Hello,
I was just wondering if anybody had a spin file containing 3000 or so continuous spins that I could put into RXtreme?
Please forward to me if you have..thank you :thumbsup:
Here is 3163 spins from wiesbaden.
:thumbsup:
Fripper
Thank you very much..thats very kind of you :thumbsup: :)
No biggie sir.
I just took some random days from wiesbaden march. :)
U have 700 000 spins in Actuals section on forum.
3000 means nothing. Some systems can hold for over 100 000 spins and then fall. :thumbsup:
Quote from: ophis on Dec 09, 10:41 AM 2010
3000 means nothing.
...But its a good place to start :thumbsup:
Quote from: ophis on Dec 09, 10:41 AM 2010
U have 700 000 spins in Actuals section on forum.
3000 means nothing. Some systems can hold for over 100 000 spins and then fall. :thumbsup:
Very true !
But depending on how often/long you play 100,000 spins could be a Year of Profit !
Just know when to get out :thumbsup:
"Some systems can hold for over 100 000 spins and then fall."
Does it matter? That number of spins could exceeed an occasional player's lifespan...
Quote from: esoito on Dec 09, 05:35 PM 2010
"Some systems can hold for over 100 000 spins and then fall."
Does it matter? That number of spins could exceeed an occasional player's lifespan...
it does matter because you can start playing when the downfall will start...
and you will lose.
more spins it will hold. less probability you will hit the downfall.
Quote from: Blood Angel on Dec 09, 09:46 AM 2010
Hello,
I was just wondering if anybody had a spin file containing 3000 or so continuous spins that I could put into RXtreme?
Please forward to me if you have..thank you :thumbsup:
Go to random org - its 100% pure random and if you beat does you beat roulette hahaha just joking - its based upon noise and just make the settings 0 to 36 and 10 000 and copy and past into word pad or text file - you can dowload 10x10000 a day.
Quote from: ophis on Dec 10, 06:27 AM 2010
it does matter because you can start playing when the downfall will start...
and you will lose.
more spins it will hold. less probability you will hit the downfall.
Yes you are right.
Now we are down to pure luck again, some will have it some will not.
guy's 700.000 spins come on you will not conquer the wheel, the only thing thats in the long run is all of our death's that is a sure thing, keep the fight 's short and we will alway's win. w.
Quote from: warrior on Dec 10, 08:41 AM 2010
Guy's 700.000 spins come on you will not conquer the wheel, the only thing that's in the long run is all of our death's that is a sure thing, keep the fight 's short and we will alway's win. w.
You saying there is no system that can be in profit after 700 000 spins?
Quote from: ophis on Dec 10, 09:17 AM 2010
You saying there is no system that can be in profit after 700 000 spins?
the wheel can not be conquerd ,but you can try.
All of which begs the question: How much testing is really enough?
Till exhaustion of all the possibilities??
Is that not the maxim of anything requiring testing?
Then again, one could say U test till Ur happy with the results, so in theory, if U started winning fairly early on in the testing period, U could end the tests because the results satisfied that
logic in one's procedure!!
36 000 000 ?
but where to get so many spins....
but all seems pointless when on one set of 200 000 spins system is in profit and on other set it is not....
its all random.
how to determine if system is good. anyone have definition for that?
another thing... if i will get graph of those 700 000 spins flat betting with end profit does it mean it is a grail?
Quotehow to determine if system is good. anyone have definition for that?
Yes.
Later when I have time I will post about it - for beginners the Van Kellen Test is a good bench mark.
One simpel fact is that no serios testing is made using progressions - but i assume you alredy did know that.
Quote from: ego on Dec 11, 03:33 AM 2010
Yes.
Later when I have time I will post about it - for beginners the Van Kellen Test is a good bench mark.
One simple fact is that no serios testing is made using progressions - but I assume you alredy did know that.
That would be great :thumbsup:
Quote from: ophis on Dec 10, 09:17 AM 2010
You saying there is no system that can be in profit after 700 000 spins?
maybe that's right. the longer and more frequently u play --more chances to lose.
Quote from: ego on Dec 11, 03:33 AM 2010
for beginners the Van Kellen Test is a good bench mark.
I would be interested to learn about this test, I've never heard of it.
I post it tomorrow - it is a simpel bench mark and no public system or system for money has what i know pass the VKT.
And yes you can win and pass 700 000 i did - not so difficult as you would in average get 15 isolated singel events in 500 000 - is just a matter how you deal with money managment.
All in with fibo progression 12 steps or aim for periodic events and divide fibo into different stage of attacks - but at 800 000 it tank with all in method - maybe it would last longer with stages and periodic attacks.
Basics is we dont talk about spins - it is usless if you want something valid you should talk about "placed bets" and not spins and you should not test using a progression when you develop a strategy as you should use flat-betting to get a valid picture of how your method peform.
Quote from: ego on Dec 14, 01:01 PM 2010
Basics is we don't talk about spins - it is usless if you want something valid you should talk about "placed bets" and not spins.
Obviously we are not talking about 1 bet per 10 000 spins.
Quote from: ego on Dec 14, 01:01 PM 2010
you should not test using a progression when you develop a strategy as you should use flat-betting to get a valid picture of how your method peform.
Very true :thumbsup: