New consept that has never being seen before that may produce a flat EC winner

[Shadowman]

Thanks for the link Malcop

[Master_of_pockets]

Is there any more interest on this topic?
Anyone testing-thinking?

[TwoCatSam]

Master

I have to tell you, this is over my head.  I'm going on vacation soon and I will print it out and muddle over it.

Sam

[F_LAT_INO]

--Are you camping Sam and travelling around.....nice if so.

[Tomla021]

The topic is great I just need to understand it.

[malcop]

I found the best way to understand this concept is to take baby steps.

So first of all just forget and trying to get bet selections, just concentrate on updating the events after each spin, maybe for practice just use 6 Events or maybe just 3, once you can update the events after each spin with confidance, then get to work on getting a bet direction after you have updated the events after each spin.

Once you have got  the bare bones of this method, then you can starter to play around with it, like is it better to use Z=scores, or just use the diffrence betweend the counts(dots).

Remember this is not a system, it is a concept that can be applied in many ways how many is upto you, if you want a ready made system then this is not for you, but if you want something fresh, that with a bit of imagination used in multiple ways then this could be for you.

When I first started on this project for MOP I could not get my head around it, it took me a few days for the idea to sink in, but once it did it was a bit like a light bulb going on in my head.

I have already said in previous posts how I want to move forwared with this concept, just to see where it goes, hopefully you will have in time your own ideas.

Wether there is a lot of intrest in this thread or not, I will still be looking to see if I can exploit the concept.

A lot of you guys know me, and I'm on Skype need help just ask.

Thanks

malcop

[Turner]

I found the best way to understand this concept is to take baby steps.

So first of all just forget and trying to get bet selections, just concentrate on updating the events after each spin, maybe for practice just use 6 Events or maybe just 3, once you can update the events after each spin with confidance, then get to work on getting a bet direction after you have updated the events after each spin.

Once you have got  the bare bones of this method, then you can starter to play around with it, like is it better to use Z=scores, or just use the diffrence betweend the counts(dots).

Remember this is not a system, it is a concept that can be applied in many ways how many is upto you, if you want a ready made system then this is not for you, but if you want something fresh, that with a bit of imagination used in multiple ways then this could be for you.

When I first started on this project for MOP I could not get my head around it, it took me a few days for the idea to sink in, but once it did it was a bit like a light bulb going on in my head.

I have already said in previous posts how I want to move forwared with this concept, just to see where it goes, hopefully you will have in time your own ideas.

Wether there is a lot of intrest in this thread or not, I will still be looking to see if I can exploit the concept.

A lot of you guys know me, and I'm on Skype need help just ask.

Thanks

malcop

Thats nice words....put nicely Malcop....
I think I might be too stupid to get this...but Im gonna try..

[malcop]

Hi turnerfeck,

I think you can do it, maybe just use one event, then two, three, four etc.

One thing the number of events you use determins how many spins you need before you can start tracking and updating the events.

So if you use two events, you need three spins and so on.

Just break it down into very small peices.

Thanks

malcop

[Turner]

Hi turnerfeck,

I think you can do it, maybe just use one event, then two, three, four etc.

One thing the number of events you use determins how many spins you need before you can start tracking and updating the events.

So if you use two events, you need three spins and so on.

Just break it down into very small peices.

Thanks

malcop

Ok...Im gonna come clean here.....
My radar is going off....and Ill explain what I mean.
I get a feel for something is good...and a feel for something is leading to something....not neccessarily bad...but Im being groomed for something.

Its the way the first download is written....like its a preamble to something else....

MOPs completly changed character recently....hes gone all nice and understanding. thats twitching my radar too.

Statement......if I am way out....I totally apologise to you both but I cant help taking notice when the radar needle twitches. its served me very well with great accuracy for 50 years.

[Master_of_pockets]

"""Remember this is not a system, it is a concept that can be applied in many ways how many is upto you, if you want a ready made system then this is not for you, but if you want something fresh, that with a bit of imagination used in multiple ways then this could be for you."""

This is exactly what I have posted 3-4 times in this thread before and after Malcop posted the explanation.

It s a very simple thing....If I would have a person here with me and show him with pen and papper he would understand this tracking of the Ecs(Runs and Changes) in just 1 minute.
The problem is that we are all far away and with words we are trying to explain what we mean.

In order to help you I will just say that :

We are taaking the Last spin spun and we are compairing with the Privious spins(Ecs only)

Eg.
Last spin                                31
2nd spin before(penultimate)   32
3d spin before                         2

so we are taking the Last spin 31 and we compare with the spin before(penultimate).
31= Black , 32= Red ...SO its a CHANGE
Next we are taking also the last spin 31 and we compare it with the 3d spin before
31=Black ,2=Black...So its a RUN

ITS REALY THAT SIMPLE

we do this in every spin for lets say 6 spins results....
On every new spin we are doing the same procces...
And after some spins we wll have something like this(every comparing I name it EVENT). So if we have 6 spins we are having 5 events.(because the last spin will always be the spin that we compare with the rest spins(privious ones)

    1Event                2Event            3 Event                4Event                  5Event     
Runs - Changes    Runs - Changes  Runs - Changes     Runs - Changes     Runs - Changes
  X          X             X           X          X                                      X             X           X
  X                         X           X          X                                      X             X           X
  X                                      X          X                                      X                          X
  X                                                  X                                      X
                                                      X                                      X

This above is a example graph (result) of 5 events .....
In every new spin we are updaing the Runs and the Changes on each event....

I think this post was a great help for making u understand how we are recording

[superman]

If you could add the resulting numbers to the above that would help more, I'm guessing the row of xs' down the page is
spin 1
spin 2
spin 3
etc etc

EDIT, After looking at it again, is it

spin 1        spin 2            spin 3          etc

I'm interested too.

[Master_of_pockets]

"""MOPs completly changed character recently....he's gone all nice and understanding. that's twitching my radar too."""

turnerfeck I will tell you something now and please don't get it wrong...my intention is not to insult you.Its just make something clear to you....(if u won t understand I don't care at all)
You have attacked me a lot of times in the past and all the times was without any reason...so MY opinion is that your radar was always off ...at least with my case.

I was never bad in the forum....The only thing that may be seemed bad is that I couldn t stand reading topics/posts that were including same old losing systems and GFs.
So I was always telling in my posts to move forward and get over the old BS because they were proven losers....
Now I learned that some people will never change...because they don't want or because theor minds can t understand the maths,the odds,the common sense....

So from this learning I stopped trying to tell what is right and what is wrong(according to maths/statistics) to those kind of people because it was only a waste of time...

This is the reason why as you say I am good these days...
But it s not about being good....its a about stop caring to update the forum by explaining to some members(that are deep in the GF) what isn t working....

I would like not to chat this anymore...now I am calm or I don't care about explaining the Gfs to some members and i no longer make fights....(the fights I was making wasn t with intetntion...they just were the result of explaining what is correct)

[Master_of_pockets]

Superman we are always comparing the Last spin spun(more recent) with the previous ones....

If we make the comparing for 4 spins we have 3 events
If we do it for 5 spins we have 4 events etc.

The explanation of this tracking has 2 steps..

the 1st step is the recording(the thing I posted above)
and the 2nd step is to understand HOW the events are alighned with the same bet

I would like most of you understand the 1st step and then we will move forward to the 2nd

[superman]

I would like most of you understand the 1st step and then we will move forward to the 2nd

Then add the numbers to your above post so there is no question as to how you got the Xs
Add numbers to the events so we can cross reference the X markings, currently there's no clue to how you marked your table.

1Event = ?               2Event     = ?       3 Event        = ?        4Event         = ?         5Event   = ?

[Master_of_pockets]

I have already given an example...I can t find any reason to do it again.


Here is the example I have already posted above:

e.g..
Last spin                                31
2nd spin before(penultimate)   32
3d spin before                         2

so we are taking the Last spin 31 and we compare with the spin before(penultimate).
31= Black , 32= Red ...SO its a CHANGE
Next we are taking also the last spin 31 and we compare it with the 3d spin before
31=Black ,2=Black...So its a RUN

event 1                event 2
Run -change       Run -Change
          X              X

And so on.........