Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Thank you Ignatus Sir for all your researches and sharings.
This is my humble request to you to pls post your any system / systems into this thread which has passed at least 100k spins test. No matter if it fails for next 100k, if it has passed even once I request you to please post it here.
Love and Light,
Sugtips
Dozen Dagger
TRIGGER; Wait for a dozen repeat (4) times, then bet the other two unhit dozens *once*...then STOP, (Repeat procedure).
Progressionline; 5,15,45,115,290,725
THIS just passed 100 000 spins (RNG)
only did 1 test so far,...
RX-code
system "Dozen Dagger2"
// © ignatus 2019 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [5,15,45,115,290,725]
to Record "progression" Data
Set List [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]
to Record "SingleHit" Data
end
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Copy List [1st dozen]
to Record "doz1" Layout
Copy List [2nd dozen]
to Record "doz2" Layout
Copy List [3rd dozen]
to Record "doz3" Layout
while on each spin
begin
If any outside bet won each
begin
set flag "doz1" false
set flag "doz2" false
set flag "doz3" false
set flag "bet" false
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "SingleHit" Data Index
clear Record "doz1" Layout
clear Record "doz2" Layout
clear Record "doz3" Layout
end
if total bankroll <= -4000 each
begin
stop session
end
{ if total bankroll >= 200 each
begin
stop session
end
}
IF any outside bet lost each
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if 1st dozen has hit 4 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz2" Layout List
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz3" Layout List
end
if 2nd dozen has hit 4 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz1" Layout List
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz3" Layout List
end
if 3rd dozen has hit 4 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz1" Layout List
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "doz2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
set flag "doz1" false
set flag "doz2" false
set flag "doz3" false
set flag "bet" false
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "SingleHit" Data Index
clear Record "doz1" Layout
clear Record "doz2" Layout
clear Record "doz3" Layout
End
end
END
Did some test real wheel spins.
But the question is, what would be the best test methods systems .etc spins from RNG or real roulette wheels spins.
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 23, 12:57 AM 2019Dozen Dagger
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Many thanks Ignatus Sir, great system. much appreciated. Love and Light Sugtips
Could anybody make a "Bot" for this system? I am sure those who would want the "Bot" would all chip in to pay for it? Live not RNG
Quote from: ignatus on Jun 23, 12:57 AM 2019Wait for a dozen repeat (4) times, then bet the other two unhit dozens *once*...then STOP, (Repeat procedure).
This is not 100K spins tested. Many of the spins from the 100K total are just waiting for the trigger to happen then just 1 actual bet and wait again. This is MUCH LESS than 100K tested. I guess we care for 100K bets made and not 100K spins of ball waiting
I just went over 500 spins on William Hill "Speed Roulette" in the 500 spins the trigger happened 4 times with 100% hit rate
Just thought you would like to know >:D
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Jul 01, 08:46 AM 2019
This is not 100K spins tested. Many of the spins from the 100K total are just waiting for the trigger to happen then just 1 actual bet and wait again. This is MUCH LESS than 100K tested. I guess we care for 100K bets made and not 100K spins of ball waiting
Congratulations for saying that.
The very real and sad fact is that the author is a roulette veteran of over a decade and still cannot grasp this or other simple facts such as sky is blue and grass is green.
This is an accurate measure of the level of ignorance and stupidity we are up against.
link:s://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/
Please just kill yourself thanks.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Jul 01, 04:10 PM 2019
Congratulations for saying that.
The very real and sad fact is that the author is a roulette veteran of over a decade and still cannot grasp this or other simple facts such as sky is blue and grass is green.
This is an accurate measure of the level of ignorance and stupidity we are up against.
Hoping to help here. Ran a test over 200k recorded spins.
There were only 4449 instances where a dozen hit 4(or more) times in a row. There's only so much i can test!
Here's the breakdown of the results:
Instant win after 4th dozen hit: 2988 wins
There were 1461 instances where the dozen carried on running after 4 hits:
Losses before win:
1 x1012
2 x319
3 x89
4 x30
5 x8
6 x0
7 x2
8 x1
After a loss you would have to triple your bet to keep going, so expect to need a big enough bankroll to do so.
With a bank of 242 units you can carry on for 6 spins with this progression:
1, 3, 9, 27, 81
But IMO based on the above, for 4446 wins @ 1 unit a win will only get you a total of 3723 units (if you bet up to 6 spins, making 3 losses of 242 units)
Not worth it.
But still keep up the good work IG. Love your ideas
EDIT: Math
Keep up the good work??
What on earth are you talking about?
It's total nonsense, every single one of these so called systems by Ignatus (and there are hundreds of them across every single roulette forum on the Internet) are all exactly the same repackaged bullsh!t.
Wait for a trigger even though its been mathematically proven for over 100 years that triggers don't exist and make absolutely no difference to anything.
Then if so called trigger occurs then bet using a long and lengthy progression again something which has been mathematically proven to ultimately lose.
Then finally the same defence that it's only meant to be played hit and run where once again it has been mathematically proven for over a 100 years that hit and run is exactly the same as one long continuous session.
It's completely absurd nonsense and you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for supporting it.
Woah dude chill...
Any contribution on the forums is good IMO. Whether it's already proven to be bad or fallacy or whatever. It's good to get ideas down on paper and share thoughts so people can come in and disprove them so others with the same thoughts don't make silly mistakes and/or lose money.
Even if every single method that IG shares is total BS, i'd rather he share so others can investigate and say whether it's good or bad.
If we slam anyone for sharing bad ideas you then you're not helping the community to get to the good ones. Yes IG may have bad ideas, but if he stopped sharing because you've been slamming him for being stupid, he might not share anymore, and we could "potentially" lose out on him sharing a "potential" HG (if it even exists).
All i'm saying is support all ideas on here, good or bad, so everyone can learn from it. Veterans or not, we all make mistakes.
Sparks the problem is with any test you will not sit at the table for 200k spins. The way I test is to work out how many spins the tested wheel does an hour. Say 30 to make things easy. I then mark off the first 30 spins as that is the most I would ever sit at a table per session. Then test those 30 spins. Then I would maybe cross off 15 spins (1/2 hour break) and maybe do the next 30 spins etc etc
I don't know if this is the right or wrong way to test but it must give a fairer result???
Also the reason I don't post much any more is that if you suggest anything Good Bad or Indifferent, You just get slagged off by the same old people.
As Sparks says CHILL OUT !!!! lol
Ignatus Keep on Posting I THINK YOUR GREAT !!!!
Quote from: Let Me Win on Jul 02, 06:28 AM 2019
link:s://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/
Please just kill yourself thanks.
It's your eyes whose seeing it blue. Study more about color theory and how human eyes sees color.
link:s://:.forbes.com/sites/briankoberlein/2017/01/11/earths-skies-are-violet-we-just-see-them-as-blue/
Quote from: sturrock on Jul 02, 09:22 AM 2019
Sparks the problem is with any test you will not sit at the table for 200k spins. The way I test is to work out how many spins the tested wheel does an hour. Say 30 to make things easy. I then mark off the first 30 spins as that is the most I would ever sit at a table per session. Then test those 30 spins. Then I would maybe cross off 15 spins (1/2 hour break) and maybe do the next 30 spins etc etc
I don't know if this is the right or wrong way to test but it must give a fairer result???
It depends on how each individual plays, if you prefer going to your local casino to play then yes i agree, only look at what is most likely to give you a nice lump of cash after about 30-50 spins and walk out smiling.
If you're looking for something long term you can automate (like IG is doing) and leave running in the background on your computer raking in money as you spend time doing other things (like spending the money!) then you will need to test over thousands of spins to make sure your bankroll doesn't crash while you're away.
I would like to think that is everyone's end goal here, to find a method that you know will always trickle in money over time while knowing that whatever progression you're using won't eventually crash your bank.
I support IG's work, whether it's some crazy idea that may never become a reality or something that might have substance to it. Either way the goal here is to come together and spark an idea someone might not have had before and develop on it until we can get it working. That's why there's over 160 pages on Vaddis, no one has managed to get it to work but we still believe it's a good
IDEA that should be worked on.
I like looking into other peoples thoughts and see if i can turn them into something profitable and sharing the results i find, good and bad.
That way someone else doesn't have to repeat the work and waste time chasing something potentially bad. I've been away from the forum for a while now but i'm back from my break and very disappointed how toxic the site has become now.
I just hope people can put differences aside and start supporting each other again
Yes I'm very disappointed too how the forum has been taken over by people claiming precognition is real, that the sky is not blue, and that triggers, hit & run and negative progressions are valid concepts on which to base a system.
It's enough to bring on a fit of apoplexy.
I’m going to interject here
Precognition is not fantasy
If science is right about time and space.....if science is right about the multi dimensional theory and there being upwards of 12 dimensions, then precognition is not only possible but it occurs
Come on man, science.
String theory and multi dimensional theory is amazing stuff.
Now I’m not saying that people here use precognition to beat roulette. They can just be a little crazy. But the science is real.
String theory, quantum mechanics etc is a fantastic subject but having extra dimensions does not make precognition real.
For a start our brains are not equipped to imagine extra dimensions it's just not possible to do so evolution didn't give us that ability.
That's why we use maths.... We live in 3 dimensions which we can experience so we can call them x y z
When we want to work with more dimensions we can't imagine them but we can add extra letters like v and w to work with five dimensions for example.
The current view is we live in a world of 11 dimensions by the way.
Smoke some DMT and you’ll hit the 5th dimension >:D
I smoke weed most days.
Do you play roulette online for real money?
I drink coffee everyday. I can see in the future that my blatter will require maintenance.
I used to play online for money
But being in NY I had to use casinos that could steal my money if they wanted to so I never made big deposits. Online gaming is illegal here.
My local Casinos have air ball so I just do that these days
I play a very simple method with a 5 step martingale progression. Only with money I can afford to lose because one day it will lose and I know that
When I sit down I go ten back on the board and cross off those numbers. Then I cross them off as they come until 18 remain. When 18 numbers remain I bet them. If I lose I tap repeat and x2 and do this up to 5 times
I’m not into fancy methods. This is easy and with airball and the rebet and x2 Button it’s simple
I also believe in limiting exposure and playing for a statistically insignificant number of spins
I also don’t post anymore because the forum pushes AP and computers. Not my thing.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 03, 02:17 PM 2019
I used to play online for money
But being in NY I had to use casinos that could steal my money if they wanted to so I never made big deposits. Online gaming is illegal here.
My local Casinos have air ball so I just do that these days
I play a very simple method with a 5 step martingale progression. Only with money I can afford to lose because one day it will lose and I know that
When I sit down I go ten back on the board and cross off those numbers. Then I cross them off as they come until 18 remain. When 18 numbers remain I bet them. If I lose I tap repeat and x2 and do this up to 5 times
I’m not into fancy methods. This is easy and with airball and the rebet and x2 Button it’s simple
I also believe in limiting exposure and playing for a statistically insignificant number of spins
I also don’t post anymore because the forum pushes AP and computers. Not my thing.
That's a pretty cool method, thanks for sharing Ghost.
Thanks
Just hoping when it busts the profit outweighs it
I only like system play too.
I am back to playing online only again as I am using my own tracker to track the selections of a hybrid of systems that would be too complicated for a real life casino.
Hi RG,do you only bet until you have 1 win then stop or do you go 5 times like progression
Hi RG
Don't know if I have this right? Go back last10 numbers, say 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 You then wait for them to come out again until you have 18 numbers that not have hit twice Then bet on the 18 unhit numbers? :o
Not interested in any response. Just something for you to ponder!
Notto, is this good or bad results? Lol
I know it will fail at some point just hoping to recover fast
It’s simple and easy.
The star progression would work well on my method but I’m just not in it to make a living. Just some cash here and there
Quote from: sturrock on Jul 04, 12:28 PM 2019
Hi RG
Don't know if I have this right? Go back last10 numbers, say 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 You then wait for them to come out again until you have 18 numbers that not have hit twice Then bet on the 18 unhit numbers? :o
No rhyme or reason to it. I just do it and it’s working out for me
I just cross off numbers as they come. I’ll go back 10 numbers on history board to speed things up
When 18 numbers remain I bet those numbers with a 5 step Marty. It’s easy on air all with the 2x button and rebet button
Marty is never a smart gambling move, but I’m playing with a small amount of money so when I lose I won’t care.