Stepping Up

[GLC]

I just attended a seminar about men "stepping up" and being men in their families, businesses, cities and yes even the world.  The main emphasis was on being men of high moral character and assuming the responsibilities of life. 


It sounded like an excellent title for this bet progression since it involves "stepping up".  Of course all bet progressions involves "stepping up".  Oh well, on with the show.


Here's the progression:


If lose       Bet         # of times to bet


-1           1                              1
-4           1-2                           1
-11         1-2-4                        4
-26         1-2-4-8                    11
-57         1-2-4-8-16               26
-120       1-2-4-8-16-32          57
-247       1-2-4-8-16-32-64     120


If we win the "# of times to bet" we will be even and can reset back to the beginning.


Please note that the number of times to bet will be determined by how many times we win a unit before we have to move to the next betting level.


If we're down 4 units and move to the 1-2-4 level and win 2 times before we lose all 3 bets, we will only be down 9 units instead of 11 which will reduce the number of times we have to win at the next level.




So here's a verbal description of how it's played.


Use your own even chance bet selection method. 


Bet 1 unit as long as you are winning. 


Once you lose you move down to the next level of 1-2.  Since we win 1 unit every time we win and we just lost 1 unit, obviously all we have to do is win 1 time betting 1-2 to recover our lost unit and can drop back to the 1st level. 


If win on the 1 of the 1-2, then we have recovered.  If we lose on the 1, we bet 2.  A win at 2 recovers fully and we re-set.


If we lose on the 1-2 before recovering we will be down 4 units and must move to the next level of 1-2-4.  etc....


It's obvious that the reasoning behind the progression is that at each level we increase the number of "bets in a row" we have to lose before losing our attack.  With a little luck, we will move into a series of spins with enough wins to recover previous losses.


There are options.  One being that we can reduce the number of times we have to win at a level to only the number of units lost in the previous level and then drop back 1 level.  This would be a D'Alembert type movement up and down the progression line.


This is obviously safer since it reduces the number wins required at higher levels.


It's always a risk vs reward decision.


You don't need to lose the entire progression before taking a loss.  You can stop at 1-2-4-8.  A loss here will be 26 units or less.  The "less" because any wins at a level before a full loss decreases the number of units needed to be recovered at higher levels.


By the same token, you can also go much further with the martys.  I stopped at a 7 step martingale, but you can go to 8, 9 or whatever.


Remember, with these progressions all they are for is to give us more opportunity to stay in the game until we have a winning streak sufficient to put us on top.  Most of our sessions will be played in only the 1st 3 levels.  The additional levels are for back-up.

Back-up involves risk.


It goes without saying that if you like this betting idea, it can be adapted to any bet location on the table. 


For dozens it would look like this:


1
1
1-2
1-2-3
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-6
1-2-3-4-6-9
etc...


Hope this idea can be useful to some of you.


GLC

[VLS]

Thanks for sharing this with us dear George.

Remember, with these progressions all they are for is to give us more opportunity to stay in the game until we have a winning streak sufficient to put us on top.

This is the Spirit/Gist of the ATILA progression.

The "flagship player" of the progression (ATILA) always affirms you don't need to guess what will be next.

He is of the opinion the game already provides you  with enough hits, "built-in".

Worked for him it seems.

[TwoCatSam]

George

Good idea.

Thanks.

Sam

[GLC]

George

Good idea.

Thanks.

Sam

Sam,  I have to say that this is still pretty risky.  I remember that I posted it a while back under a different system and nobody was impressed.  For some reason it keeps percolating to the top in my thinking.  I don't know if that's a premonition of good things or just too much coffee.

[TwoCatSam]

Hey, George!

Yes, that happens to me, too.  Just can't seem to put an idea to bed for keeps.  Bury them in the back yard; they're at the back door next morning.

I think it's a good thing.

Among a hundred other things, I'm hot on this "Boffin's Bet" that MOP posted.

Sam

[GLC]

I've always been a fan of the moffins bet.

One of my favorite uses of it is a system that was designed to be played on Blackjack call The Star system.  It can be played on Roulette also.  I have tweaked the progression to make it a little less aggressive and had decent luck testing it.  As a matter of fact, I have never lost the 2nd recovery session.  In other words, using a less aggressive bet progression and allowing enough bankroll for the 2 recovery sessions, I have never lost testing The Star.

There's a lot of interest in ways to play it on some of the baccarat forums also.  It has a lot of followers, so it must have some merit.  Tomla021 has a friend who says he is a definite long term winner playing it.

I haven't played it for real money because the 2nd recovery bets get pretty high and I can't play it on my airball machine because I hit the max  way before the end of the 2nd recovery progression ends.

GLC

[GLC]

I was going to keep this progression for myself, but since I started talking about The Star system, my magnanimous half has risen to the fore.

You can count your lucky Star.  Yuk, yuk.  Get it?

The original Star system was 1-1-1-2/5-10-15-25-40; 2-2-2-4/10-20-30-50-80;  6-6-6-12/30-60-90-150-240

That represents the base bet, recovery 1 and recovery 2 for a total of 900 units.

Our brother Carsch came up with an ingenious bet method.

1  Repeat
1  Parlay
2  Repeat
2  Parlay
4  Repeat
4  Parlay
8  Repeat
8  Parlay
16  Repeat
16  Parlay

2-2-4-4-8-8-16-16-32-32;  6-6-12-12-24-24-48-48-96-96 

558 units.

Here's my tweak to represent -999 units fashioned after Flatino's 1000 unit bankroll requirements.

1  Repeat
1  Parlay
1  Repeat, Parlay
2  Repeat
2  Parlay
2  Repeat, Parlay
5  Repeat
5  Parlay
5  Repeat, Parlay
13  Repeat
13  Parlay
13  Repeat, Parlay
32  Repeat
32  Parlay
32  Repeat, Parlay
80  Repeat
80  Parlay
80  Repeat, Parlay
200  Repeat
200  Parlay
200  Repeat, Parlay

That's 999 units if you lose it all. 
Any win leaves you at a new profit.
Of course you could eliminate the last 3 bets and save yourself 600 units of bank roll.

Very few of you will be interested in this, so I'll just give a short example to firm up your understanding.

Original Start the 1-1-1-2 represents what he calls a pre-progression and is played as parlays.  The 5-10-15-25-40 are repeated, so you must win 2 times in a row to win.

Carsch's are either repeats or parlays.

So at the 4 level you would bet 4 twice for a win of +8-.  A win would net you +2 units.  The next 4 bet is a parlay so you would bet 4 and then parlay the 8 units.  This also nets you +2
Every double win in Carsh's basic bet nets you +2 units.

My tweak starts out just like Carsch's except that I add another step of repeat, parlay.

So at the 2 level you bet 2 and then repeat for +4.  If you lose you go to the next 2 which is a parlay.  2 wins 2 more for 4.  Parlay the 4 for 8.  If you lose this level go to the final 2 level.

2 wins 2, repeat wins 2 more for 4, parlay the 4 for +8 -7 (previous losses) = +1.

Every double win or the triple win nets you +1.  (except on 13; 13; 13 which nets you +2)

Okay, I can see that everybody's eyes glassed over at the original Star progression so I post this for posterity and so I know where to find it in the future.  I just hope this forum stays intact.  It has all my roulette notes on it.

GLC

[GLC]

One other note to myself:

We can stay at the 1-1-1-2-2-2-5-5-5-13-13-13 for 63 units on the base level.

If we lose we can play 2-2-2-4-4-4-10-10-10-26-26-26 for 126 units in recovery 1 level.

If we lose we can play 6-6-6-12-12-12-30-30-30-78-78-78 for 378 units in recovery 2 level.

That's 567 units if we lose all 3 levels.

Cheers,

GLC