I do not know about the technical aspects of this but I have found that 9 out of 10 times, if I take a few numbers to chase upon,and bet heavy upon them, they just do not appear even in 74 spins (double the break even point). Is there something fishy? Aren't RNG casinos manipulating with results in an insane manner in the name of randomness? I have tried this so many times and it loses in 90% cases.
Lets take an example. Say we pick 1-2-3-4 as our betselection and play them flat bet till break even point or leave numbers if they come earlier. Say, 1 came in 17th attempt, it gave us a profit of 19 units. Say 2-3-4 did not appear till 36th spin. We doubled the stake to 2 units each on them now and so on. That means we can win on all 4 numbers separately and gradually but in real games on RNG, u will find that your picked number will turn sleeper in most of the cases, whether you chose 1 or more. I do not think, it is purely random. Isn't it controlled random which extracts profit for casinos irrespective of ur bets or technique?
Just now I took number 20 to bet upon and it did not show even in 130 spins while I kept increasing my bets from 1 cent to upto 14 cents. See screenshots:
Is it randomness or cheating in the name of randomness? How come the best bet turned sleeper which could have won big for me? If I try this thing every session, I see my randomly chosen number turn sleep most of the time causing big losses to me. Does randomness have eyes to see which bet is good to show and not to show? Have eyes been given to it?
ha!, it reminded me of this guy
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i'm of the opinion that RNG gives you a result that puts you on the losing end.
vundarosa
Hey Vundarosa,
Thanks for linking excellant thread here. In my last casino trip, I saw a person was playing video roulette(RNG) in the casino in a video slot kind of machine. He had thousands of chips with him and he scattered them in almost everywhere on the table except numbers 34, 6 and 8. Since he was using about 200-300 chips per spin, I was a bit curious to see his game. his bankroll was coming up and down without any significant gain or loss. Suddenly he lost everything in 4 steps and four consecutive numbers were 34-34-6-8. Can you believe this? I am an eyewitness to this.
Hi albalaha
Any thing is possible in roulette and in RNG even the impossible is possible.
Sorry about your lost.
Regards
Max
This is the reason, I do all the tests with real money only. Loss is not big and I am least bothered about that.
Never bet on sleepers...never bet and wait for an event to occur...
In theory, yes. However, there may be a bias in numbers even on RNG
There was a report "1,2,4,14,17,20,21,31,33,34" tend to follow one another.
Not sure if it's true, but it's something to think about.
Record spins and we can check them for some anomalies.
sleeper numbers/sectors/ECs/ dozens/columns etc. are biggest weapons whereby casino wins. If these weapons can be automated to create a situation of loss, it will be fatal for the player and I am scared of only this potential of RNG.
Quote from: albalaha on Jul 11, 03:30 AM 2011
Just now I took number 20 to bet upon and it did not show even in 130 spins while I kept increasing my bets from 1 cent to upto 14 cents. See screenshots:
You did bet 1043 units and your loss is 291 units, so you had to have won somewhere.
If you pick any number or any group of numbers, why should they appear?
it appears at 2,7% so if you won in 10% of all attacks your quite in front.
It was a test upon this particular number 20. If I casually put some bet for say 5 spins and win then why cant I win upon my best bet that is 20. The question is that of suppression of the best bet and not casual hits. I never said I dont win on BV or any RNG. My main concern is that if I emphasize upon a particular number or group of numbers and increase my bets rapidly to earn max, will that be frustrated sooner or later?
I have actually worn a few pc mouses out playing rng on fun chips and on real play. There is no question about it the rng roulette i find is quite a lot harder to win big on. The rng even if not a cheating rng is much harder to win consistently with , play a rng that cheats and i loose so fast it's obvious the rng is fixed. I will tell you guys i am 100 % convinced rng has some thing about it that is devious. The rng has a big edge over real wheel , i don't care what winkel says that rng is not fixed or is no different to the real wheel , the fact is rng is much harder to beat.
So can anyone explain then that I made 1000 Euros out of a starting br of 50 Euros playing an RNG-Roulette by betting a progression starting with 1ct.?
I bet always the same chance (e.g. same street), so the RNG had a simple chance to kill me. but it didn´t.
If it was true you are complaining about, how could I win then?
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winkel
Brother Winkel,
I have myself multiplied money almost always when I played bv and I have duly documented my wins with proofs. I am not simply blaming an RNG for losses. I am saying that is it possible that they avoid the best bets or produce the worst. It is a piece of software afterall and can be easily programmed this way. Victor himself has come up with documented proof of cheating RNG. Earlier also I put an open question. Which RNG casino is the safest? Can you tell us your opinion?
Which OC?
any - if it has these opportunities:
- a decent spread: a spread of 40 is redicolous, a spread like a BM is fair, a higher spread you´d play there
- even if it is a software it can´t (shouldn´t) produce extreme situations (ecarts) every time you play. But to judge this you have to know your bet-chance very well. a clean record is needed anyway.
e.g.: betting a single number you have to know, that it can sleep 600 times and after that 600 times again, but then it has to produce itself as a favorite. Your game (bankroll and progression) has to overcome this. If it can´t you´re bound to luck.
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winkel
Thanks for the info Winkel,
what is your opinion regarding BV?
If I compare BV-spins with Wiesbaden Duisburg or other BM, I can see no differences.
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winkel
Quote from: winkel on Jul 12, 04:13 AM 2011
betting a single number you have to know, that it can sleep 600 times and after that 600 times again, but then it has to produce itself as a favorite. Your game (bankroll and progression) has to overcome this. If it can´t you´re bound to luck.
BINGO ......