Brainstorm

[amk]

Hello everyone,

I had a quick brainstorm and wanted to see what your thoughts are.....
I hope we can come up with some theories....
This method/topic is just to contemplate the idea and possibly create an advantages method.......

Question: Can there be any advantage to playing two roulette wheels at the same time when you have to outplay random.......

My first theory is that if you record the first 3 spins for each roulette wheel

Wheel 1          Wheel 2
    HLL                 LHH

you can bet that the same pattern HLL LHH does not repeat across two separate wheels

hopefully someone can view this playing possibility from a different angle.........

[chrisbis]

This has been discussed previously (i fact not that long ago), and found to be wanting after a while.


I believe it was a live wheel verses another live wheel, to see if Random could beat Random.


Sorry, but if I remember correctly- it didn't work.

[amk]

Hello Chrisbis.....

Ya, just wanted to see....

Seemed really interesting to me.......

There has to be some approach that can work.......

[Tomla021]

i tried it for small stakes a couple of weeks ago, it won but  i don't think it would really work long term but it was fun---where i play you can see the marquee for 3 wheels easily

[Midnight Player]

Hi guys, here is a link to a post I did previously, I used to visit my B&M local and record live spins by standing between two tables....


cheers
MP

link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/two-b-and-m-table-randomness/msg47974/#msg47974


Here is the post:



Hello Everyone,

I have occasionally  recorded two tables spin results simultaneously by noting down the spins as they happen on separate cards, and one tables action runs ahead of the other.  I have been perusing the idea of random numbers to use as a reference trigger to decide on the next bet placed and noticed that the for high/ low spin numbers are normally opposite to each other and looking at my limited data the most similarities, ie losses if one is betting the opposite spin to your time leading table is 5 in a row.  I have not been able to check a lot of spins, only about 4 sessions of 70 to 100 spins each, but there may be something in it.  to check this on line one could log into Dublinbet on two pc's on two different tables and see what the result are.

[Midnight Player]

On a further note this may yield good results as a Pattern4 type of play, where one table is bet against the other for 3 bets, hit and run style. Alternatively on can record last 3 spins at one table then bet the next 3 spins as opposite to them on the next table.... maybe the strike rate will be better than break even and show a profit....I am playing Hit and Run Pattern4 style as per JL method (and this is my progress so far) :


I have played 304 sessions, won 270, lost 33. SR is 8.2/1 at the moment, Units won +39. (this is my worst scenario as often I would have walked after 10 wins then my profit would be double this) I play H/L at all the working tables (between 4 and 6 open at a time) then after the first circuit around I then play Odd/Evens, then the next circuit I play H/L etc.
I sometimes play between 40 and 50 sessions continuously over 2 to 5 hours. 

[amk]

Hello Midnight Player,

Thank you very much for your posts........ lots to think about.......

Didn't think this test method would go any further......

Amazing that you recorded spins for two tables...........

My feeling is that it has to be very unlikely that two tables are spinning the same results at the same time.....

But I how to use this to our advantage?

Only tests and time will tell............

[amk]

If I understand correctly Midnight Player, you look at your LEADING TABLE spin..... If this is a H then you bet that H won't repeat on your table?........

Sounds good.......

Have to look into different options and test........

You can test by using two LIVE WHEEL recording sheets of 400 spins....

Chose one as your LEADING TABLE........

[Midnight Player]

Hi AMK, I did a test on 17/4/2011 at Dublinbet where I compared table one against table two, I recorded 119 spins on both, comparing H/L's and there were 62 spins where they were different ie opposite and 2 x zeros and 55 spins the same.... shows a + 7 excluding the 2 x zero's This is a small sample, but the potential is there and also it seems to even out over a small spin sample of 119 spins so if one was looking to flat bet for a few units profit all one does is wait till the rollercoaster peaks at say 3 units at say max bet then walk away....