Cancellation system (question)

[MrJ]

Most know of the cancellation system for the even bets......add the two end numbers together etc etc.

My question is, what if you are only left with one number? Are you then done (start over) or do you just bet whatever that amount is, it might be $6. I hope my question makes sense.

Ken

[TwoCatSam]

Ah, yes!  The old leftover!   I put it in the 'fridge!!

I begin each line with

1  1  Both of these are assumed losses, so my first actual bet is 2.  A win starts me from scratch.  A loss look like this:

1  1  2  and the next bet would be 3.

Suppose you had a left over.  Say 3.  I would begin my new line

1 3  and my first bet is 4.

Say my leftover is large, 10 for example.  I only eat half the leftover on each new line.  Looks like this:

1  5   first bet is 6 and 5 is still in the 'fridge.  Sometimes you add to the 'fridge.  Say the current line ends with a left over of 3.  Now we have 8 in the 'fridge and we may eat the leftovers as we please.  3 at a time or 5 or whatever suits your fancy.

I have played this for a long time.  It works. 

Sam

[MrJ]

Interesting way to start Sam. What do you think of this way to start >> 121

Ken

[MrJ]

Hmmm, been messing with this. Seems like alot of >> RLRLRLRLRL.

Not sure what to do then?

Ken

[GLC]

Ken,  here's how I play it.  I always start with a line of 1.  This is my first bet.  If I win, the 1 unit goes into profits.  If I lose, I have 1 1 and my next bet is 2.

If I get down to only 1 number left in the line, I break that number into halves or as close to halves as I can get and those 2 numbers equal my next bet.  Let's say it's a 7.  My line would be 3 4.  My bet is 7 and if I win, good, game over.  If I lose, my line is 3 4 7 and we're off to the races again.

GLC

[MrJ]

Next bet is 10, right? Lets say you win that, you then bet 4? Then lets say you lose that, is this right > 4 4?

Dont you get alot of RLRLRLRLRL?

Ken

[GLC]

Ken,  Yes, 10 is correct.  After a win on the 3  7 bet, I would split the 4 into 2  2. 

In my humble opinion, we don't have to be so worried about only 1 number left.  Just bet it.  The rule would be bet the leftmost and the rightmost numbers until there's no more numbers to bet or there's only 1 number to bet.  If only 1 number to bet, bet it.  If you win, victory.  If you lose then the system continues.

It's not so critical.  The theory is that we are canceling 2 losses with 1 win, so we should keep on winning as long as our win to loss ratio stays above 33 to 66 not counting the zeros.

There is a cancellation method called "The Midas Method" in which you start by betting the leftmost number.  If it wins, you cross it off.  After every win you bet the leftmost number and the rightmost number in your line.  After every loss, you only bet the leftmost number.  Any time you lose either a leftmost only bet or a both ends bet, you write the total of the loss at the rightmost end of your line.

This method is a little slower than the normal cancellation or as some call it the Labby.

[TwoCatSam]

All

I have never tried 1 2 1 or anything else other than what I wrote.  The thing is, you must maintain the efficiency of the split Martingale--which is what this is.  Every win must cancel two loses or the progression loses its efficiency.  If one win cancels one bet, then it is less effective.

I did make a mistake in my earlier writing.  (It has been a hectic time getting ready for vacation.  That's my excuse!)

What you bring out of the 'fridge must either be A) a whole number that went in, i.e., you had a left over of 5 and you bring it out as 5.  Then your line is 1 5 and your bet is 6.  If you win, you have canceled two loses (one assumed) with one win.

Or B)

If the leftover is too large for comfort bringing it out in one bite, say 10, you can break in in pieces but then those pieces become "add-ons" and not bets in and of themselves.  Example:  In stead of a new line with 1 1, you add 5 to the second 1 and get 1 6.  Now you have two bets with an add-on of 5 units.  A win will cancel two loses: 1 + (1+5).

Naturally there will be times when the line clears and no leftovers remain.  Until that happens, you will have leftovers.  Now, I kept an eye on my profits and when I reach a new high, I scrapped the whole line and started over.

It works....

Sam

[GLC]

I'll bore you with one more cancellation method.  Actually almost all progression bet methods are cancellation methods of some type or another.

In this one we bet the 3 leftmost numbers.  If there are only 1 or 2 numbers, we bet them.  I like to start with a 1 as my line.  Since I only have 1 number, that's what I bet.  If there happens to be 2 numbers, then I add them together and that's what I bet.  But to start we only have a 1, so I bet 1.  If I lose,  I write the lost 1 on the left end of our line and we get 1 1.  Now I bet 2.  If I lose again we have 1 1 2.  Since the rule is to bet the leftmost 3 numbers on each bet, we bet 4.  Another loss and we have 1 1 2 4.  Our 3 leftmost numbers still total 4 so we bet 4 again.  A loss and we have 1 1 2 4 4.  We bet 4 again.  A win and our line looks like this, 4 4.  We now bet 8.  A loss and we have 4 4 8.  We now bet 16.  A loss and we have 4 4 8 16.  We bet 16 again.  A win and we have 16 as our line.  We now bet 16 and a win clears our line and we are +1.

I know.  A lot of betting to just win 1 unit.  But if we win one of the first 3 bets, we win our +1.  If we win 2 of the first 6 bets we win +1.  If we win 3 of the first 9 bets, we win +1 etc...  Granted this baby can cause our bet sizes to sky-rocket, but with enough backbone, bankroll and table spread, it's hard to lose with this one.