
Why people don't like it? It's for free, it's no "big secret"....well? Time will tell,.. (still more testing is needed), but so far so good.
HI with the tweaks and progression which way would you now play it exactly ? I will test the response you give but have to do it manually
Hi 6th-sense :) This is the version im playing;
Bet every *new split* that hits within each *new hit columnstreet*. (only 1 split bet per columnstreet) until 5 splits are bet, in a progressive bet (1+1+1+1+1 Splits bet)
So, Now it will be a repeaters system (instead of betting cold splits)
Progression, (when 5 splits are bet); 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 STOP.
A "columnStreet" is for an example 1-10, or 15-24...IF number 10 hits you bet split 7/10. with in that columnstreet 1-10... If number 18 hits you bet split 15/18....and so on BUT you only bet 1 Split within each columnstreet....
So no switching over at a certain point to bet unhit splits instead ? And simply ignore the split if it hits next to split bet in same colum street
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 11:12 AM 2018
So no switching over at a certain point to bet unhit splits instead ? And simply ignore the split if it hits next to split bet in same colum street
Yes. that's correct.
Thanks for quick reply I’ll go test it out out live dealers and record results..be slow but will let you know how it gets on...so 1 unit on 1st bet 1 unit on second bet etc when 5 unhit bets are out then up the progression we go...so stay at 1 unit until 5 splits are out then progress
Yes! That's right! :)
Thanks for testing, i look forward to your result!
cheers O0
Playing this right now and up 70 units...but sometimes it takes a while to get those qualifying splits so when I do get them...and hit do I take the small loss or keep going for profit?
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 02:39 PM 2018
Playing this right now and up 70 units...but sometimes it takes a while to get those qualifying splits so when I do get them...and hit do I take the small loss or keep going for profit?
Alright :) yes, after each hit -you restart- (with that single split hit).
Thanks for quick reply any hit start again regardless if down
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 02:51 PM 2018
Thanks for quick reply any hit start again regardless if down
Normally you should be in profit for each hit, it's only if the unbet splits (within the columnstreet bet) (or zero) keep hitting (before starting progression)...but that would be rare events....
Only happened a couple of times I took the loss up 100 units now playing real money low .10 value just to see how long before I lose full balance...worth the loss for the test ...will let you know how I get on
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 03:05 PM 2018
Only happened a couple of times I took the loss up 100 units now playing real money low .10 value just to see how long before I lose full balance...worth the loss for the test ...will let you know how I get on
Alright, but then, keep the progressionline, and Stop/restart after 7u bet/lost. I've lost the progressionline 4-5 times now,
but i've always recovered and on the Multiplayer roulette im now +6000$ , played with 5u bets, for 3 days....
This was ment for Live-wheels, but perhaps i can work on RNG also (idk)?
Anyway, good luck!! :thumbsup:
I’m on William Hill live slingshot..so you are playing to take the profit and and not resetting after a win? I’m resetting after a hit like you said just hovering around at moment but not lost been up to number four on chart still at 100 units up but I’ll carry on for a bit longer and see what happens..so is it now go for profit not reset..? Resetting seems fine at moment
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 03:31 PM 2018
I’m on William Hill live slingshot..so you are playing to take the profit and and not resetting after a win? I’m resetting after a hit like you said just hovering around at moment but not lost been up to number four on chart still at 100 units up but I’ll carry on for a bit longer and see what happens..so is it now go for profit not reset..? Resetting seems fine at moment
Well? The way *i* would play if you're at profit withdraw that amount, depending on your BR---- so what i figure, a complete loss of the progressionline played with 5u bets is 820u. That would be 820/5= 164u (played with 1u bets), ..(That is the amount/BR needed, to go through the whole progressionline).....
Here is an example of my gameplay (with 5u bets)--look at the chart, i lost the progressionline 2 times, BUT then i recovered..and im in profit. O0
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 05, 05:33 AM 2018
I play the same way, but with a tweak/modification; -Bet every *new split* that hits within each *new hit columnstreet*. (only 1 split bet per columnstreet) until 5 splits are bet, in a progressive bet (1+1+1+1+1 Splits bet)
So, Now it will be a repeaters system (instead of betting cold splits)
Progression, same as last post (when 5 splits are bet); 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9....(until hit)
Could you make a vid of the new way you play please
Well that’s it for tonight...up 180 units ...I reset on every win..in plus or not..but gradually creeped up...have a busy day tommoz but will give it another round tomorrow at some point..
I’ll keep bankroll in it’s not much to lose want to see how many bankrolls it’ll win before busting ..
Others should test it...it’s very easy to do ...highest level I went to was 4 units on each split
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 04:37 PM 2018Well that’s it for tonight...up 180 units
congrats to your winnings! :)
Here is the video-demo O0
I didn’t think you were betting on the same splits in the same double streets like you did on split 26/29. And split 27/30 I was playing for 5 unique splits in the ds in the column ? I wouldn’t have played split 27/30 as it’s in the same ds ? But it’s working great the way I’m going
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 06, 05:00 PM 2018
I didn’t think you were betting on the same splits in the same double streets like you did on split 26/29. And split 27/30 I was playing for 5 unique splits in the ds in the column ? I wouldn’t have played split 27/30 as it’s in the same ds ? But it’s working great the way I’m going
Alright, but it has nothing to do with the Doublestreets, it has to do with the
columnstreetsas i tried to explain;
A "columnStreet" is for an example 1-10, or 15-24...IF number 10 hits you bet split 7/10. with in that columnstreet 1-10... If number 18 hits you bet split 15/18....and so on BUT you only bet 1 Split within each columnstreet..
LOl got you..have to change the way I bet..still seems to work but I could have been lucky I’ll do it properly tomorrow thanks for clarifying I was betting for an individual split in each double street in the column and not betting any other split in that ds no wonder it was taking so long but worked
Continuing the test session....
As you can see in this chart i lost the progressionline 9 Times, BUT STILL i recovered and reached a new high! O0
Hi Ignat,
Can you explain what you mean by only bet "only bet 1 Split within each columnstreet..?
If I get a 6 then a 9 I would only bet the 6 and 3, Is this the correct meaning?
Also are the numbers you are testing on Roulette Extreme downloaded from casino or using there RNG ?
Quote from: valvo on Jan 07, 02:34 AM 2018
Hi Ignat,
Can you explain what you mean by only bet "only bet 1 Split within each columnstreet..?
If I get a 6 then a 9 I would only bet the 6 and 3, Is this the correct meaning?
Hi valvo :)
Yes, that's right. if 6 hits, you bet split 3/6. Then if nine (split 9/12) hit (no bet) because columnstreet 3-12 is already bet!
All testings have been done with real live-spins, yes.
cheers
Hi Ignatus,
promising system but i don't understand your progression, after betting 5 base unit it becomes negative
base bet total delta
1 17
1 15
1 12
1 8
2 16
2 6
3 9
4 7
5 0
6 -12
7 -29
Jérôme
Quote from: jerome26b on Jan 07, 05:03 AM 2018Hi Ignatus,
promising system but i don't understand your progression, after betting 5 base unit it becomes negative
I've tried another progression now, meant to be played with 1u bets (or minimal stakes) on RNG, and with a 750-1000u BR it may work? idk :question: only did one test so far, Highest step in the fibonacci-ladder was 21u.....
10 numbers fibonacci1 1 1|2 2 2|3 3 3|5 5 5|8 8 8|13 13 13|21 21 21|34 34 34|55 55 55|89 89 89
Go back one step in the ladder OR Re-start at same the level ((when hit)) for the next bet/trigger,
Until reached a new high- Then reset
This must be further explained, When start a new bet (at any step) let's say first step; then you bet 1+1+1+1+1 splits THEN when 5 splits are bet you begin anew on the next level; 2 2 2, (if that's lost) you go 3 3 3 etc, until hit....Let's say you get a hit on the third level (3u) THEN you could choose to go back one level (2u) OR stay at the same level (3) Let's say you go back one level OK then you start again 2 2 2 2 2 splits bet THEN when 5 splits are bet, you go to the next higher level 3 3 3, then 5 5 5...and so on....
OR ELSE, you could -FLATBET- >:D O0
(First test played with 25u bets, with random spins in RX)
First Live-session Flatbet. (played with 5u bets)
This is how you play flatbet ; -bet every columstreet-trigger 1+1+1+1+1 Splits bet. WHEN 5 splits bet/lost, (or when win) Restart bet/procedure with the single current split hit.
What about
Bet - Number each bet - net profit
1-5: $1 = 17, 15, 12, 8, 3
6: $2 = 11
7: $3 = 14
8: $4 = 12
9:$5 = 5
10: $7 = 6
11: $10 = 10
12: $14 =12
13: $19 =7
$1 units = bankroll of $335. I wonder what the odds are on 5 splits 13 times. Have to be pretty good?
Quote from: willtherock on Jan 08, 11:26 PM 2018
What about
Bet - Number each bet - net profit
1-5: $1 = 17, 15, 12, 8, 3
6: $2 = 11
7: $3 = 14
8: $4 = 12
9:$5 = 5
10: $7 = 6
11: $10 = 10
12: $14 =12
13: $19 =7
$1 units = bankroll of $335. I wonder what the odds are on 5 splits 13 times. Have to be pretty good?
Yes, that's a great idea! Thanks :)
Problem for me, Is that i can only play with 1u bets= 1 SEK (minimum stakes) on RNG, Every Live-table has a minimum stake of 5u, but for a 1 dollar=8 SEK (Swedish krona)
That would mean, for me, minmum BR, with this system 335*8= 2680 SEK (And for me, that's ALOT of money)
or else if you calculate with my swedish Live-casino minimum stake 5 SEK that would be 5*335= 1675 SEK (that is also still Alot of money for me)... :S
But if you are rich and can afford it ok, not for poor players like me... :question:
so, the only option then left, for me is to play this with minimum stakes on RNG. 335 SEK THAT i could afford! :)
and if anyone knows of a Honest, decent RNG-casino, you could tell me, ? thx
You could also use an ordinary 10 numbers negative progression, that would be more cost effective;
2+3+4+5+7+10+14+19 = 64 (yours)
2+2+3+4+6+8+11+16 = 52 (ordinary 10 numbers negative)
I wanted to test this now using an ordinary 10 numbers negative (with random spins in RX) 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 6 8 11 16 , and play until a bust, and as you can see in the chart, i played until first loss , that was a 270u drop =(BR Needed)...
You can also see in my test, that this won't last in the long run, (as with all roulette-systems?)...but for short sessions maybe OK? i played with the old 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 STOP...
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 09, 02:06 AM 2018
You can also see in my test, that this won't last in the long run, (as with all roulette-systems?)...but for short sessions maybe OK?
The short sessions you do will still belong in the long run session so it wont matter.
I like that you play until you bust like in the last two sessions instead of having a win goal.