Do you want to win or invent the winning method?

[TwoCatSam]

Greetings!

Nathan Detroit said something on the other forum that got me thinking.

Show of hands.......how many want to win actual money and how many want to invent the method they use to win actual money?  Bluntly said, how many are willing to "coat-tail" it and win with FLAT's method, the G.U.T., Nick's Excel, JL's "Win a Gazillion" or whatever?

Or do you want to clean house with your own broom?

For the last several days I have won Euros and not one with an idea of mine.  I even won with that "Boffin's" thing.  (It ain't half bad!)  So I have to ask myself am I willing to admit these other folks are smarter than I and that I am making money off their ideas?  Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!

It would be egotistically gratifying to design one's own system and win with it.  My hat's off to those who do.  But now my wife loves it when I sit down and the computer and win 50 Euro.  Don't care who gets the credit--I get the money and her blessing.  What more could a bloke want?

So with all the non-Americans on this forum, why are there no screen shots of winnings, no movies, no bragging?

Geez, guys I can't do all the bragging or the sin of hubris will kick in and I'm toast!!

(humble is the word of the day, Sam.)

TwoCat

[dino246]

Hi Sam.
I am well up this year thanks to all the VERTICAL-MATRIX systems on THIS forum.
Soon i want to take these systems into London ( i joined 7 in one night way back in 2000 ).
I have just found a train ( Mega-bus ) which can get me there for £ 5.00 or £ 10.00 Return !!!
if i decide to hit as many casinos as i can from say....9pm to 5pm overnight.
At the last count London has around 23 casinos of which maybe 17 where you can just walk in,but ONLY one gives out FREE food !!
I am working on a journey plan as i scribble this.

Kind Regards.
Dino.

[Tamino]

Sam,

What  was it what Nathan Detroit on the other board said what made you thinking?

Thanks.


Tamino

[TwoCatSam]

***No matter how  well anyone  teaches a method nobody will pay any attention and still do their thing. To top itoff they think  the  martingale is the next best thing to sex. ****



By ND

He is a hard man!

Sam

[jarabo002]

Apparently but I am sure that it takes much more than a system to win at least indefinitely.


We all know people who have won a lot during days with the same system and have gone to lose everything in a few hours, even people who have won over the years and lost everything in one night without change strategy. This can happen to any of us, has happened to me several times.


Thanks for sharing to those who make their contributions and congratulations to those who constantly win!

[Tamino]

**********We all know people who have won a lot during days with the same system and have gone to lose everything in a few hours, even people who have won over the years and lost everything in one night without change strategy. This can happen to any of us, has happened to me several times. **********

Those people  are referred to as dorks.


It is  apparent that one  does not win all the time  but when one  wins  it requires
discipline not to lose it again. That`s  the badge of a true  winner.

Ninety percent of the people who enter a casino are ahead  at one time  or another but 70% of those  give it all  (or even  more) back.

Tamino

[Turner]

I dont think anyones ideas are their own. There will of been a time when we didnt know roulette, we didnt guess to get where we are now...we read and copy others. None of our ideas are original.

[Ralph]

Most is tweaks of hundred years methods. People have allways looked for winning methods.
You can win using it, but the method itself is dependet of a random outcome.

Still our brains are shaped to see far more than there are.

[Turner]

Spot on Ralph. The clever ones realise they are doing it and stop.

[jarabo002]

Someone who loses after winning roulette does not have to be a dork, because then we would have been at some point all of us, or is that someone born a winner?, Just may be someone who is in the process of learning the method of trial and error, which seeks its limits and still does not control. Just that.


Roulette is a game based on randomness and that we can not foresee or control, unfortunately.


Through the continuous failure is how we learn the people that have not born as geniuses. One of the greatest geniuses of history didn't get to beat roulette and I don't believe that, after building so many writings, formulas and theories, he were a dork.

[TwoCatSam]

Don't know if'n I'm a dork, but I've sure given it back.

There is something--don't know what it is--that develops in a person that says "get out" or "keep on".

"You got to know when to hold 'em.......know when to fold 'em."

He doesn't tell you how....he says you got know how.

Sam

[Tamino]

Sam,

It`s so simple  to know when to get away from a table:

Three losses in a row and it is time  to go.

You have  reached  a pre-determined Loss Limit.

After you have reached  your win goal but not your  win limit you  switch to the  Guarantee and Excess method.  With the FIRST loss at this  stage you leave.

GUARANTEE :you guarantee yourself  your pre-set  win  goal , pocket it  with the original bankroll  and keep playing with the EXCESS  until the first loss.

THIS IS YOUR WINNING METHOD .

NO SWEAT-----------JUST DISCIPLINE !

Greed kills a bankroll.

Tamino

[Ralph]

Stop while ahead is just bookkeeping, to be ahead to next time. I see it similar but not exactly, play as long you win, you can get a window of luck, and you shall try to use it. You can stop, sometimes just for a few spins and be on the track again. Starting carefully, AND do not stick to a method if it shows weakness that time you play. You cannot know the outcome, but feel when something is not so good. Any methods can be worthless  according to the outcomes from the wheel.

Better recover using an other method, than stick to something seem to not have the day.
Sometimes it is not bad to take a loss, and recover an other time, bad days we all meet,
and then let it harm as little you can. No problem take a minor loss.

Chasing losses destroy many bankrolls.

Not easy to do, the game is not easy.

[TwoCatSam]

Tamino

If I quit after three losses, I'd never win a skin!

Ralph

How far ahead?  One win?  Hmmmmmmm I only bet one Euro.

Sam

[Ralph]

Tamino

If I quit after three losses, I'd never win a skin!

Ralph

How far ahead?  One win?  Hmmmmmmm I only bet one Euro.

Sam

Still ahead, bet just with 0.01, and got yesterday total 15 Euro, all play testing things.