The Power of Fibonacci

[GLC]

I'm must begin by apologizing for all these silly progressions I post.  I've heard a 100 times that you can't beat the game with a progression.  I guess I just can't accept reality.

Oh well, here's a fantasy progression.

This is played on even chances.

We're going to bet our bet amounts per the fibonacci progression.  We must either win or lose the corresponding fibonacci number of times.

If lose          Bet size          Fibo #      If Win
-1                      1                   1               +1
-3                      2                   1               +1
-9                      3                   2               +3
-21                    4                   3               +3
-46                    5                   5               +4
-94                    6                   8               +2
-198                  8                   13             +10
-408                  10                 21             +12
-816                  12                 34                0

We play this by betting the unit amount until we are either ahead by the fibo number of wins or behind by the fibo number of losses.

So we start by betting 1 unit until we are either ahead by 1 win or behind by 1 loss.
If we win, we repeat.
If we lose we go to 2 unit bets and must either win by 1 bet or lose by 1 bet.
If we win, we reset to 1.
If we lose we go to 3 unit bets and must either win by 2 bets or lose by 2 bets.
If we lose we go to 4 unit bets and must either win by 3 bets or lose by 3 bets.
Etc...

As you can see, one of the best aspects of it is that the bets are small enough to keep us from having heart palpatations to make any of them.

I will say that if you can almost win with your bet selection method on a flat bet, this progression just might take you beyond losing into winning territory.

You have to have the patience of Noah* to play it, but if you do, it can be rewarding.

*I say Noah because God told him that it was going to rain for forty days and forty nights.  He told Noah to build an Ark made of gopher wood.  It took Noah 120 years to build the ark.  Now that's patience.

For those who seek every option for conservatism, if you find yourself close to back to even and you are betting larger unit sizes, drop back to lower levels to keep bets smaller.  This is a conscious decision you must on your own.

[GLC]

Here's an excellent even chance bet selection method.

Look at the last 3 spins and bet on the even chance that has hit twice or all 3 times.

If you lose 3 times in a row, switch to betting on the even chance that has won only  1 time in the last 3 spins.

When you lose 2 times betting this way, switch back to betting the even chance that has hit 2 or 3 times.

Cheers

[catalyst]

George
this is a nice concept and i am thinking it to add it with my already modified fibo for a further strength.
thanks.
catalyst

[GLC]

The original post is very conservative.  The weakness is that it represents an equal number of wins as losses.  Since we know that we will have more losses than wins because of the zero, we aren't giving ourselves much of an opportunity to win more on our wins than we lose on our losses.


Here's a more aggressive line that's based on my idea of win 2 or lose 3


If lose        Bet amount         Amt W/L     If Win


-1                      1                  W1 or L1       +1
-3                      2                  W1 or L1       +1
-7                      4                  W1 or L1       +1
-19                    4                  W2 or L3       +1
-47                    7                  W3 or L4       +2
-107                  12                W4 or L5       +1
-239                  22                W5 or L6       +3
-519                  40                W6 or L7       +1
-1119                75                W7 or L8       +6


Enjoy playing this for dimes or quarters. 


GLC 

[GLC]

The original post is very conservative.  The weakness is that it represents an equal number of wins as losses.  Since we know that we will have more losses than wins because of the zero, we aren't giving ourselves much of an opportunity to win more on our wins than we lose on our losses.


Here's a more aggressive line that's based on my idea of win 2 or lose 3


If lose        Bet amount         Amt W/L     If Win


-1                      1                  W1 or L1       +1
-3                      2                  W1 or L1       +1
-7                      4                  W1 or L1       +1
-19                    4                  W2 or L3       +1
-47                    7                  W3 or L4       +2
-107                  12                W4 or L5       +1
-239                  22                W5 or L6       +3
-519                  40                W6 or L7       +1
-1119                75                W7 or L8       +6


Enjoy playing this for dimes or quarters. 


GLC

Here's the logic behind this progression line.

It begins with a 3 step capped martingale that wins 1 unit on each win.  At least 70 percent of won units should come from these 3 bets.  Then we start increasing our bet sizes.  We bet 4 units in the 4th level and we must win 2 more times than we lose to fully recover or we must lose 3 more times than we win before we have to move to the next level.

The next level is 7 units.  We must win 3 more times than we lose to fully recover or we must lose 4 more times than we win before we move to the next level.  Etc...

The fact that we have to lose more times than we win before moving to a larger bet serves the purpose of giving us a chance to win without having to win more bets than we lose.  In the long run we know that's a losing proposition.  If we can recover winning fewer bets than we lose, then we have a fighting chance to win.

That's my logic.  Agree or disagree.

George

[Steve]

The Fibonacci sequence has no place in betting progression. See about 3/4 of the way down link:://:.genuinewinner.com/c/energy.html

Basically for infinite compression, (fyi gravity = compression waves and is an effect, not a force), energy must follow only a specific path, which is the golden spiral. The Fibonacci sequence is a mathematical expression of the energy compression, ie a wave within a wave within a wave etc.. And each time the recursive fractal repeats, the sum of the last two is added. That's the number sequence.

But it has no place in betting progression at all.

[GLC]

Dear Steve,


To say that Fibonacci has no place in betting progressions is personal opinion and should be qualified as such.  Like this, "It is my personal opinion that the Fibonacci progression has no place in betting progressions."


And, I might ask "If Fibonacci has no place in betting progressions, does that mean martingale, D'Alembert, Labourchere, etc... don't either?"


If I'm playing a 5 step capped martingale, as long as I don't lose 5 bets in a row, I am winning 1 unit for every win.  Once I lose the 5th step, I take the loss and start over.


If I'm playing a Fibonacci type progression, every time I win 2 bets in a row I am ahead 1 unit and I reset.  If I limit my progression to 1-1-2-3-5-8-13 and failing to win 2 times in a row, I take the loss and reset.  That's the bet method.


Okay, let's not call it Fibonacci.  Let's call it "1-1-2-3-5-8-13 double win bet progression".  A little cumbersome but pretty clear.

[TwoCatSam]

George

When you say.....win two bets in a row...........say it's 3, 5.  Do you bet 3 and then the next bet is 5.......or do you let the three ride?  3 goes to 6 goes to 12 -3 = 9.

Sam

[GLC]

George

When you say.....win two bets in a row...........say it's 3, 5.  Do you bet 3 and then the next bet is 5.......or do you let the three ride?  3 goes to 6 goes to 12 -3 = 9.

Sam

Sam,  In the 1-1-2-3-5-8-13 double win bet progression,  anytime you have a series of losses followed by a win, you drop back 1 step and if you win that bet you will be +1 unit.

Example:  Let's say we lost 5 in a row.  That's the 1-1-2-3-5 for a -12 units.  If we win the 8 unit bet -12+8=-4.  Now we drop back to the 5 unit bet and if we win it, we have -4+5=+1.  Things get a little hairy when you win the 8 and then lose the 5.

If I win and then lose the drop-back bet, I just play the bet I just lost again and continue down the line if I lose again.

If you don't like starting with 1-1-2-3 you can shorten it to 1-2-3-5-8.


Play around with it and you'll see how it works.

By the way, Steve is right in discouraging folks from using this progression without a cap on it.  It's only somewhat safer than a martingale if you don't limit the number of steps you are willing to lose before throwing in the towel.

GLC