Why I called MrJ Names: You be the Judge....

[Azim]

Elleven
If you have doubts about members locations in the world contact the mods or report the post. Let us deal with it. Dont bring accusations into the posts.
All your guessing is wrong. PA is from Malysia and Kimo Lee is USA.......consistantly.

My reply to this:

Turner,  There is no point wasting time on this.. 

Look at Kimo -Li's posting..  The english is perfect.

Here the English is not.

He has the right to give hin't making people work and get the understanding of what they are doing.

Which comes back to the same issue Winkel had, people don't want to try things and want to have it laid out to them on a platter.

MrJ:

"He has the right to give hin't making people work and get the understanding of what they are doing.

Which comes back to the same issue Winkel had, people don't want to try things and want to have it laid out to them on a platter." >>> Wrong answer. 100% or nothing. Not 70%, not 85%.....100%.

Some peoples EGO get inflated regarding......LOOK WHAT I HAVE, DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD IT (mind you, if they have anything at all).

Ken

My reply:

I guess we have a conflict, let me go back to the same issue of education.  Not all professors give you everything, they brief out stuff that are important and leave the rest for you to go and do your research.

I am still being diplomatic...

....and thats awesome!!! Here, its 100% or its deleted, have a nice day.

Ken

Now Here is the Kicker, this is how you read between lines and read someones mind without seeing the person:

10 pages of this "stuff" and my head is spinning. Not real sure what the ACTUAL title of this thread should be...

His head is spinning from reading the 10 pages. I gave him credit that he has read them all.
OH my, look at his next statement: Not real sure what the ACTUAL title of this thread should be...

I am sure if you have read the 10 pages.  The title is correct.


I am trying to run away...

I don't want to go into a battle with this but read this... 


Small minds can't comprehend big spirits.

Do you know where I got it from?

For those that don't know.. It's on his signature...


MrJ's response:

Cool two posts! 100% or its deleted....we can keep going? 100% or its deleted.

Ken

This will actually show how much much knowledge you have about the game.

So in other words Azim, can you post the actual RULES or direct me to an EXACT page of the RULES?

Ken

Before I do that. Simple question?  Is that your understanding of what he is doing?

Everyone who has read the thread would know, there are no rules. He was waking us through steps on how to create your own HG.



Everyone:  This is how you get to know why a mod without reading any of the pages wanted to delete the thread:

I'm going off of the 7 PMs of complaints.

Ken

If you keep going...

BTW there are 19 member's who have posted on this thread..  lets take Turner, Yourself(MrJ) , Himself(P.A) and myself(Azim)
we have 15 member's of which 7 have complained what do you think 8 other's are doing?

This is what set me off:  A Mod can call everyone names be it directly or indirectly.

The other 8? Hopefully making an appointment with a psychotherapist.

Ken

So here is a question for you all:

A mod that has not read any of the pages isn't sure of what the title should be wants to delete a thread?

What do you think I would do. Considering I have just wasted 5 hours of my time?

Is he really fit to be a moderator?

Sorry Steve, I wasn't going to send this to you only.

[iggiv]

Azim, he apologized to you, you apologized to him. So it's over. It's no use crying over spilled milk.

[RouletteGhost]

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[Azim]

Azim, he apologized to you, you apologized to him. So it's over. It's no use crying over spilled milk.

Well the damage is done.. the Glass has been shattered..  it can't be fixed.

[Steve]

Azim, he apologized to you, you apologized to him. So it's over. It's no use crying over spilled milk.

Yes, let's stop beating off the dead horse. There are better things to do.

[Azim]

Yes, let's stop beating off the dead horse. There are better things to do.

Steve,
What you are saying is it was ok for him to use is powers.

Thanks.
It was a pleasure to talk to you all...

[Chrisbis]

It would be useful if someone locked this topic now. 

[MrJ]

At this point, all of your harassment towards me, stay or go, makes no difference to me. I dont beg.

I won't lose five seconds of sleep over it. I have 20 other things on my plate.

Ken

[Still]

A mod that has not read any of the pages isn't sure of what the title should be wants to delete

What do you think I would do. Considering I have just wasted 5 hours of my time?

Did he, or did he not read at least ten pages? There is a contradiction here.  Misrepresenting what the facts may be doesn't help.  He didn't like what he saw.  MJ been around long time with a history of posting all rules to proposed systems.  PA new, unproven, and promising to leave soon. Easy to think he just getting jollies from playing preacher.  Good for you to buy him some time, in case anything worthwhile.  Other ways to handle situations like this, if it did come down to name calling.  Did it? If mod threatens delete, save anything in thread worthwhile, repost, and lobby to get PA (whomever) back. If PA won't come back cause of delete, maybe he wasn't serious to begin with.  My feeling is people ought to be allowed to preach if they generously service the thread, answer all questions promptly, showing that they are making some effort.  That was not the case some months ago when I complained (I don't complain in PMs ever) about a preacher who was vague, careless with English (his first language) , slow to respond to questions (if at all) and was contradicting within the thread and also contradicting his known persona.  If PA is given enough time maybe someone generous like ignatius will make and test (and chart) some method from some of the ideas. Given enough rope PA could hang himself too...if/when it becomes obvious its more about the thrill of attention getting mechanisms than it is about sharing something people could actually use.  I did think it was a little early to shut it down and was glad you were lobbying to keep.  Still, got to keep your wits.  Have a sense of humor.  I never did understand why people post all rules to a method without any faith it would work long term having only tested a few spins.  So there's a downside to rules-posters too (its not sacred). Great for the casinos though.  Likewise there are downsides to pure preachers who never really disclose anything clear enough the average mind can't understand...stringing out the breadcrumbs past even the patient.  Class references pitting experienced members against newbies who need milk is not helpful, IMO.  Playing loose with the term "truth" ("truth hurts") not helpful. Why do people have to use the term Holy Grail, inevitably to use it in vain or jest. Why not just announce "my sacred secret fishing hole".  People don't know what grail means or what holy means, so why use it? Anyways, to pay for your wasted time, you could just use the method MJ posted to make a ton of money, HG or not. Then call it even.

[Steve]

It's the very first rule at link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.0 :

1. No abusive language or personal attacks. This includes even if it is just retaliation for what another member said to you. Moderators will not distinguish between who started it and who is just responding. This is not a court of law. Consider this carefully if someone attacks you - do NOT retaliate or you risk being banned without notice. Instead, just report the member and give specific examples of their breach of the rules. Remember if someone you don't like breaks the rules and you don't, you have the last laugh.

Azim, you are aware you broke the rules. I received no formal complaint about MrJ before you broke the rules. As far as I'm aware, he apologized to you for anything that he may have said or done. You've stated your case, and members can decide for themselves. But keep in mind most members simply dont care. There's nothing productive left for the thread, so I'll close it. If you want to continue the discussion, please do it in private.

I understand that discussions can get personal and heated, but the rules are simple and fair.