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Title: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: bigmoney on Mar 18, 04:50 PM 2021
well priyankas little mate praline claims  he has almost got his holy grail
which he intends to change hislifestyle
and help out his friends

in true vaddis fashion  he intends to leave clues.
the purpose of this post is to reverse engineer his work( praline ....i know you are smiling)...anyway we should look at his / she...previous posts

so we can get this party started
looking forward to fellow posters contributions
thank you in advance
                      BIG MONEY
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Klausy on Mar 19, 05:17 AM 2021
I try and keep an open mind but it's easy to say you have a HG without proving it. It's also easy to provide cherry picked evidence on your own numbers.

If it's that impressive and you want to string people along with riddles then demonstrate it on a third party side like MPR or RSim.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: bigmoney on Mar 19, 05:28 AM 2021
im waiting for praline to appear
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 19, 09:24 AM 2021
I can't wait.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: winkel on Mar 19, 11:18 AM 2021
people are waiting since yesterday
for the luck to come tomorrow
thinking of what they would do the day after tommorow
and forget it is today
oooh what poor people they are
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Mar 19, 12:44 PM 2021
Hi, guys!

Please let me know when you will stop waiting and start working.

A lot of what I know is on this forum. The rest is on the wikipedia (please make donations for wiki).
But still, it is not enough.

If you want to start some constructive discussion, I will make some contribution. Otherwise, keep waiting.

Have a nice day.

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Mar 19, 01:28 PM 2021
If we will collect 1000$ donations for wikipedia, I will think about sharing what I know.
Ofcourse there should be a proof of those donations.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Person S on Mar 19, 02:59 PM 2021
Hi, I am also learning loops and betting strategy based on priyanka lessons. I cannot say that I have achieved acceptable results, I carry out the tests according to the principles described in the topic of random thoughts, the recent discovery is a green leaf, but I noticed that there are mistakes in this poster.
It would be great to hear thoughts from old students and work on these concepts.
Of course, if it's not sarcasm)
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: winkel on Mar 19, 04:28 PM 2021

Please let me know when you will stop waiting and start working.


Where are the tools, parts, fabric, needles and pins, crimson and clover?

Nothing to work with!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 04:54 AM 2021
If we will collect 1000$ donations for wikipedia, I will think about sharing what I know.
Ofcourse there should be a proof of those donations.

Everything seems to be on the £1000 mark these days ..

Why  this place to donate ..children in need sounds a better place to send money ..

Anyway I’ve  seen it all now ...everyone chasing other people’s dreams for a price ..cheaper to read ..learn ..and make your own dream ..

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Mar 20, 05:13 AM 2021
Plenty of children in need right here on this forum. 

Save The Children is a wonderful charity though. 


Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 05:21 AM 2021
Totally agree blueprint...nice to see you knocking about on here still
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Mar 20, 05:34 AM 2021
Totally agree blueprint...nice to see you knocking about on here still

Same to you!   Be well

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Mar 20, 06:42 AM 2021
the recent discovery is a green leaf

The number of times, I had that sentence (sensation ) I'm my head, is uncountable.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Taotie on Mar 20, 06:57 AM 2021
charity starts at home, save your own children.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Austria on Mar 20, 07:22 AM 2021
I would now like to have one on this subject
make a constructive suggestion.

   Apache's HGF v1 (RX-CODE)
*************************************
*        System by Apache           *
*       on the VIP Lounge           *
*************************************
        Rx-ed by St0rm0r

-------------------------------------
            00-c0mpatible
-------------------------------------
HGF = Holy Grail Formula
HGF = (#shows)/#spins*#spins sleeping
Example :
Number 1 hit 19 times in last 660 spins and sleeps 122 spins
HGF number 1 = 19/660*122 = 3,52

I play it quite successfully, and I still think so
Research and tests in the parameter settings.
If there is a serious need, we can work together.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Mar 20, 03:36 PM 2021
Why  this place to donate
Because it's fair to give something back, if you get something for yourself,  even if it's free (like the knowledge or directions).
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 03:52 PM 2021
So wiki is basically where you got your  ideas for a hg ? Not pri not rrbb etc ..just a simple question..and no offence
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 04:47 PM 2021
Not red dwarf ....and dare i say it Keeper of the knowledge ...

Wiki on its own doesn’t cut it for a donation..before wiki  knowledge there’s a starting point to point in that  dictionary

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Ross on Mar 20, 05:23 PM 2021
Number 1 hit 19 times in last 660 spins and sleeps 122 spins

Since all numbers have and equal chance of hitting on every spin the number of hits is irrelevant.
Just look at the spins-since-hit.  Two Cat Sam said that numbers which hadn't hit in 72 spins had never let him down.  Wait until 6 numbers qualify then bet on all 6.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 20, 06:46 PM 2021
I miss twocat Sam ...He would want his moneys worth at a grand
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Austria on Mar 21, 02:19 AM 2021
@ROSS

Sleepers are quite dangerous. Even Apache's HGF is NOT a guaranteed profit. With a lot of discipline you can get 10 EUR daily from roulette.  :lol:
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Austria on Mar 21, 04:16 AM 2021
@ROSS

Sorry ... Here is the exact definition of Apache's HGF.
Bet numbers with 100*HGF higher then: (xx)
and lower then: (xx)

Example: (higher: 50)  (lower: 400)
3,27,35..Set (3)..2,..Set (3,27)..Set (3,27,25)..23,30,20,..Set (3,27,25,2)..ect..

It is advisable to start again after a maximum of 36 spins, after 15 numbers it can only be done with a Martingale .... GAME OVER .....
I hope I don't get a referral from the admin, but I consider the UX software system designer to be a must have for serious roulette players. If I really want to gamble away my money, it makes more sense to donate it to Wiki.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: bigmoney on Mar 24, 06:21 AM 2021
Because it's fair to give something back, if you get something for yourself,  even if it's free (like the knowledge or directions).

praline when are you gonna give back to your brothers and sisters on this forum ???
dont be a hippocrite ...matey
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Mar 24, 08:31 AM 2021
praline when are you gonna give back to your brothers and sisters on this forum ???
dont be a hippocrite ...matey

I can assure you that my brothers from this forum are atleast at the same point where I am.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Person S on Mar 26, 11:31 AM 2021
Pralines, in your opinion, combining bets is a game in one spin or 1 bet in the first and the second in the second spin?
Or in two spins, two combined bets.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Apr 06, 01:58 PM 2021
If we will collect 1000$ donations for wikipedia, I will think about sharing what I know.
Ofcourse there should be a proof of those donations.

No donations - no cookies.  :girl_to:
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 06, 02:44 PM 2021
Maybe members don’t think it’s worth the money
Though desperate members may chip in  together but I doubt it
And maybe as you say other members are on the same par as you if not a bit beyond or a lot beyond

If you did manage to raise the £1000 i would actually join in on the topic too

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Apr 07, 07:36 AM 2021
You're right!

Members prefer donate scammers and not wiki... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Tinsoldiers on Apr 07, 01:31 PM 2021
Am amazed at how many people are falling for such crap. Classic demand supply for scamming.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 07, 02:19 PM 2021
Praline knows it won’t happen tin soldier..I honestly believe it’s a bit like click baiting..or even an ego thing .😎
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: FlyinHawaiian18 on Apr 07, 07:57 PM 2021
If i had the HG,  You wouldn't see me on here!!  Or any other forums for that matter.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FÜR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Austria on Apr 08, 02:07 AM 2021
Yes......
I would publish an HG for FREE.  :twisted:
I benefit from this system.  :twisted: :twisted:
There won't be so many players to put online casinos at risk.
Everything else is selfishness.  :wink:
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Apr 08, 01:54 PM 2021
Guys, I don't know if you noticed,  but it wasn't me who started this thread. Look at my signature saying that I don't have the HG, and show me where I wrote that I have it. After that,  I would like to ask all those buddies who wrote me in PM if I asked them for something, the answer will be no, however.
I really wish that all scammers (like me :wink: :wink:) donate stolen money for wikipedia or other really good sites like cut the knot or any other.

P.S. nice to see you around again, tinsoldiers.

Have a nice day, everybody!


I was very disappointed that wikipedia can shutdown because of money lack,  so I made a proposal here in this thread ( with my name, not started by me), and I was ready to disclose my personal findings (only my PERSONAL discoveries, not those of my friends from this forum), since those didn't bring me nowhere at this point in time.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 08, 02:20 PM 2021
Totally understand prailine ..we all see the signature..and to be fair it wasn’t you who started the thread ..
Wiki will be a never ending money pit..
People pay scammers because they think there getting a hg ..
I know you haven’t
I also am pretty confident you don’t know how to piece all rrbb  red dwarf stuff together
Even Priyanka couldn’t do that as far as I’m aware..
I missed all that stage on the forum for various reasons..
I was after all a long time ago and Young known as commonsense1968 who actually gave an example to dyslexic how he did or could do his system..
Which he promptly deleted..
The only record was a screenshot saved by nicksmi..
Which we all have
I do remember most of dyslexics explanations
 I do think he was the start of all this with cycles..
Stitching etc
Apart from your reluctance to crack on becouse of the wiki donation
I would probably have maybe shed a bit of light on what you are missing
To a certain extent anyway

You know as I do you have nothing to prove and you should also know you shouldn’t be baited

But actually making a wiki donation demand is pretty implausible and that alone will give an excellent excuse not too get involved
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Apr 08, 03:14 PM 2021
Praline knows it won’t happen tin soldier..I honestly believe it’s a bit like click baiting..or even an ego thing .😎

It's more for fun, and less to confirm that people think they deserve the HG, just because...
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: praline on Apr 08, 03:34 PM 2021
I would probably have maybe shed a bit of light on what you are missing
Be careful with words, my friend. You can be accused of raping forum members dreams.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Apr 08, 06:57 PM 2021
I see this is going nowhere fast.  What a cess pool this place has become.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Apr 09, 03:50 PM 2021
Even Priyanka couldn’t do that as far as I’m aware..

yikes... Pri doesn't like his name thrown around like that.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 09, 04:10 PM 2021
lol blueprint..
A lot of factors gives you this conclusion..
Apart from  the admission ..though that could be a red herring
Shame pri was banned..

I could talk all day with Priyanka
Probably yap all week with red dwarf
And rrbb
Any of them could join roulettelife and send me a pm on there
Though I would need some proof it was actually them

Same for Priyanka too ..
Pri has the same thought process as me in a lot of respects



Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Apr 09, 05:16 PM 2021
I didn’t know they were banned but haven’t heard from Pri since September. 

Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: saihtaM on Apr 13, 11:09 PM 2021
Hello,

I see this is going nowhere fast.  What a cess pool this place has become.

I would very much like to investigate the topic of beating roulette based on non-random principles further, whether here or somewhere else.

My only other posting so far (in "Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers") regarding an alternative way to create "cycles" and imbalances did not result in a reply (at least I did not notice any). Maybe it's a dead end anyway, but I thought it was interesting.

Thank you to everyone who provided information and hints over the years (including you, Blueprint).

If anyone is still willing to work together to get closer to a solution or (in case they already have it) open to questions from those willing to do their homework, I would be thankful.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 15, 05:47 AM 2021
Guys ! nice topic,  since its a study group, I will join you for the chase :)  I would like some of you post here between 240 and 300 real spins ,  I am testing a program I wrote and its promising!  the challenge is simple you post here the spins you keep the last 6 spins and post the rest, I will post you the next 6 numbers with a hit rate of 33% to 60%.  (flat bet the 6 numbers)
for example if you have 240 spins you post  here 240-6 = 234 spins and keep the 6 to you , u can post them after I post here the predictions to compare. I will make my program open source free in my github (http://nolinkss://github.com/DanShai)    if it succeed ! so u can play with it.
who's interested ?
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
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Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 15, 04:49 PM 2021
Alex next 6 numbers should be close to  :

30,  22 ,  18, 13 ,  7,  27
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: alexlaf on Apr 15, 06:30 PM 2021
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Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 15, 07:13 PM 2021
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thanx Alex !
so got 1 right and 3 close numbers from 6, not bad :) still I have to tune some parameters.  for those who are wondering, i am doing this for of my AI research studies. more details later !
Next time I guess we try with small data size like 120 spins and to predict next 3 instead of 6.
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 16, 07:34 AM 2021
thanx Alex !
so got 1 right and 3 close numbers from 6, not bad :) still I have to tune some parameters.  for those who are wondering, i am doing this for of my AI research studies. more details later !
Next time I guess we try with small data size like 120 spins and to predict next 3 instead of 6.

Fine work !
I am focusing on Al as I have already programmed multiple approaches using neural network.
I dunno how far did you reach with your implementation but if you want we can keep in touch, perhaps we merge some
Ideas and get even better result

Bye
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 09:20 AM 2021
Fine work !
I am focusing on Al as I have already programmed multiple approaches using neural network.
I dunno how far did you reach with your implementation but if you want we can keep in touch, perhaps we merge some
Ideas and get even better result

Bye
yeah good idea, point me to your github we might create a project together.  i am now getting better results with next 3 spins instead of 6 , i got them all right or just +1 / -1 diff. need more spins to tests .  if u have 180 real spins (  or RNG ? maybe the program would decipher the generator algo )  in a  file or post it here or put the file in  ur github. I will try to guess the next 3.
cheers
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
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Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 10:33 AM 2021
thanx  alex ! next  are near those numbers:

5, 10, 14
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: alexlaf on Apr 16, 12:05 PM 2021
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Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 12:48 PM 2021
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wow ! thanx alex I was close again :)  this seem promising
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: alexlaf on Apr 16, 12:55 PM 2021
i'm getting 500 spins from  live ..if you want more tell me
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 01:07 PM 2021
i'm getting 500 spins from  live ..if you want more tell me
cool! just  some consecutive 180 at time  from anywhere those 500 ,  from middle or anywhere from them  will do :)
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
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Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 16, 03:02 PM 2021
Guys ! nice topic,  since its a study group, I will join you for the chase :)  I would like some of you post here between 240 and 300 real spins ,  I am testing a program I wrote and its promising!  the challenge is simple you post here the spins you keep the last 6 spins and post the rest, I will post you the next 6 numbers with a hit rate of 33% to 60%.  (flat bet the 6 numbers)
for example if you have 240 spins you post  here 240-6 = 234 spins and keep the 6 to you , u can post them after I post here the predictions to compare. I will make my program open source free in my github (http://nolinkss://github.com/DanShai)    if it succeed ! so u can play with it.
who's interested ?

That’s a lot of numbers and in real play not practical
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: Blueprint on Apr 16, 03:08 PM 2021
"guess who is coming to dinner!"
Title: Re: STUDY GROUP FOR PRALINES HOLY GRAIL
Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 09:26 PM 2021
That’s a lot of numbers and in real play not practical
could you just ask if u dnt understand what we are doing ?  what do u mean by not practical ?! we are dealing with last 180 spins witch just a copy paste from ur casino table history or fill them by hand to the program while u waiting ur play, its not much . then predicting instantly the next 3  in live session or ( test session as im doing now, testing) 
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 16, 10:18 PM 2021
9 last number

next : 4 18 12
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 17, 12:20 AM 2021
Fine work !
I am focusing on Al as I have already programmed multiple approaches using neural network.
I am actually using multi step architecture for the  generator, first a monte carlo ( hasting for example, look at my github for coin example) to simulate the roulette given its random numbers ( real spins) , with that I get a posterior distribution. then this distrib will be used for the next step when using a BNN bayesian network   nolinkss://nolinks.cs.toronto.edu/~rgrosse/courses/csc421_2019/slides/lec19.pdf   and tune in such way that my posterior makes it stay in the 95% confidence interval and more setting.. its not complete yet!
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Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 17, 02:14 AM 2021
could you just ask if u dnt understand what we are doing ?  what do u mean by not practical ?! we are dealing with last 180 spins witch just a copy paste from ur casino table history or fill them by hand to the program while u waiting ur play, its not much . then predicting instantly the next 3  in live session or ( test session as im doing now, testing)

Ok I’ll ask..Im talking about a b&m casino..
Not online...
For the online part you are testing when it’s gets to to the generated numbers without the last 6...is it not then possible to go for the prediction then when that’s done ..drop the furthest away same  amount  Of numbers you used and then predict again..
Sort of a stepped rolling basis so to speak..
If it works properly it’ll be just like starting as if you collected results from that new point?
Have you tried this way?
Could your algorithm..neural network accomplish this adjustment?
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 17, 03:29 AM 2021
For the online part you are testing when it’s gets to to the generated numbers without the last 6...is it not then possible to go for the prediction then when that’s done ..drop the furthest away same  amount  Of numbers you used and then predict again..
Sort of a stepped rolling basis so to speak..
If it works properly it’ll be just like starting as if you collected results from that new point?
Have you tried this way?
Could your algorithm..neural network accomplish this adjustment?

it doesnt matter if its online or offline,  suppose u collected the first 180 spins, then the next number comes,  you just add it to the data and get the last 180 and u have 180 spins again. (u add 1 and remove 1 so to speak, u dnt have to "remove" in python , just get the last 180)  like u said rolling. and we are testing  next 3 not next 6 ! although u can set it to whatever number u want,  read the last page :)  and  its a threaded program so in 3 spins you already have a new trained network for the next prediction.  Hope u get it !   u can play it online seamlessly.     
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Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 17, 03:32 AM 2021
Makes sense ..look forward to the end results
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Post by: ati on Apr 17, 03:37 AM 2021
"guess who is coming to dinner!"
Hehe, but it's "educated guessing" :)
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 17, 04:59 AM 2021
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 17, 06:03 AM 2021
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1 number right  ;D
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Post by: Tinsoldiers on Apr 17, 03:55 PM 2021
1 number right  ;D
Good luck chap. Keenly following this.
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 17, 07:39 PM 2021
Schrodinger could you explain us on what it is based? Because only on AI it will be difficult to beat roulette, machine learning cant beat the game...
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 12:57 AM 2021
Good luck chap. Keenly following this.
cheers mate !
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 01:10 AM 2021
Schrodinger could you explain us on what it is based? Because only on AI it will be difficult to beat roulette, machine learning cant beat the game...
the general idea is explained little bit on the top of this page, by taking the Bayesian approach! I based my intuition on the fact that roulette is a physical system and not totally random in the common sense, which can be represented by set of variables. lets investigate some of them:
- we have speed of the wheel and the ball , rotational variables , and lets note the relative distribution diff :  θ
- we have scatters a translation  variables and lets note them by the distribution :  ρ
they can be normally distributed or whatever we choose Δθ∼N(0,σ1) , Δρ ∼N(0,σ2)
from there we can use a Monte Carlo algorithm (refer to this example in my github (http://nolinkss://github.com/DanShai/metropolis_mcmc) to have an idea)  to get the convoluted posterior distribution of  θ  and  ρ , which will generate/simulate the roulette.
then using  a Bayesian neural network BNN to get our prediction generated same way as the roulette itself with some uncertainty interval.. the rest is training and tuning.  Hope this helps :)
cheers
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 18, 05:31 AM 2021
Thanks    :thumbsup:
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 18, 06:09 AM 2021
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 08:00 AM 2021
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 18, 08:10 AM 2021
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 08:22 AM 2021
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yo bru ! are these real or glitch in the matrix :)
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 18, 08:36 AM 2021
Real..i can give the 500 from that set if!
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 08:44 AM 2021
Real..i can give the 500 from that set if!
cool bro ! that was insane  :)  post 180 when u want i will check and post the result.   
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 18, 09:33 AM 2021
Schrodinger here 3 million live spins
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 18, 09:34 AM 2021
Posting seperate because of the 1500KB limit
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 18, 09:35 AM 2021
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 09:39 AM 2021
thanx CLF7 ,  which direction the spins ? last spin  is down or up ?
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Post by: Clf7 on Apr 18, 09:41 AM 2021
You mean clockwise or counter clockwise? If you mean the files then first,second and third from upper first post to the last.
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 18, 09:49 AM 2021
from upper first post to the last.
gotcha ! thnx
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 20, 11:06 AM 2021
Is there any excel sheet or program that keep data where the next number went..example.. 33-12 to count 12 on 33 colum? Ty
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 20, 02:06 PM 2021
Is there any excel sheet or program that keep data where the next number went..example.. 33-12 to count 12 on 33 colum? Ty
Sorry I didnt understand what u meant , could u explain? I could make a program.. I dnt use excel , i thought excel died in the 80s/90s :) 
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 20, 02:35 PM 2021
i made this but i'm getting empty spaces and i dont want that..
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 21, 08:32 AM 2021
i made this but i'm getting empty spaces and i dont want that..
what are you trying to achieve?  what is the number 22 in the 17x17 cell means for example?
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 21, 10:05 AM 2021
i need something like this ..to keep me where  every number went .. i c'ant explain better. so i can see how many times for example after 0 came 32..
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 22, 03:21 AM 2021
.to keep me where  every number went .
sorry i really dnt understand what that mean! maybe u translated it from your language to English ?  and the second picture(looks like table) is different from the first one (looks like matrix)  i cant help u if i dnt understand what the problem/question is bro.  put some proof of concept example , lets say 20 spins and explain what u want to achieve . 
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Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 22, 03:50 AM 2021
Alexaf is placing what number came out after a number everytime it appeared I did this years ago ..
Knicsmi coded it a very long time ago into excel
I don’t know if the sheet works anymore as it’s a big sheet and slow
But here’s the link
nolinkss://nolinks.mediafire.com/file/82uuc4r4cjc7jez/18_Wheeler.xlsx/file
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 22, 05:29 AM 2021
exactly 6TH.. thank you
It doesn't seem to work
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Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 22, 05:58 AM 2021
Maybe nick could help ..as I say he did this years ago for me  and probably outdated now ..
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 22, 06:34 AM 2021
its working  :thumbsup:
thank you again .. from my first 1000k spins i find out that the first number given by the trigger coming out ..
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 22, 06:41 AM 2021
Alexaf is placing what number came out after a number everytime it appeared I did this years ago ..
thanx 6 ! u explained it better :) 
Alex what the trigger  ?
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 22, 07:03 AM 2021
its working  :thumbsup:
thank you again .. from my first 1000k spins i find out that the first number given by the trigger coming out ..
its some kind of transition matrix and u bet after a trigger,  i just made it in python. what the trigger ?  I will post u the code. u dnt need excel for that
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Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 22, 07:04 AM 2021
Nonsens!

All triggers based games are losers!
They lead to nowhere, they just delay  the start point of the  games, but the storm will come now or later...
The only way to win is to hand over the money to the dealer and let him play for you
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Post by: schrodinger on Apr 22, 07:17 AM 2021
Nonsens!

All triggers based games are losers!
They lead to nowhere, they just delay  the start point of the  games, but the storm will come now or later...
The only way to win is to hand over the money to the dealer and let him play for you
true, I agree with u. But he likes to play his system, its his choice we should respect that.  we cannot impose on people what and what not to play.
cheers
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Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 22, 07:26 AM 2021
Nonsens!

All triggers based games are losers!
They lead to nowhere, they just delay  the start point of the  games, but the storm will come now or later...
The only way to win is to hand over the money to the dealer and let him play for you

The thread is getting polluted..maybe stick to it ..rrbb / cycles is fact  not triggers ..redhots statement of 93 % Ds repeats come from the low side of made up stream..
More facts ..
Gather up all the facts you know and put them together..
Your frustration is well..just frustration that you can’t see a bigger picture unless  it’s explained in black and white
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Post by: alexlaf on Apr 22, 07:52 AM 2021
From the excel sheet.
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Post by: nottophammer on Apr 22, 09:18 AM 2021
The thread is getting polluted..maybe stick to it ..rrbb / cycles is fact  not triggers ..redhots statement of 93 % Ds repeats come from the low side of made up stream..
More facts ..
Gather up all the facts you know and put them together..
Your frustration is well..just frustration that you can’t see a bigger picture unless  it’s explained in black and white
Yes 6th it's because he's a huge dick-head
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Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 22, 02:23 PM 2021
Yes 6th it's because he's a huge dick-head

You Nasty stupid clown
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Post by: nottophammer on Apr 22, 04:45 PM 2021
Ah diddums; have your feelings been hurt.
Poor little Bleat,bleat, bleater
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Post by: leontin on Apr 27, 08:48 PM 2021
thanx Alex !
so got 1 right and 3 close numbers from 6, not bad :) still I have to tune some parameters.  for those who are wondering, i am doing this for of my AI research studies. more details later !
Next time I guess we try with small data size like 120 spins and to predict next 3 instead of 6.

Hi, schrodinger. Are you using data analysis with some forecasting method?  :smile: