Some advantages of playing Baccarat:
It's an honest game.
The house edge is minimal (practically 50/50).
Lower variance (Roulette has an infinite variance).
No dealer cheating (some dealers use electronic devices at roulette)
No zero (the main reason that's hard you win at roulette long term)
It's easy to win if you use the right strategy on the right conditions with a stop loss and stop win.
The key to failure:
1. Betting too often
2. Bad money management
3. Not following cards trends
4. HAVING NO PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE
PATTERN ATTACK ®
You can use the strategy to play Baccarat or Roulette but it works better playing Baccarat (less variance and Tie).
Here are the rules:
1. Start tracking a shoe.
2. If we see one of the following patterns we start betting AGAINST the pattern continuing
PBB PBB PBB Bet BPP
BPP BPP BPP Bet PBB
3. Progression is a personal choice:
1-2-3
1-2-4
1-2-2
1-1-3
0-1-2
Set up a stop win/loss
4. Do not IGNORE tie results as this affects sequence of results. Treat it as another unmatched pattern.
PS: You can cover the Tie to avoid previous losses.
5. Stop tracking at the end of the shoe and reset.
NEVER bet when is the end of the shoe. Look for another table.
6. Try tracking at least 3 tables at the same time. I track 6 tables.
Ex:
B P B P B P
B P P P
B
B
B
We have above BPP BPP BP
P B P B P B
P B B B
P
P
P
We have above PBB PBB PB
Both qualify as a trigger
P B P B P B P
P P P
We have above BPP BPP BPP
B P B P B P B
B B B
We have above PBB PBB PBB
Both qualify as a trigger
The strategy is POWERFUL If you play by the rules.
It needs a lot of paciente and discipline.
And you can adapt your way of play and use different progressions.
We are betting against a rare pattern to form for 4 times. It's a rare event.
BANKER ATTACK®
We always bet Banker.
We use 1-3-2-6 sequentially whether we win or lose (132613261326...). Examples:
PBPB = +6
PBPBBB = +10
BBB = +6
PPPBPPBB = +4
That means, we don't care if we win or lose that hand, we will still continue the 1-3-2-6 sequence. As for ties, it will be counted, and next bet will be the next sequence after a tie
PBTBB = +9
It beats almost every bad streak, and we start with a bankroll of 36. Our daily goal is +20.
SOS ATTACK®
It's is a mix of PATTERN ATTACK® and SOS strategy.
Bet BPP at the start of each shoe. (First hand).
Reset the game on the first win and go to another shoe and start it again.
If appears BPP or PPP or PBP or BPB or BBB or BBP or PPB you win.
If PBB appears you lose.
Bankroll: 35 units
Progression is a personal choice. This one works great. You can play flatbet too.
Progression : 1, 2, 4 lose?
Recovery One: 2, 2, 4 - lose?
Recovery Two: 5, 5, 10 - lose? End of the game.
Your goal is winning on the first progression.
If you lose you will have 3 more attempts to recover the bankroll on the second progression.
If you lose the second progression you will have 3 more attempts to recover the bankroll on the third progression.
If you go to the recovery mode you need to win 3 times at the first hand. The second and third hand you break even and start the recovery mode again.
I've tested it and getting great results.
SOS Strategy® by AndyCasinoK
Bet when the shoe is starting. (First hand).
The shoe start B we bet B for 3 times.
The shoe start P we bet P for 3 times.
Progression:
1-2-3
1-2-2
1-1-1
1-2-4
1-2-1
1-2-0
The goal is win at first or second step and bet the third for recovery.
I realized most of the wins come from the first and second step.
A great strategy!
Coming soon Ghost Attack®
If you have a good Baccarat strategy, do not hesitate to post here.
But be clear and do not pollute the thread.
Thanks!
Hi Andre.
Is this copyright material you are posting?
Thanks.
No, it's free to share.
My opinion.
I would skip the idea of using patterns and look at the events by them self.
My opinion is that you need to see the bias to explore the bias.
Every shoe has a tiny, medium and large bias.
Problem is not to spot and see two events hit and strike twenty times in a row.
Is how you take advantage out of such situation.
I wrote about this in another forum with 5K views.
Assume because my discovery is close to same as NOR.
Cheers
Quote from: ego on Jun 24, 01:04 PM 2018
My opinion is that you need to see the bias to explore the bias.
Every shoe has a tiny, medium and large bias.
Cheers
Hi ego
I know what you mean. Each shoe has a different bias. You have to learn to read the shoes and bet on the most favorable using the proper strategy.
A Bacc Strategy
An interesting baccarat strategy.
You write on paper:
1-PLAYER
2-PLAYER
3-BANKER
4-BANKER
5-BANKER
6-PLAYER
7-BANKER
8-PLAYER
9-PLAYER
10-BANKER
You start betting using D'alembert progression.
Take a look at the video:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=iPoKT7zUP-Y
I know it is NOT prudent to bet on sleeping things.
The following may be one rare exception where going after something that is sleeping (namely, ties) might work.
As most of you know, ties don't happen every 8-10 hands as per the theoretical expected frequency rates for that outcome.
So on a few rare occasions, I have actually gone after the tie outcome if I have NOT seen it for 20 spins (minimum -- nothing less than that).
And then I have chased it for the next 16 spins (after the first 8 spins, with a mild progression).
Incredibly, I have won on every occasion.
Please Note: I do NOT recommend the above strategy to be used regularly at the baccarat table. Use it only occasionally.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 24, 05:44 PM 2018
I know it is NOT prudent to bet on sleeping things.
The following may be one rare exception where going after something that is sleeping (namely, ties) might work.
As most of you know ties don't happen every 8-10 hands as per the theoretical expected frequency rates for that outcome.
So on a few rare occasions, I have actually gone after the tie outcome if I have NOT seen it for 20 spins (minimum -- nothing less than that).
And then I have chased it for the next 16 spins (after the first 8 spins, with a mild progression).
Incredibly, I have won on every occasion.
Please Note: I do NOT recommend the above strategy to be used regularly at the baccarat table. Use it only occasionally.
The progression I used for the above is as follows (
in units -- you guys can calculate the actual dollar amounts for yourselves):
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3
4
Works best if you are playing at a $5 or $10 table (I would not use the above system for higher minimum tables).
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 24, 05:44 PM 2018
I know it is NOT prudent to bet on sleeping things.
The following may be one rare exception where going after something that is sleeping (namely, ties) might work.
I NEVER bet on Tie but this strategy seems to be interesting. I will give it a try.
Thanks for the contribution.
Hello All
That's a very nice thread and thanks Andre for posting SOS , i feel a little bit proud ahah ;)
My advice to know the "nature of a shoe" :
Wait 30 hands to analyze what are happening and then you can identify if the shoe are with streak or chop.
Three Runners ®
At the Start of the shoe record the first three Hands , ex : BBB
And then bet that the beginning of the third column will not be BBB again , so bet PPP
most of the wins comes from the first and second hand , so you can flat bet two times in a row or you can martingale it
Example :
1-1
1-2
1-2-3
1-1-3
1-2-4
etc ...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 24, 07:56 PM 2018
I NEVER bet on Tie but this strategy seems to be interesting. I will give it a try.
Thanks for the contribution.
Andre,
If you are going to try it, as always do some testing first.
Just use it as a secondary playing method. And also use it only occasionally.
For this method to fail, the tie outcome has to sleep for at least 36 spins (the 20 hands that act as the initial trigger plus the 16 hands that I chase it with the progression).
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 25, 04:14 AM 2018
Andre,
If you are going to try it, as always do some testing first.
Just use it as a secondary playing method. And also use it only occasionally.
For this method to fail, the tie outcome has to sleep for at least 36 spins (the 20 hands that act as the initial trigger plus the 16 hands that I chase it with the progression).
So far, the deepest that I have had to go into the progression (that I mentioned on the previous page) is 12.
So the tie had slept for 32 hands.
One of the baccarat-playing veterans over on betselection (NOT alrelax !) had mentioned once that he had seen a tie-less shoe only once or twice in over 30 years of playing the game (he has been playing the game in Atlantic City casinos since the mid-1980s). On another forum, somebody else had mentioned that he had once seen the first tie to appear in a shoe on the 52nd hand.
This is gambling, so extreme events can happen, albeit rarely.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 24, 11:27 PM 2018
Three Runners ®
At the Start of the shoe record the first three Hands , ex : BBB
And then bet that the beginning of the third column will not be BBB again , so bet PPP
most of the wins comes from the first and second hand , so you can flat bet two times in a row or you can martingale it
Example :
1-1
1-2
1-2-3
1-1-3
1-2-4
etc ...
Hi,
Can you explain how you are charting your columns? You mention 3 hands, but then your image shows that each column has 6 hands. That part is unclear. Nice suggestion, though, thanks.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 23, 10:59 PM 2018
PATTERN ATTACK ®
You can use the strategy to play Baccarat or Roulette but it works better playing Baccarat (less variance and Tie).
Here are the rules:
1. Start tracking a shoe.
2. If we see one of the following patterns we start betting AGAINST the pattern continuing
PBB PBB PBB Bet BPP
BPP BPP BPP Bet PBB
3. Progression is a personal choice:
1-2-3
1-2-4
1-2-2
1-1-3
0-1-2
Set up a stop win/loss
4. Do not IGNORE tie results as this affects sequence of results. Treat it as another unmatched pattern.
PS: You can cover the Tie to avoid previous losses.
5. Stop tracking at the end of the shoe and reset.
NEVER bet when is the end of the shoe. Look for another table.
6. Try tracking at least 3 tables at the same time. I track 6 tables.
Ex:
B P B P B P
B P P P
B
B
B
We have above BPP BPP BP
P B P B P B
P B B B
P
P
P
We have above PBB PBB PB
Both qualify as a trigger
P B P B P B P
P P P
We have above BPP BPP BPP
B P B P B P B
B B B
We have above PBB PBB PBB
Both qualify as a trigger
The strategy is POWERFUL If you play by the rules.
It needs a lot of paciente and discipline.
And you can adapt your way of play and use different progressions.
We are betting against a rare pattern to form for 4 times. It's a rare event.
Hi,
So you are targeting BPP and PBB only? I understand why you are not considering BBB or PPP.
But why not BPB and PBP? They can be used for this strategy also, isn't? Or maybe you did not mention them in your example. Thanks.
Quote from: Locomotivist on Jun 25, 06:17 AM 2018
Hi,
Can you explain how you are charting your columns? You mention 3 hands, but then your image shows that each column has 6 hands. That part is unclear. Nice suggestion, though, thanks.
Hello Locomotivis
Ignore the others 3 , just focus of the beginning of the columns , also play this strategy one time per shoe ;)
Cheers
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 24, 11:27 PM 2018
Three Runners ®
At the Start of the shoe record the first three Hands , ex : BBB
And then bet that the beginning of the third column will not be BBB again , so bet PPP
most of the wins comes from the first and second hand , so you can flat bet two times in a row or you can martingale it
Example :
1-1
1-2
1-2-3
1-1-3
1-2-4
etc ...
I like this
In your columns are you writing the decisions left to right?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 08:28 AM 2018
I like this
In your columns are you writing the decisions left to right?
Rich,
As he explains in reply no. 16 (see his attached image also), he is going top to bottom (in each column).
But, I understand what you are getting at -- and, yes, your idea can be a viable competing approach also, for sure.
I guess then my question would be how many results he puts in one column
Hello RG
On my online casino the columns have only six hands results , and i take the first 3 results of the shoe and i "make them fight"
with the 3 first results of the third columns ;)
i just look for one win per shoe that's all ;)
So you are betting against decisions 12, 13, 14 back stopping on one win per shoe
I’ll give it a try always looking at new baccarat ideas. Not really into roulette anymore.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 25, 04:14 AM 2018
Andre,
If you are going to try it, as always do some testing first.
Just use it as a secondary playing method. And also use it only occasionally.
For this method to fail, the tie outcome has to sleep for at least 36 spins (the 20 hands that act as the initial trigger plus the 16 hands that I chase it with the progression).
Thanks for the tip, Doc. I'm studying the strategy while I play Pattern Attack and others strategies.
Quote from: Locomotivist on Jun 25, 06:27 AM 2018
Hi,
So you are targeting BPP and PBB only? I understand why you are not considering BBB or PPP.
But why not BPB and PBP? They can be used for this strategy also, isn't? Or maybe you did not mention them in your example. Thanks.
Only BPP and PBB. Never bet against a PPP or BBB or PBP or BPB trend. It is very common to be caught in a long sequence.
If you play roulette you know what I mean.
If you're betting on that, bet the patterns will continue.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 24, 10:44 PM 2018
Hello All
That's a very nice thread and thanks Andre for posting SOS , i feel a little bit proud ahah ;)
Hi Andy
Let's make this thread a great place sharing new strategies, new ideas and knowledge.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 03:54 PM 2018
Not really into roulette anymore.
Me too :thumbsup:
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 25, 04:28 AM 2018
So far, the deepest that I have had to go into the progression (that I mentioned on the previous page) is 12.
So the tie had slept for 32 hands.
One of the baccarat-playing veterans over on betselection (NOT alrelax !) had mentioned once that he had seen a tie-less shoe only once or twice in over 30 years of playing the game (he has been playing the game in Atlantic City casinos since the mid-1980s). On another forum, somebody else had mentioned that he had once seen the first tie to appear in a shoe on the 52nd hand.
This is gambling, so extreme events can happen, albeit rarely.
Doc I never paid much attention to Tie and always tried to avoid betting it. It seems to be an interesting strategy to use as a recovery when you lost playing another strategy. That is, occasionally.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 24, 05:46 PM 2018
The progression I used for the above is as follows (in units -- you guys can calculate the actual dollar amounts for yourselves):
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3
4
Works best if you are playing at a $5 or $10 table (I would not use the above system for higher minimum tables).
Hi doctor
Thanks for your observation
My experience with ties is they can either sleep for a long time or they can come in waves. Sometimes back to back or even 3 or 4 in a row. It becomes one of those rare, extreme and spectacular events. Imagine catching one of these shoes when looking for the tie bet. In my observations of gambler habits I notice some religiously covet it along with their player/banker bets. But the ratio of bets is usually 4:1 PB:tie so any tie win can pay off big time knowing you get your other bet back also. On a he higher min bet tables tie is $25 with other bets being $100 min
I will observe the shoes more and see how this bet could be employed
Cheers
Ricky
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 25, 04:14 AM 2018
Andre,
If you are going to try it, as always do some testing first.
Just use it as a secondary playing method. And also use it only occasionally.
For this method to fail, the tie outcome has to sleep for at least 36 spins (the 20 hands that act as the initial trigger plus the 16 hands that I chase it with the progression).
Well, the strategy worked on my first attempt. 8)
Luck?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 03:54 PM 2018
So you are betting against decisions 12, 13, 14 back stopping on one win per shoe
I’ll give it a try always looking at new baccarat ideas.
Not really into roulette anymore.
Rich,
I am headed in the same direction.
Baccarat and craps (betting on ONLY pass and don't pass without taking or laying any odds) are now my two preferred recreational gambling games.
By the way, since you have lost interest in roulette, shouldn't you have to change your username again? A couple of years you asked Steve to change your username from your firstname-lastname to rouletteghost.
Well, maybe you should ask Steve to change your username again ...... this time to
baccaratghost. :twisted: :twisted:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 25, 07:14 PM 2018
Well, the strategy worked on my first attempt. 8)
Luck?
Andre,
That's great. But the tie appeared in the 20th hand (unless I did a mistake in counting).
I normally wait for
a minimum of 20 hands without the tie showing, before chasing it.
Also, it does NOT have to be at the beginning of the shoe.A tie can miss for 20 spins even in the middle of the shoe -- say, between the 10th and 30th hands. And I go chasing it then.
VERY IMPORTANT:Also, make sure that you do NOT start the chase toward the very end of the shoe -- you need to have at least 16 hands remaining (preferably more remaining) to be played in the shoe for you to complete the progression (should you be forced to go the distance).
Imagine what would happen if the shoe ended and you were somewhere in the middle of the progression still chasing the sleeping tie outcome !
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 25, 07:27 PM 2018
I normally wait for a minimum of 20 hands without the tie showing, before chasing it.
No Tie
Doc I think this strategy very dangerous.
$3 chips
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 23, 11:01 PM 2018
BANKER ATTACK®
We always bet Banker.
We use 1-3-2-6 sequentially whether we win or lose (132613261326...). Examples:
PBPB = +6
PBPBBB = +10
BBB = +6
PPPBPPBB = +4
That means, we don't care if we win or lose that hand, we will still continue the 1-3-2-6 sequence. As for ties, it will be counted, and next bet will be the next sequence after a tie
PBTBB = +9
It beats almost every bad streak, and we start with a bankroll of 36. Our daily goal is +20.
Has anyone given it a try?
I consider it one of the best strategies. You have to find a Banker biased shoe.
You can use 1-3-2-4 but I prefer 1-3-2-6
Hi Doc , And Hi Andre
Maybe for the Tie method you can add another rule/trigger : wait that a Tie appeared and then wait 20 hands to bet (apply your method after the first Tie)
Because in my testing it's seem safer than a blind shoe without any Tie.
What do you all think ?
Cheers
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 25, 09:28 PM 2018
Hi Doc , And Hi Andre
Maybe for the Tie method you can add another rule/trigger : wait that a Tie appeared and then wait 20 hands to bet (apply your method after the first Tie)
Because in my testing it's seem safer than a blind shoe without any Tie.
What do you all think ?
Cheers
Hi Andy
You're right. I think we have to find a Tie biased shoe to play the strategy. But I still think that's too risky.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 25, 03:06 PM 2018
Hello RG
On my online casino the columns have only six hands results , and i take the first 3 results of the shoe and i "make them fight"
with the 3 first results of the third columns ;)
i just look for one win per shoe that's all ;)
It does well
But how do you treat a tie?
Do you not bet if first column has a tie, also I lost some only because of the tie
I found an interesting progression. It can be used on some strategies.
Ultimate Even Chance Progression: by GLC
If lose Bet Amount If win
-1 1 (x1) +1
-3 2 +1
-7 4 +1
-15 8 +1
-21 6 (x2) +3
-29 8 +3
-39 10 +1
-52 13 0
-70 18 +2
-81 11 (x3) +7
-93 12 +3
-107 14 +5
-123 16 +5
-141 18 +3
-162 21 +6
-186 24 +6
-213 27 +3
-228 15 (x4) +12
-244 16 +12
-261 17 +11
-279 18 +9
-298 19 +6
-318 20 +2
-340 22 +12
-363 23 +5
-388 25 +12
-414 26 +2
-442 28 +6
-472 30 +8
This progression is based on starting with a mini-martingale 1-2-4-8. Since we win most of our bets in the first 4 attempts, this will win us most of our units.
If we happen to lose 4 times in a row, we start betting let-it-ride 1 time. We drop back from an 8 unit loss to a 6 unit bet because we are -15 units after losing 1-2-4-8. If we win a 6 unit bet, we will have 12 units to let-it-ride. If we win this let-it-ride bet, we will have 24 units on the table minus the 6 we bet = +18 units less the 15 already lost = +3 units and we start over again with 1 unit bet.
We have 5 chances to win at a let-it-ride 2X before we go to a let-it-ride 3x series. And if we don't win in the 3 time let-it-ride series, we go to the 4X let-it-ride series.
All we are trying to do is get a streak of wins in a row to recover previous losses and reach a new high. Then we continue betting at the 1-2-4-8 level.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 09:43 PM 2018
It does well
But how do you treat a tie?
Do you not bet if first column has a tie, also I lost some only because of the tie
Went through all of my old shoes. Only loss I had when betting against was when a tie showed up
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 09:43 PM 2018
It does well
But how do you treat a tie?
Do you not bet if first column has a tie, also I lost some only because of the tie
Hello RG
Yes i do not bet if first column has a tie , but if the third column has a tie i don't care , i bet again what i wanted to bet ;) .
Very interesting , did you bet 3 times or only 2 times ?
3 step marty stop on a win
All of my previous shoes were winners hit and run
Only loss I had was when the third column had a tie
Tomorrow I will see what happened if I continued since the tie is a push
But so far looks good and it’s fast
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 24, 11:27 PM 2018
Three Runners ®
At the Start of the shoe record the first three Hands , ex : BBB
And then bet that the beginning of the third column will not be BBB again , so bet PPP
most of the wins comes from the first and second hand , so you can flat bet two times in a row or you can martingale it
Example :
1-1
1-2
1-2-3
1-1-3
1-2-4
etc ...
Andy, I will give it a try.
Why not bet at the beginning of the second column instead of the third? Do you play the strategy only when the shoe starts?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 26, 12:01 AM 2018
Andy, I will give it a try.
Why not bet at the beginning of the second column instead of the third? Do you play the strategy only when the shoe starts?
Just and habit , and in my analyze it's work better on the third column than the second column i don't know why.
Yea only when the shoe starts , just looking for one win daily , you can as well play it Flat bet 1unit-1unit and bet big , just target 1 win per day so 2 unit for 1 unit win , if you loose come tomorrow , if you win too come tomorrow
2u BR Daily goal =+1u
If you win second hands which is the recovery , change shoe till you win your +1u ;)
Cheers
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 25, 09:28 PM 2018
Hi Doc , And Hi Andre
Maybe for the Tie method you can add another rule/trigger : wait that a Tie appeared and then wait 20 hands to bet (apply your method after the first Tie)
Because in my testing it's seem safer than a blind shoe without any Tie.
What do you all think ?
Cheers
Yes, you can use the additional rule of waiting for the first tie.
As I have said before, I use this tie-chasing strategy only rarely (on average, about 1-2 times maximum per month using real money).
I have been playing it for about a year. So far, it has not failed me.
But, yes, the risk is always there and that is why I only play it at a $5 or $10 table.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 25, 08:18 PM 2018
Has anyone given it a try?
I consider it one of the best strategies. You have to find a Banker biased shoe.
You can use 1-3-2-4 but I prefer 1-3-2-6
Andre,
For the banker attack strategy to work, obviously, you need a banker-biased shoe.
I am curious what metric or parameter do you (personally) use to determine that a shoe is a banker-biased one?
Why would someone play banker side, I thought the player side had a lower % fee.
I know banker has a tiny strike ratio over the player side but is so tiny that it vanish with regular variance in short-term play.
Cheers
Bump
Quote from: ego on Jun 26, 03:49 AM 2018
Why would someone play banker side, I thought the player side had a lower % fee.
I know banker has a tiny strike ratio over the player side but is so tiny that it vanish with regular variance in short-term play.
Cheers
It is a well-debated point amongst players of this game.
While you think that Player may be a better betting option because no commission is levied on a Player win, there are many others who think that the Banker bet is a better wagering option because of its higher strike rate (this is in spite of the fact that a 5% commission is imposed on any Banker win).
Many don't realize that if you beat even money bets betting one side only - then you can convert same method for trading Bitcoins among other.
Is nothing I take easy, is the real thing to develop an understanding of bias events using Baccarat or any other even money chance.
I am not a fan of NOR as they use predetermine march to tackle when to enter and when to exit.
For me is more interesting to see why you can get two event strike for twenty-five attempts in a row.
Real bias comes from how you divide the outcomes or clustering them, I solve this puzzle.
Cheers
I think that Banker Attack will work better on a choppy shoe than with streaks , imagine how horrible can be 9xP in a row but the
BR and the daily goal seems very logic and possible.
Andre how you play Banker Attack ? Do you jump randomly on a shoe or do you need some events before ?
You can apply the Banker Attack when you see a choppy or banker biased shoe. You start betting after you realize that theres a lot of choppy or bank sequences. Ex:
BPBPBPBPBPBPB
B B B
B P B P B P B P B P B P
B B B B
B B B
B B
B B
etc...
You can choose stop on profit or continuing betting until you realize the bias is over.
You can play on a player biased shoe too but I prefer betting on banker.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 26, 12:04 PM 2018
Do you jump randomly on a shoe or do you need some events before ?
I start playing when I realized it's a banker or choppy biased shoe. That's my trigger.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jun 26, 03:17 AM 2018
Andre,
For the banker attack strategy to work, obviously, you need a banker-biased shoe.
I am curious what metric or parameter do you (personally) use to determine that a shoe is a banker-biased one?
A simple exemplo:
B P B P B P B P B P B P
B B B B
B B B
B B
B B
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 26, 12:28 AM 2018
Just and habit , and in my analyze it's work better on the third column than the second column i don't know why.
Yea only when the shoe starts , just looking for one win daily , you can as well play it Flat bet 1unit-1unit and bet big , just target 1 win per day so 2 unit for 1 unit win , if you loose come tomorrow , if you win too come tomorrow
2u BR Daily goal =+1u
If you win second hands which is the recovery , change shoe till you win your +1u ;)
Cheers
Hi Andy
I asked you because in the
Ghost Attack strategy all bets are based on the first column.
I've been studying the strategy for about two months. We can play the strategy flatbet without progression but it gets POWERFUL using a short one. We don't need a long waiting to bet. It's fast and efficient. I NEVER lose using the strategy. (Well, until now, since I've been playing it)
I will reveal the strategy to only a few people in this forum as long as they promise not to reveal it to anyone else.
I already said that in the other thread.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 26, 04:32 PM 2018
Hi Andy
I asked you because in the Ghost Attack strategy all bets are based on the first column.
I've been studying the strategy for about two months. We can play the strategy flatbet without progression but it gets POWERFUL using a short one. We don't need a long waiting to bet. It's fast and efficient. I NEVER lose using the strategy. (Well, until now, since I've been playing it)
I will reveal the strategy to only a few people in this forum as long as they promise not to reveal it to anyone else.
I already said that in the other thread.
Hi Andre
It's sound very interesting and i promise to never share it with others , send me a private message if you want ;)
I will explain the strategy (Ghost Attack) in detail using illustrations and several examples: How to play flatbetting or using a short progression. How to proceed when the Tie appears. When is the right time to bet. Examples of progressions. Games already played. How to bet on the same Baccarat table (no need to jump from table to table), etc... All in PDF file.
Before I do it I'm stressing the strategy doing a lot of tests. I need to know how long this strategy holds.
So far it seems to be long term.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 26, 09:40 PM 2018
I will explain the strategy (Ghost Attack) in detail using illustrations and several examples: How to play flatbetting or using a short progression. How to proceed when the Tie appears. When is the right time to bet. Examples of progressions. Games already played. How to bet on the same Baccarat table (no need to jump from table to table), etc... All in PDF file.
Before I do it I'm stressing the strategy doing a lot of tests. I need to know how long this strategy holds.
So far it seems to be long term.
Hi Andre what you are saying about the GA , give to me some ideas , that's inspire me i will pm you something tell me what do you think ;)
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 26, 10:37 PM 2018
Hi Andre what you are saying about the GA , give to me some ideas , that's inspire me i will pm you something tell me what do you think ;)
I need more time before I share it. I dont want to share the strategy without making sure it's a winner.
More tests is needed.
What do you mean - if its a winner - some gamblers accept loses being part of the game and get out positive at the end of the month.
Some gamblers use a progression and go all in and when progression busts the system bust.
So what kind of winner are you?
Cheers
I'm tired of contributing to this forum.
I spend a lot of time studying new strategies and sharing them... and all I get are negative reviews. Some people only criticize me but do not contribute at all.
I would like to read more about your thoughts, that is why I ask a question.
Hope I did not offend you in any way.
Cheers
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 27, 11:43 AM 2018
I'm tired of contributing to this forum.
I spend a lot of time studying new strategies and sharing them... and all I get are negative reviews. Some people only criticize me but do not contribute at all.
Your contributions are greatly appreciated. Please continue to contribute and share.
Cheers!!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 27, 11:43 AM 2018
I'm tired of contributing to this forum.
I spend a lot of time studying new strategies and sharing them... and all I get are negative reviews. Some people only criticize me but do not contribute at all.
You got plentiful peoples who are here observing your posts secretly , they are just to shy to show their positive vibes ;)
Thanks for the support!
Well, there is not much to do to beat baccarat or roulette. The only possible way is betting on rare events... that a rare event will not happen. (It can take a long wait, therefore it takes patience and discipline) and good money management. Otherwise this becomes an educated guessing game.
There is no magic formula. People in this forum spend a lot of time trying to find an invincible system (I've been through it) and it does not exist.
Cheers
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 28, 11:50 AM 2018
Thanks for the support!
Well, there is not much to do to beat baccarat or roulette. The only possible way is betting on rare events... that a rare event will not happen. (It can take a long wait, therefore it takes patience and discipline) and good money management. Otherwise this becomes an educated guessing game.
There is no magic formula. People in this forum spend a lot of time trying to find an invincible system (I've been through it) and it does not exist.
Cheers
Everytime i want to disagree with you, but can't!
as usual, wise words from you, Andre...respect!
i wish you all the best!
:)
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 28, 11:50 AM 2018
Thanks for the support!
Well, there is not much to do to beat baccarat or roulette. The only possible way is betting on rare events... that a rare event will not happen. (It can take a long wait, therefore it takes patience and discipline) and good money management. Otherwise this becomes an educated guessing game.
There is no magic formula. People in this forum spend a lot of time trying to find an invincible system (I've been through it) and it does not exist.
Cheers
Just because you yourself haven’t found it it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist....the other side of the coin you wouldn’t know if it existed because no would tell if they had it..catch 22
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 28, 02:51 PM 2018
Just because you yourself haven’t found it it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist....the other side of the coin you wouldn’t know if it existed because no would tell if they had it..catch 22
You didn't understand ... I said it's possible to win (that's what I'm doing... That's why I opened this thread) but there's no magic formula that everyone is looking for.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jun 28, 12:24 PM 2018
Everytime i want to disagree with you, but can't!
as usual, wise words from you, Andre...respect!
i wish you all the best!
:)
Hey my friend, thanks, I wish you the same!
An interesting article on baccarat
link:s://:.forbes.com/sites/davidschwartz/2018/06/21/why-casinos-love-and-fear-baccarat-the-worlds-biggest-gambling-game/#7b1416044188
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 28, 10:03 PM 2018
An interesting article on baccarat
link:s://:.forbes.com/sites/davidschwartz/2018/06/21/why-casinos-love-and-fear-baccarat-the-worlds-biggest-gambling-game/#7b1416044188
I have written on the forum that baccarat is the largest game in the casino. It makes or breaks the casino. But ignorant posters on this forum think it is roulette - thats outdated. The whales, high rollers most of them play baccarat. Roulette is fun money. So steve roulette computer, sit down.
A new shoe will never be the same as the previous shoe. That's the difference between shoe and wheel.
What can we do about it?
The baccarat game has many hidden secrets that we can take advantage of.
The shoe is finite. The wheel is infinite.
When the shoe starts that way or similar:
B P B P B P
P B
4 bankers and 4 players
Write it down on paper and wait for a new shoe to start.
Bet the opposite using D'lambert progression. +1/-1
Stop when in profit wait for a new shoe and do it again.
A new shoe will never be the same as the previous shoe.
Quote from: cht on Jun 28, 10:15 PM 2018
I have written on the forum that baccarat is the largest game in the casino. It makes or breaks the casino. But ignorant posters on this forum think it is roulette - thats outdated. The whales, high rollers most of them play baccarat. Roulette is fun money. So steve roulette computer, sit down.
Sorry i just saw this. So you can get a 150% edge in baccarat too, like my computers? One of my players wanted to bet $250k per spin. Is that high roller enough? We didnt do it though it would be too much heat.
I agree roulette is not the most popular game. But it gives a much higher edge than any game.
Quote from: Steve on Jun 29, 05:09 AM 2018
Sorry i just saw this. So you can get a 150% edge in baccarat too, like my computers? One of my players wanted to bet $250k per spin. Is that high roller enough? We didnt do it though it would be too much heat.
I agree roulette is not the most popular game. But it gives a much higher edge than any game.
1-You only get this advantage in the game through computers. But computers are banned from casinos or most of them.
2-Nowadays computers have become obsolete by playing on most wheels. The wheels manufactured today are very modern. This causes the ball to bounce too much on the wheel.
3-Casinos use electronic devices to accelerate and decelerate the wheel making it impossible to know in which sector of roulette the ball will land.
So is this your advantage?
If you were in the 80's or 90's I would agree with you.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 29, 10:53 AM 2018
1-You only get this advantage in the game through computers. But computers are banned from casinos or most of them.
2-Nowadays computers have become obsolete by playing on most wheels. The wheels manufactured today are very modern. This causes the ball to bounce too much on the wheel.
3-Casinos use electronic devices to accelerate and decelerate the wheel making it impossible to know in which sector of roulette the ball will land.
So is this your advantage?
If you were in the 80's or 90's I would agree with you.
Andre
I agree mostly with you especially when you say the wheels are getting tougher, the technology is improving and the casino are enjoying !
However, using computers or any similar techniques which based on physics can help you in getting an edge.
The edge is of course not the same as 20 years ago but it’s still profitable.
Regarding ball bounce, yes thats a major issue however if you increase the arc (sector of covered numbers) you can workaround this issue.
In conclusion, yes it’s still profitable however the ups and downs are getting clearly in sight
1. Computers are still legal in half of casinos. No casino tolerates them or anything else that works, so they must be used secretly. We never break laws. Boo hoo for the billionaire casino owners.
2. We beat almost every wheel with at least 20% edge. That includes the modern designs: cammegh traditional and huxley mk7 with bouncy ivorine balls. For example see the 125% edge in my public group demo.
3. You're talking about rrs. It halves possible edge, not eliminates it. It's on maybe 1% of wheels and it just makes a 50% edge 25%. The hardest wheel to beat thats viable is cammegh slingshot with rrs. We average 5% edge with predictions 22s before ball falls. If casinos make rrs too obvious they lose player trust and a lot more revenue from normal gamblers.
Good day, steve !
I have dedicated lots of time studying computers algorithms and ball trajectory !
I made lots of simulations with software that test behavior of ball trajectory in correspondence with rotor speed and dealer ‘s ball launch.
My conclusion is, actually you dont need a physical computer to win at roulette, you can instead use software that does an assessment of behaviour of the ball trajectory in a relative big sample of data.
At the end you will discover that the ball is following the same behaviour.
Due to lack of interest in the Baccarat game in this forum and the lack of feedback I will no longer post here.
The people here are focused on roulette. Of course, it's a roulette forum.
Good luck to all!
Sure there are ways, other than computers, to win. They all change the odds of winning.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 29, 07:41 PM 2018
Due to lack of interest in the Baccarat game in this forum and the lack of feedback I will no longer post here.
The people here are focused on roulette. Of course, it's a roulette forum.
Good luck to all!
If there is one tip I give you exploit the banker bet. That's where you look in detail.
The very best wishes to you.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 28, 11:49 PM 2018
When the shoe starts that way or similar:
B P B P B P
P B
4 bankers and 4 players
Write it down on paper and wait for a new shoe to start.
Bet the opposite using D'lambert progression. +1/-1
Stop when in profit wait for a new shoe and do it again.
A new shoe will never be the same as the previous shoe.
So this is the GA or no ? And i want to share another things that i found about baccarat go to you private message and tell me your though about it
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 29, 07:41 PM 2018
Due to lack of interest in the Baccarat game in this forum and the lack of feedback I will no longer post here.
The people here are focused on roulette. Of course, it's a roulette forum.
Good luck to all!
Perhaps a little cheese with that whine.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 29, 10:41 PM 2018
Perhaps a little cheese with that whine.
Ghost,
When do you finally want to become serious?
The Andre wants you to win and you ignoring him!
shame on you!
be kind and don't bite the hand that feeds you
:xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 29, 10:41 PM 2018
Perhaps a little cheese with that whine.
Im from France but I live in Brazil. English is not my first language. I didnt get the joke.
The problem of using a progression is that at some point it will fail whatever system is applied. If you want to evaporate your bankroll use a long progression. A safe progression is 3 steps. No more than that.
I once thought that I had an infallible system and won for several days in a row until I used a long absurd progression. I watched my $ 1300 bankroll evaporate. The feeling is terrible.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 30, 05:48 PM 2018
The problem of using a progression is that at some point it will fail whatever system is applied. If you want to evaporate your bankroll use a long progression. A safe progression is 3 steps. No more than that.
I once thought that I had an infallible system and won for several days in a row until I used a long absurd progression. I watched my $ 1300 bankroll evaporate. The feeling is terrible.
Most members here knew that you would crash. Not that we wish for it....we just knew it from day 1 ....
Quote from: denzie on Jun 30, 06:28 PM 2018
Most members here knew that you would crash. Not that we wish for it....we just knew it from day 1 ....
I think you did not understand what I said. I said that once I used a long progression. I no longer use that anymore.
Yes, I crashed some times but I learn the lesson. Im sure everyone here crashed some times.
I just said that to help people not fall into this trap.
What about my Bacc strategy? I'm doing well.
And please, I don't wanna argue with you.
If you want let's talk about football. Belgium has a great team.
Cheers
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 29, 09:17 PM 2018
So this is the GA or no ? And i want to share another things that i found about baccarat go to you private message and tell me your though about it
Hi Andy
It's not
More tests is needed.
But I don't know if I'll share here. The players here are focusing roulette.
I understand it because it's a roulette forum.
Cheers
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 30, 07:04 PM 2018
Hi Andy
It's not
More tests is needed.
But I don't know if I'll share here. The players here are focusing roulette.
I understand it because it's a roulette forum.
Cheers
Hi Andre
Yea i understand , but keep your great work i think that if you continue like this you will bring more people to baccarat or people will take an interest about it.
But i want the other members who are watching this thread to share there ideas , it could be Bad strategies too , no problem maybe we can improve it.
Cheers :)
Quote from: cht on Jun 29, 08:54 PM 2018
If there is one tip I give you exploit the banker bet. That's where you look in detail.
Yep, I'm trying to explore that.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jun 26, 06:31 PM 2018
Hi, I never played baccarat, but I'm curious about that fantastic game he talks about, if he wants to, he can share it with me, I'll be a tomb and I'll be grateful with something about roulette. regards :wink: :thumbsup:
Good to know a player who claims own the roulette HG is interested on baccarat game. By the way congratulations for that!
Cheers
Why is my post deleted? Because of speaking the truth? No freedom of speech on forums anymore?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 30, 05:48 PM 2018
The problem of using a progression is that at some point it will fail whatever system is applied. If you want to evaporate your bankroll use a long progression. A safe progression is 3 steps. No more than that.
I once thought that I had an infallible system and won for several days in a row until I used a long absurd progression. I watched my $ 1300 bankroll evaporate. The feeling is terrible.
The only progression you should use in any game is a pisitive one using casino winnings to fund a continuing streak. We all learn the hard way that negative progressions are the sure way to lose your bankroll
With pattern attach the most I will do is a 2 step negative progression after waiting for a long 4 peat to form. Once formed it is very rare to continue to 5peat. So I will bet $100 for step 1. If I lose then I will bet $100 or $200 on step 2 depending on my bankroll and on the biased or balanced shoe.
But the bet is not just a negative one to try and recoup losses. It is based on my feeling of the strength of my feeling ng that I will win the bet. If I’m wrong twice in a row then I accept the loss and skip the next bet. If the streak is continuing for another hand then I will treat this as a new opportunity and may bet another $100 for the streak to end. But I will not treat it as chasing my losses.
In baccarat the best opportunities to profit are from betting with the trend. My pattern chaser bet can produce phenomenal profits using the parlay approach to increase bets on a win. You stop wh n the streak ends. I’ve witnessed streaks of up to 16 banker and player bets in a row. I’ve also witnessed gamblers winning upwards of 10k using this method and all with the casinos money. As long as you know when to stop and take profit along the way you cannot lose with this approach. You risk say $100 to potentially make $1k plus it is worth the bet
Cheers
Ricky
Quote from: Ricky on Jul 02, 09:04 PM 2018
The only progression you should use in any game is a pisitive one using casino winnings to fund a continuing streak. We all learn the hard way that negative progressions are the sure way to lose your bankroll
With pattern attach the most I will do is a 2 step negative progression after waiting for a long 4 peat to form. Once formed it is very rare to continue to 5peat. So I will bet $100 for step 1. If I lose then I will bet $100 or $200 on step 2 depending on my bankroll and on the biased or balanced shoe.
But the bet is not just a negative one to try and recoup losses. It is based on my feeling of the strength of my feeling ng that I will win the bet. If I’m wrong twice in a row then I accept the loss and skip the next bet. If the streak is continuing for another hand then I will treat this as a new opportunity and may bet another $100 for the streak to end. But I will not treat it as chasing my losses.
In baccarat the best opportunities to profit are from betting with the trend. My pattern chaser bet can produce phenomenal profits using the parlay approach to increase bets on a win. You stop wh n the streak ends. I’ve witnessed streaks of up to 16 banker and player bets in a row. I’ve also witnessed gamblers winning upwards of 10k using this method and all with the casinos money. As long as you know when to stop and take profit along the way you cannot lose with this approach. You risk say $100 to potentially make $1k plus it is worth the bet
Cheers
Ricky
Hi Ricky,
Nice post. Have you read about the guy Varmenti who is using positive progression only in Baccarat with his wife. He seems to win overall in his method of play.
Hi Ricky
I guess that you wait a certain amounts of hands before starting your progression right ? if Yes , how much ?
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 03, 06:31 AM 2018
Hi Ricky
I guess that you wait a certain amounts of hands before starting your progression right ? if Yes , how much ?
Hai Andy
I recommend starting betting after 4 bankers or players and double the bet after a win.
B
B
B
B
start betting with the trend
I suggest double the bet (parlay) for 3 times max.
This way of playing is much used by Asians. I personally dont like it.
Hi Brazil
Will Brazil win the World Cup ?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 03, 12:07 PM 2018
Hai Andy
I recommend starting betting after 4 bankers or players and double the bet after a win.
B
B
B
B
start betting with the trend
I suggest double the bet (parlay) for 3 times max.
This way of playing is much used by Asians. I personally dont like it.
Oh Andre it's seem risky more than PA , i will not do that strategy with big amounts of money , i have maybe find something but i need more test ;)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 03, 02:23 PM 2018
Hi Brazil
Will Brazil win the World Cup ?
I'm from France but I cheer for Brazil... I live in Brazil
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 03, 02:31 PM 2018
Oh Andre it's seem risky more than PA , i will not do that strategy with big amounts of money , i have maybe find something but i need more test ;)
Yes Andy
You should be cautious about using this strategy because often the trends tend not to continue. You have to have luck to get a long sequence of B or P or choppy.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 03, 02:33 PM 2018
I'm from France but I cheer for Brazil... I live in Brazil
Get ready, grap some popcorn.
If brazil eliminates belgium on saturday, it will face france in semifinal
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 03, 02:38 PM 2018
Get ready, grap some popcorn.
If brazil eliminates belgium on saturday, it will face france in semifinal
It will be on Friday. Brazil passes through Belgium relatively easily. But let's talk about it in the appropriate thread.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 03, 02:42 PM 2018
It will be on Friday. Brazil passes through Belgium relatively easily. But let's talk about it in the appropriate thread.
I am not a fan of the 'la Seleçao' but i like very much brazilian women...
they are toooo sexy
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 28, 11:49 PM 2018
When the shoe starts that way or similar:
B P B P B P
P B
4 bankers and 4 players
Write it down on paper and wait for a new shoe to start.
Bet the opposite using D'lambert progression. +1/-1
Stop when in profit wait for a new shoe and do it again.
A new shoe will never be the same as the previous shoe.
Andre,
Why wait for a new shoe?
Why not bet AGAINST that exact pattern from forming again in the subsequent 8 spins of that same shoe (that is, spins 9-16)?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 03, 05:35 PM 2018
Andre,
Why wait for a new shoe?
Why not bet AGAINST that exact pattern from forming again in the subsequent 8 spins of that same shoe (that is, spins 9-16)?
Doc
From what I've realized, the same pattern can repeat itself after the eight hands, so it's risky to start betting after that.
Hardly the same pattern will appears at the start of the shoe, so we have record the first eight hands and start betting at the start of the next shoe at the same table. We can use a different pattern too. It was just an example.
PS: We have to bet on the same pattern and not against it. I messed up on the previous post.
Ops
We have to bet (record )the same pattern and bet AGAINST it.
Sorry
I'm almost done with the Ghost Attack tests and will soon release it to my friends here at this forum.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 03, 11:02 PM 2018
I'm almost done with the Ghost Attack tests and will soon release it to my friends here at this forum.
Nice i am impatient , i am working on something too but i need more test , it's hard to know for the moment because my B&m casino only have 6 ~ tables something like that , so patience ;)
Andy and to who is interested...
If you look at the screen board you realize that each "line" (Not column) has at least one BANKER. Do you know what I mean? What we can do about that information?
Today I kept 9 hours straight testing the strategy. (Of course I gave some breaks to watch some nude girls...lol) I stressed the strategy at its max
I think I had a perfect strategy but it can fail. I think it's almost invencible if you have a large bankroll, but...
Nobody here gives a crap about baccarat. (I understand because it's a roulette forum). But I'm tired. Nobody help me, nobody gives me suggestions, nobody test anything, nobody gives me feedback...
I feel lonely here... Maybe I should leave.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 05, 12:47 AM 2018
Andy and to who is interested...
If you look at the screen board you realize that each "line" (Not column) has at least one BANKER. Do you know what I mean? What we can do about that information?
Today I kept 9 hours straight testing the strategy. (Of course I gave some breaks to watch some nude girls...lol) I stressed the strategy at its max
I think I had a perfect strategy but it can fail. I think it's almost invencible if you have a large bankroll, but...
Nobody here gives a crap about baccarat. (I understand because it's a roulette forum). But I'm tired. Nobody help me, nobody gives me suggestions, nobody test anything, nobody gives me feedback...
I feel lonely here... Maybe I should leave.
I am always listening.....especially about baccarat.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 05, 12:47 AM 2018
Andy and to who is interested...
If you look at the screen board you realize that each "line" (Not column) has at least one BANKER. Do you know what I mean? What we can do about that information?
Today I kept 9 hours straight testing the strategy. (Of course I gave some breaks to watch some nude girls...lol) I stressed the strategy at its max
I think I had a perfect strategy but it can fail. I think it's almost invencible if you have a large bankroll, but...
Nobody here gives a crap about baccarat. (I understand because it's a roulette forum). But I'm tired. Nobody help me, nobody gives me suggestions, nobody test anything, nobody gives me feedback...
I feel lonely here... Maybe I should leave.
Yes, I always enjoy your posts about baccarat as I'm also an avid fan of it. Unfortunately, I'm still in the learning stage and cannot contribute to your thread positively. Thanks
AC,
I offered my help in testing before, with no answer, but cannot do it if you don't share the strategy to test.
I play baccarat daily and have hundreds real shoes to make the testing.
A
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 05, 12:47 AM 2018
Andy and to who is interested...
If you look at the screen board you realize that each "line" (Not column) has at least one BANKER. Do you know what I mean? What we can do about that information?
Today I kept 9 hours straight testing the strategy. (Of course I gave some breaks to watch some nude girls...lol) I stressed the strategy at its max
I think I had a perfect strategy but it can fail. I think it's almost invencible if you have a large bankroll, but...
Nobody here gives a crap about baccarat. (I understand because it's a roulette forum). But I'm tired. Nobody help me, nobody gives me suggestions, nobody test anything, nobody gives me feedback...
I feel lonely here... Maybe I should leave.
OH NICE OBSERVATION ! NICE ;)
We should wait for a trigger like 4~5 player in a row to start to bet against Player ?
What was the longest streak of Player that you had witness ?
Ricky should come back there , CHT and Ricky and Andrebac are very nice people , i want them here to hear their thoughts about this observation
I have seen 16 player
Hi 777
16 player ? Wow it's huge but we are talking about the line. Did you witness that on the line ? , see the picture
Hi Andy,
sorry no I was talking about a streak. I havent looked at that before. ill keep an eye on it. ;)
so how would you attack this last line? how many bets would you make pr line?
1-2-3
1-2-4
1-2-4-8-16
This is not the strategy. This is the beginning of the idea of ​​the strategy in which I'm working on.
Andy, if it was the strategy that you showed, you should look for a banker biased shoe.
andrebac, I'll contact you soon.
Please be patient!
PS: I rename the strategy. No I call it Double Attack
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 05, 12:44 PM 2018
Hi 777
16 player ? Wow it's huge but we are talking about the line. Did you witness that on the line ? , see the picture
I think the idea that Andre may have hinted at and that you two guys are talking about are more applicable to the following type of display (sometimes known as Main Road or Big Road).
See below. Notice the difference? The display below
is different from the displays you guys are using.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 05, 03:12 PM 2018
I think the idea that Andre may have hinted at and that you two guys are talking about are more applicable to the following type of display (sometimes known as Main Road or Big Road).
See below.
Notice the difference? The display below is different from the displays you guys are using.
Here is a
second example of a Main Road or Big Road display.
If your casino does not offer this display, then you will have difficulty applying the strategy that you guys are discussing.
Double Attack® has been proven to be the strongest strategy I've ever seen.
No need for long waits. It's a fast and efficient game play. My tests are proving it.
The baccarat game has many hidden secrets that we can explore. I spent months learning how to read the shoes. And finally it seems I found that.
I just ask for patience.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jun 24, 11:27 PM 2018
Three Runners ®
At the Start of the shoe record the first three Hands , ex : BBB
And then bet that the beginning of the third column will not be BBB again , so bet PPP
most of the wins comes from the first and second hand , so you can flat bet two times in a row or you can martingale it
Example :
1-1
1-2
1-2-3
1-1-3
1-2-4
etc ...
Me like.
But with longer columns.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 05, 07:38 PM 2018
Double Attack® has been proven to be the strongest strategy I've ever seen.
No need for long waits. It's a fast and efficient game play. My tests are proving it.
The baccarat game has many hidden secrets that we can explore. I spent months learning how to read the shoes. And finally it seems I found that.
I just ask for patience.
Take your time, properly test it. No hurry
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 05, 12:47 AM 2018
Andy and to who is interested...
If you look at the screen board you realize that each "line" (Not column) has at least one BANKER. Do you know what I mean? What we can do about that information?
Today I kept 9 hours straight testing the strategy. (Of course I gave some breaks to watch some nude girls...lol) I stressed the strategy at its max
I think I had a perfect strategy but it can fail. I think it's almost invencible if you have a large bankroll, but...
Nobody here gives a crap about baccarat. (I understand because it's a roulette forum). But I'm tired. Nobody help me, nobody gives me suggestions, nobody test anything, nobody gives me feedback...
I feel lonely here... Maybe I should leave.
I'm also following this thread, .. like a "ghost"
;)
I'm also testing a "pattern strategy", quite simple, yet effective.. but I want some more testing.
It's something simply to bet with 2 step progression..
Will probably post it this weekend ;)
Thanks for all your effort on baccarat!
Hi Andre
Are you using the main road like Doc said ? Or do you use the classical score board ?
Great findings. keep up the good work
Hi Ricky and Andre
I am wondering one thing , what will be the win rate of the SOS strategy if the trigger was a three step virtual lost of the SOS method first , and then waiting for the next shoe to start at this same table ?
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 07, 06:17 PM 2018
Hi Andre
Are you using the main road like Doc said ? Or do you use the classical score board ?
Hi ACK,
Even if your casino does not offer the Main Road or Big Road display, you can use your own paper scorecards to create a display for yourself.
You can even use
red and
blue pencils or pens to make it easier for you to see what is going on (just like the real thing !).
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 08, 10:00 PM 2018
Hi ACK,
Even if your casino does not offer the Main Road or Big Road display, you can use your own paper scorecards to create a display for yourself.
You can even use red and blue pencils or pens to make it easier for you to see what is going on (just like the real thing !).
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Frankly speaking, I think the Main Road or Big Road display is intuitively the most useful of all the display types that are available. At a glance, you can easily see all the chops and streaks (and how long they are) of the banker and player decisions that the shoe is producing.
Hi guys!
As everyone knows, the shoe or the wheel produces millions of combinations. That is why many strategies/systems fail.
I've tested a baccarat strategy using no trigger and no stop loss. I tested the strategy to its max. Unfortunately it failed undergoing long tests that took about three months.
So some adjustments are needed. I need to figure out what would be the best trigger or stop loss to be used. Or both ... I'm working on it.
See you soon!
PS: Doc is right. It's the Main Road display.
Let me know if you are looking for someone to test.
Thanks for your efforts
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 08, 10:04 PM 2018
Frankly speaking, I think the Main Road or Big Road display is intuitively the most useful of all the display types that are available. At a glance, you can easily see all the chops and streaks (and how long they are) of the banker and player decisions that the shoe is producing.
I do not have the habit to use it , but i am trying to understand the Big Road approch by Andre , i think he is using the Third ligne of the Big road
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 11, 09:53 AM 2018
I do not have the habit to use it , but i am trying to understand the Big Road approch by Andre , i think he is using the Third ligne of the Big road
Hi ACK,
You can even start betting with the second line, if you want (why not?).
But, if you so prefer, the third line is also a good starting point.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 11, 01:09 PM 2018
Hi ACK,
You can even start betting with the second line, if you want (why not?).
But, if you so prefer, the third line is also a good starting point.
And why stop with the third line?
You can continue with lines 4 and 5 (and maybe even beyond, depending on what is happening in that particular shoe).
Of course, if there is a long Player streak (say, longer than 6 or 7), then it might be better to stay away from going after the Banker bet for the higher numbered lines.Just use your common sense of judgment.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 11, 01:15 PM 2018
And why stop with the third line?
You can continue with lines 4 and 5 (and maybe even beyond, depending on what is happening in that particular shoe).
Of course, if there is a long Player streak (say, longer than 6 or 7), then it might be better to stay away from going after the Banker bet for the higher numbered lines.
Just use your common sense of judgment.
Hi Doc , because the two in a row ( a column here ) seems to be the trigger , but i don't know how to handle this right now , what i witness is that they are always Banker in the third ligne of the main road
I don't want to martingale that maybe the trigger can be to wait half of the game to not have a Banker on the third ligne , but i don't know.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 13, 04:07 PM 2018
Hi Doc , because the two in a row ( a column here ) seems to be the trigger , but i don't know how to handle this right now , what i witness is that they are always Banker in the third ligne of the main road
I don't want to martingale that maybe the trigger can be to wait half of the game to not have a Banker on the third ligne , but i don't know.
No, Banker will not always appear on the third line.
I had already tried playing this way using martingale progression and I busted. I got two shoes
without banker on the third line.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 13, 06:54 PM 2018
No, Banker will not always appear on the third line.
I had already tried playing this way using martingale progression and I busted. I got two shoes without banker on the third line.
Andre,
That is very interesting -- two complete shoes without the Banker reaching the third line?
These two shoes ...... were they regular 6 deck or 8 deck shoes or were they shorter?
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 13, 07:10 PM 2018
Andre,
That is very interesting -- two complete shoes without the Banker reaching the third line?
These two shoes ...... were they regular 6 deck or 8 deck shoes or were they shorter?
Eight-deck shoe
Doc, I've seen a lot of extreme rare events happening.
Once I thought I had the baccarat HG, but I realize everything can happen when we're playing baccarat.
PS: I'm still working on Double Attack
Double Attack® tests finished.
Nice Andre, great job. Hope your hard work paid off, you deserve it. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 17, 06:22 PM 2018
Double Attack® tests finished.
:thumbsup:
Were they positive?
Very nice keep us updated ;)
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 18, 06:02 AM 2018
:thumbsup:
Were they positive?
Os testes ocorreram muito bem!
Eu nunca havia visto uma estratégia tão eficiente.
Sem longas esperas. Pode ser jogado flatbetting mas é preferÃvel usar progressão para os lucros virem mais rápidos.
Em breve divulgarei a estratégia para apenas algumas pessoas pois muitas pessoas nesse fórum não merecem tê-la.
Abraço
Ã"timo trabalho, espero que te leve a Las Vegas! :) :) :)
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 18, 05:02 PM 2018
Os testes ocorreram muito bem!
Eu nunca havia visto uma estratégia tão eficiente.
Sem longas esperas. Pode ser jogado flatbetting mas é preferÃvel usar progressão para os lucros virem mais rápidos.
Em breve divulgarei a estratégia para apenas algumas pessoas pois muitas pessoas nesse fórum não merecem tê-la.
Abraço
Muito bom. Resultados apenas vêm com esforço e dedicação.
Parabéns!
Column Attack® While I've been testing another strategy that will be released soon, I've been playing an interesting strategy with a good win ratio.
When the shoe starts, bet that column 1 or 2 or 3 will reach the second line as the examples. Reset when on profit and do start it again.
Double Attack® coming soon!! I will explain the strategy in detail using illustrations and several examples: How to play flatbetting or using a short progression. How to proceed when the Tie appears. When is the right time to bet. Examples of progressions. Games already played, etc. All in PDF file.
Cheers
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 19, 08:20 PM 2018
Column Attack® While I've been testing another strategy that will be released soon, I've been playing an interesting strategy with a good win ratio.
When the shoe starts, bet that column 1 or 2 or 3 will reach the second line as the examples. Reset when on profit and do start it again.
Double Attack® coming soon!! I will explain the strategy in detail using illustrations and several examples: How to play flatbetting or using a short progression. How to proceed when the Tie appears. When is the right time to bet. Examples of progressions. Games already played, etc. All in PDF file.
Cheers
Excellent, thanks for sharing Andre, enjoy your good work. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 19, 08:20 PM 2018
Column Attack® While I've been testing another strategy that will be released soon, I've been playing an interesting strategy with a good win ratio.
When the shoe starts, bet that column 1 or 2 or 3 will reach the second line as the examples. Reset when on profit and do start it again.
Double Attack® coming soon!! I will explain the strategy in detail using illustrations and several examples: How to play flatbetting or using a short progression. How to proceed when the Tie appears. When is the right time to bet. Examples of progressions. Games already played, etc. All in PDF file.
Cheers
Nice Andre i am very impatient :)
After more than three months of intensive testing the Double Attack® strategy is ready! I think it's the best strategy I've ever played. It was created by me and It's not found anywhere on the internet.
I'm trying to figure out how to put it in PDF format. I'm not very good working with PDF files.
As soon as I get it I'll let everyone know.
I wish a great weekend to all!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 19, 11:48 PM 2018
After more than three months of intensive testing the Double Attack® strategy is ready! I think it's the best strategy I've ever played. It was created by me and It's not found anywhere on the internet.
I'm trying to figure out how to put it in PDF format. I'm not very good working with PDF files.
As soon as I get it I'll let everyone know.
I wish a great weekend to all!
Hi Andre,
It's really nice to hear about your new methods.
Can't wait to read and test them.
Thanks and have a nice weekend too!
Hi Andre,
I wonder if I can try it out!?
I have a few bucks on casino ready to make them fat with double attack!
;)
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 21, 01:30 PM 2018
Hi Andre,
I wonder if I can try it out!?
I have a few bucks on casino ready to make them fat with double attack!
;)
Same for me, would be happy to test it as anything Andre does is well thought out and based on fundamentally strong play.
Can't wait to see Double Attack in action.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 19, 11:48 PM 2018
After more than three months of intensive testing the Double Attack® strategy is ready! I think it's the best strategy I've ever played. It was created by me and It's not found anywhere on the internet.
I'm trying to figure out how to put it in PDF format. I'm not very good working with PDF files.
As soon as I get it I'll let everyone know.
I wish a great weekend to all!
I can help you putting the material in PDF
Hi guys,
it's been a while since I've appeared in this forum. I hope everyone is well.
I think it's high time we accepted that roulette is an unbeatable diabolical wheel.
I personally do not try to beat roulette anymore because I'm having good results playing Baccarat and making money. Next year I'm going to Las Vegas.
I've created a new Baccarat strategy and I'm having amazing results. I will make the strategy available for free to only who bought the Double Attack©
If you bought the Double Attack© please wait for more information on how to get it.
See ya
hello andree. sorry for my poor English. I thank you for giving me a free double attack system. It wins more than the losses. It requires good discipline. Now I am using CHT's BCR system. Have you tried it yet? Wish you always happy :'(
He’s back for his next money making scheme. Cool.
Andre it would be great if you can share the strategy for free, but please don't sell it here. It's nothing personal. You said your strategy "never loses" which I and others found to be untrue. I don't think it's good for forum integrity to allow further sales in this case.
An extraordinary source for solid bac info is to research everything and anything that Dr. Elliot Jacobson has ever said on the subject. He goes into fabulous detail and explains the math behind every version of advantage play that is available for the game and it's numerous side bets. My jaw drops when I read many of the AP opportunities that he's exposed and basically explains how to utilize. All of it's free and out there on the internet.
I realized that I'm not welcome here anymore.
Time to leave definitely.
Good luck to all!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 05, 03:07 AM 2018
I realized that I'm not welcome here anymore.
Time to leave definitely.
Good luck to all!
Hey Andre
Nice to see you back here
you are definitely welcome..
Tell us more about you and your baccarat adventures
Quote from: The General on Dec 05, 02:04 AM 2018
An extraordinary source for solid bac info is to research everything and anything that Dr. Elliot Jacobson has ever said on the subject. He goes into fabulous detail and explains the math behind every version of advantage play that is available for the game and it's numerous side bets. My jaw drops when I read many of the AP opportunities that he's exposed and basically explains how to utilize. All of it's free and out there on the internet.
Did not find the free source of info yet.
All I found is ''almost free'' books...
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When a newcomer arrives
Then Asks if there is any methods he can play
Then a year later sells a method, then it’s not worth buying
He isn’t making the money at the game so he has to sell
I don't have those ones, but the AP books I have are great for covering a wide range of games (good for general knowledge). Mostly they explain scams and cheating. When it comes to AP, I find most of it is old news. In particularly the roulette sections are very vague. But on the bright side, it's good news if it's an indicator of the casino staff's knowledge of roulette AP.
The average casino staff has only a vague understanding of roulette's vulnerabilities. There are some consultants that have a way better understanding than others, but it's still quite limited.
Well, I will not argue with my haters. I'm not selling my new strategy. I'll just sent it for free only to who bought Double Attack ©.
If you bought the Double Attack, just wait for more information on how to get the new one.
Again... I won't sell it.
You will test the new strategy and feel free to post the results here.
I named the strategy FINAL ATTACK ©
For example, in 80 games played, you win 70 and lose 10. Using progression 1, 2, 4 you will break even. So the win rate would be 7: 1. What if you could change the win rate from 7: 1 to 7: 0.3? This approach is included in my new strategy.
if i were steve, i would charge each system's seller a commission.
they are using a platform for free!
Double Attack© - Final Strike is almost ready.
At the moment I'm traveling. If you bought Double Attack © please wait for more information on how to get the new one for free.
Again, I won't sell the strategy.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 06, 03:07 PM 2018if i were steve, i would charge each system's seller a commission.
I do not understand why selling is bad? All world that does and all are happy. Now imagine you want beer, but nobody sells to you because somebody thinks that to sell beer is bad.
Will you like that?
Andre, if youre giving it to people you already know, you already have each other's contact details. Publishing contact details here looks more like a discrete way to sell.
Bebe, i have no problem with selling provided it is done in the provided area, but often there are other circumstances. For example, andre sold another system he falsely claimed never loses. Any selling must be honest. It's not like i check everything, but when theres an obvious part thats misleading, i wont allow it.
Andre it's not personal. Consider my position.
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Dec 08, 05:22 PM 2018I do not understand why selling is bad? All world that does and all are happy. Now imagine you want beer, but nobody sells to you because somebody thinks that to sell beer is bad.
The assumption is if a system worked, it wouldn't be sold. But people don't understand a proper system requires work, like a business for sale.
Quote from: Steve on Dec 08, 05:53 PM 2018
Andre, if youre giving it to people you already know, you already have each other's contact details. Publishing contact details here looks more like a discrete way to sell.
Bebe, i have no problem with selling provided it is done in the provided area, but often there are other circumstances. For example, andre sold another system he falsely claimed never loses. Any selling must be honest. It's not like i check everything, but when theres an obvious part thats misleading, i wont allow it.
Andre it's not personal. Consider my position.
I don't get it
Why won't you ban him ?
For openly violating rules more than once
Which rules exactly? Give examples.
Quote from: Steve on Dec 08, 06:34 PM 2018
Which rules exactly? Give examples.
Selling outside the systems, products and services for sale section
Baiting
Quote from: Steve on Dec 08, 05:53 PM 2018
Andre, if youre giving it to people you already know, you already have each other's contact details. Publishing contact details here looks more like a discrete way to sell.
Bebe, i have no problem with selling provided it is done in the provided area, but often there are other circumstances. For example, andre sold another system he falsely claimed never loses. Any selling must be honest. It's not like i check everything, but when theres an obvious part thats misleading, i wont allow it.
Andre it's not personal. Consider my position.
Steve, I'm not selling it. I'm just sharing it with who had purchased the first one.
Steve, this is the Main Forum Board
Yet we get this shit
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 08, 07:10 PM 2018
The Double Attack 2.0 © strategy is ready in PDF file.
Before playing for real money, first read through the entire file and test it.
Just send me email with some proof that you had purchased the first one.
Feel free to post the results.
Sharing the strategy is prohibited.
Double Attack 2.0 All Rights Reserved
And your point on displaying the result are.
🤔
Quote from: Steve on Dec 08, 05:55 PM 2018But people don't understand a proper system requires work,
But that is their problem.
Say somebody sells medical and who bought died. Who is guilty in death - that who sold medical ????
Or say I am a painter and sell mine works. I think that is the same as systems. Who not like simply not buy, where is a problem ...
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Dec 08, 09:41 PM 2018
But that is their problem.
Say somebody sells medical and who bought died. Who is guilty in death - that who sold medical ????
Or say I am a painter and sell mine works. I think that is the same as systems. Who not like simply not buy, where is a problem ...
Bebe, when you confirm Andre's shit
tell Steve he is WRONG
System bet wins playing in the long run
Tell that into his face :twisted:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 08, 07:07 PM 2018
Steve, I'm not selling it. I'm just sharing it with who had purchased the first one.
Where can i purchase the first one ...
IAR000, be aware Andre sold a system he claimed never loses. But it lost and made people angry, considering his original claim. Now this system is apparently even better.
I see many people who make a claim their system is the best ever, and only for $49.95. And it turns out to be a flop. I suggest dont blindly jump at the opportunity to send someone money, just because they say their system works.
Quote from: Steve on Dec 09, 05:05 PM 2018
IAR000, be aware Andre sold a system he claimed never loses. But it lost and made people angry, considering his original claim. Now this system is apparently even better.
I see many people who make a claim their system is the best ever, and only for $49.95. And it turns out to be a flop. I suggest dont blindly jump at the opportunity to send someone money, just because they say their system works.
If you read the thread a lot of people liked my strategy.
No strategy pleases everyone, just like your roulette computers too.
You are accusing me to be a scammer.
And I'm not having the right to defend myself
Quote from: Steve on Dec 09, 05:05 PM 2018
IAR000, be aware Andre sold a system he claimed never loses. But it lost and made people angry, considering his original claim. Now this system is apparently even better.
I see many people who make a claim their system is the best ever, and only for $49.95. And it turns out to be a flop. I suggest dont blindly jump at the opportunity to send someone money, just because they say their system works.
You agree then
You just didn't like the way I wrote it
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20924.msg211651#msg211651
Andre, I clearly say computers arent for everyone. But effectiveness is another matter. There is nothing more effective, but its irrelevant here.
It someone was selling a car they said could fly, but it doesnt and the salesperson know it doesnt, then that's a scam. You said your system never loses, but it does lose. What do you expect people to believe in this case?... That you were honest?
And knowing your claim was false, about a product you are selling, would it be wise to allow false claims?
Its not complicated or personal.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 09, 05:24 PM 2018
If you read the thread a lot of people liked my strategy.
No strategy pleases everyone, just like your roulette computers too.
You are accusing me to be a scammer.
And I'm not having the right to defend myself
Your posts of claims are premeditated to bait.
You intentionally violated forum rules to conduct maketing activities outside this sales, product, services for sale section
You made false claims that your system never lose.
Steve, for some reason, has chosen not to ban you with multiple intentioned repeated violations.
Quote from: luckyfella on Dec 09, 07:16 PM 2018
Your posts of claims are premeditated to bait.
You intentionally violated forum rules to conduct maketing activities outside this sales, product, services for sale section
You made false claims that your system never lose.
Steve, for some reason, has chosen not to ban you with multiple intentioned repeated violations.
Am I talking to you?
Did you test the strategy?
Take care of your business...
And yes, I never lose using the strategy betting on the right conditions and the right progression. Using the brain.
A lot of people is satisfied using the strategy.
And the strategy is at the sales section. Check the other thread.
Again, take care of you business. Get a life
Andre I'm asking you to drop the "this system is free but only if you buy from me" thing. Further related messages wont be approved.
Saying you never lose, and you never lose unless conditions are right, are two different things. When spin outcomes are random, there are no conditions other than random. Random is random. And progression wont change anything because the odds and payouts are still the same. I guess you dont understand that. But at the very least, you'd understand what "It never loses" is likely to make some people believe.
So the method he sold wasn’t good enough so now there’s a free method for those that bought the rubbish
Hahahaha
Quote from: Steve on Dec 09, 09:04 PM 2018
When spin outcomes are random, there are no conditions other than random. Random is random.
I don't think it's about spins. It is meant for Baccarat...
I'm doing it at the appropriate place:
Systems, Products & Services For Sale
I posted the YouTube video link because you don't want that I post my email here. The YouTube video has my email. And the name of the strategy is the same: Double Attack. The difference is that now the name is Double Attack 2.0.
The new baccarat strategy is for free to who purchased the previous one.
What am I doing wrong?
I'm not a scammer, I'm not misleading anyone.
The previous strategy works fine and again I have to say that I never lose using it in long term betting on the right conditions and a right progression. Some people doesn't like the strategy as they don't like your computers too
I see there's no freedom here to people to decide if they want to buy a strategy or not. It seems that you are the guy who decides who can sell a strategy.
Again, I'm doing not wrong.
You're blaming me.
And I'm not having the right to defend myself
On moderate mode
I already explained it and dont want to explain again.
Andre Chas disappeared for 3 months or so, it seems he did that intentionally, then he suddenly appeared again saying that he has now a new system.
To fool people he is saying that the new system is free for those who bought the first one, his goal is to let people buy the first one.
Yes and in the message of his i deleted, he said he changed his mind and wanted yo sell it after all, but in the sale area. I'm not interested in wasting more time on it. He has made me re-think my stance on allowing sales. I still think it should be allowed, but with much less tolerance.
Most people would agree with me. But there are always some that still think i'm trying to censor the HG. Most selling takes place off the forum in private, where "gurus" offer their victims the secrets.
Step 1: Tell everyone about your great system... but it's not for sale. It's too good to sell.
Step 2: Wait for the victims to beg you to accept money.
Quote from: Steve on Dec 10, 02:36 AM 2018
Yes and in the message of his i deleted, he said he changed his mind and wanted yo sell it after all, but in the sale area. I'm not interested in wasting more time on it. He has made me re-think my stance on allowing sales. I still think it should be allowed, but with much less tolerance.
Most people would agree with me. But there are always some that still think i'm trying to censor the HG. Most selling takes place off the forum in private, where "gurus" offer their victims the secrets.
Step 1: Tell everyone about your great system... but it's not for sale. It's too good to sell.
Step 2: Wait for the victims to beg you to accept money.
Steve, this poster deserves the ban.
Look all the people here tonight!
Some haters, of course.
It has been a long time...
Yes, Im at the wrong place. Im a baccarat player in a roulette forum. But I also play roulette for fun...
Im posting here the double attack strategy (second version). Just a gift...
I just play this strategy now and then, so Im sharing it.
Give it a try if you want
Improve it if you want
Post the results here if you want
PS: I won't argue with haters.
Have fun!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 23, 10:53 PM 2019
Look all the people here tonight!
Hé!
11 downloads already!
Bravo et merci!
Andre.
You can share details.
How many triggers you have daytime for example, 8 hours of observation.
And whether without using the recovery mode using eg 1-1-3
We are able to grind out any profit?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 23, 10:53 PM 2019
Look all the people here tonight!
Some haters, of course.
It has been a long time...
Yes, Im at the wrong place. Im a baccarat player in a roulette forum. But I also play roulette for fun...
Im posting here the double attack strategy (second version). Just a gift...
I just play this strategy now and then, so Im sharing it.
Give it a try if you want
Improve it if you want
Post the results here if you want
PS: I won't argue with haters.
Have fun!
Andre,
Good to hear from you.
I have a lot of baccarat-related stuff (test results of some strategies) to discuss with you and Arthur and I will contact you guys through the usual channel (outside of this forum) in the next 3-4 days.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 24, 02:20 AM 2019
Andre,
Good to hear from you.
I have a lot of baccarat-related stuff (test results of some strategies) to discuss with you and Arthur and I will contact you guys through the usual channel (outside of this forum) in the next 3-4 days.
Good to hear from you too.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 01, 03:30 PM 2019
Good to hear from you too.
Dear ANDRE CHASS, I carefully studied your entire thread on the forum. Sorry, I am writing through a translator, since I am from Russia. We have very few people playing in Baccarat. It’s a pity that I didn’t talk to you before. I’ll try to play on your manuals, I’ll surely write what happened)
Interestingly, are you also in the game now? It will be very nice if you get in touch)
Quote from: WINNER_#1 on Aug 28, 02:58 AM 2019
Interestingly, are you also in the game now?
Yes, I am and doing well. :thumbsup:
Final Attack - Baccarat Strategy
Coming soon
That's the best one. I've tested hundreds shoes and I'm excited on the results.
I need some testers to prove I'm wrong or not.
If you want to test the strategy please send me a message inbox.
After the tests I will post the strategy here.
I'm not selling it
Cảm Æ¡n . Tôi mong chá» Ä'iá»u Ä'ó
TÆ°Æ¡ng tá»± ở Ä'ây. Súp Ä'ã cÅ© và má»'c.
You guys speak Sriracha now?
Bạn là con trai của một con dê mẹ.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 28, 07:43 PM 2019
Final Attack - Baccarat Strategy
Coming soon
That's the best one. I've tested hundreds shoes and I'm excited on the results.
I need some testers to prove I'm wrong or not.
If you want to test the strategy please send me a message inbox.
After the tests I will post the strategy here.
I'm not selling it
Hi Andre, may i test this strategy ?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Dec 28, 07:43 PM 2019
I need some testers to prove I'm wrong or not.
If you want to test the strategy please send me a message inbox.
I wrote you in private messages, and in the fall I also wrote to you, but you did not answer (((
Hey) Where did the TS go? Does he really want to take part in the test, which he himself decided to invite?
Bump
;)
Baccarat is equivalent to betting on a coin flip, no different than any even chance roulette bet without having to worry about zeros, just a small house edge.
Hello baccarat fan
i wanted to talk about " Vegas grind money management system"
I am a student of the guy , and i really like his system, it's flat betting with sometime increasing the bet in certain condition , very conservative approach with a win goal , and a stop loss.
here the video : link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=YKgc1EPFOl8&
Check his free lesson on youtube, i think it may help us
No martingale very safe approach, you will grind and win slowly with realistic approach, not flashy fake stuff
you can email him, he is very friendly
i am at lesson 4 , waiting the lesson 5 , that helped me a lot
Best regard
I understand what to enter after three identical columns .. but I don’t understand when to start placing a bet ???
Sorry for the translation .. I'm from another country.