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Unlikley streaks

Started by Ralph, Sep 17, 03:54 AM 2012

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Ralph

RBRR RRRR BBR  BRR BB BRBB BRBB   BRBB RRR BBB B   R BBBB BB BBB   BBB B BBB BBB BB RRR R

This is as unlikely as all were BLACK, A sharp eye will see this sticks out even more than all were BLACK. Should it pass a random test?
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Stepkevh

i think it does because i think the "random test" counts for the numbers and not for ec's.

its normal that in a certain string there are more ec's then other, they will catch up sooner / later or slowly / fast.... who knows :-)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Ralph

Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 17, 04:11 AM 2012
i think it does because i think the "random test" counts for the numbers and not for ECs.

its normal that in a certain string there are more ECs then other, they will catch up sooner / later or slowly / fast.... who knows :-)

please have a closer look, this string is NOT random. 30 Black is more likley.

Random outcome has high entropy, this has low.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Stepkevh

Why should 30 be more likely in a string of 60 spins ?

Thats 50%

The string you show has 40 blacks in 60 spins...
That nothing uncommon.

In percentages i have seen in 100 spins an EC go below 20%, short after that it catches up.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Ralph

Look at the pattern, its very low entropy, meaning it carry information, which a random string very unlikley do, one in billions may be.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Drazen

Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 04:30 AM 2012
Look at the pattern, its very low entropy, meaning it carry information, which a random string very unlikley do, one in billions may be.

In one way this is perfectly normal distribution... If we observe it through law of singles and series, every single has value of 0 and serie value of 1, no matter how long it is..

So lets calcualte STD, but first lets group it right then. That sequence of yours should look like this then:

R B RRRR BB R B RR BBB R BBB R BBB R BB RRR BBBB R BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB RRRR

So we have 11 series and 8 singles

First you have to get the Absolute Std when you calculate.

Then you take 11-8 = 3

Now we want to get the statistical std so we continue with...

11 + 8 = 19

Now we take the sqr of 19 = 4.35

And finally we divide the Absolute Std  whit the sqr

3 /(sqr 4.35)= 0.68 or -0.68 depending what/how you observe

Which is my friend normal as being black skinned in central Africa

When you reach std of 3.0 and above that means something

But on contrary i have never seen one serie long 23 values...
And I bet this isnt sequence from live wheel...


Cheers

Drazen

Ralph

Still anybody not find the hidden message! It is not random, and will hardly never be.
Should be fun to run a lot of spins looking for information.

This is a coded message.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Drazen

Quote from: Ralph on Sep 17, 06:05 AM 2012
Still anybody not find the hidden message! It is not random, and will hardly never be.
Should be fun to run a lot of spins looking for information.

This is a coded message.

Well i just decrypted that hidden message of yours, didnt I? You are the one who doesnt see message in my post my friend.. Read it again.

For me roulette is not random at all. Observing thorugh mathematical aspect like i showed you, or physical when you can predict where the ball has most chances to fall into...

And i will repeat question? From where did you get this sequence? From your head or some cheating RNG?

Cheers

Drazen


Stepkevh

Ralph,

" YO WILL LOSE THIS SESSIOT "

your string should be

rbrr rrr bbr brr bb brbb brbb brbb rrr bbb b r bbbb bb bbb bbb b bbb bbb bb rrr rb

to let it say "YOU WILL LOSE THIS SESSION"  ;)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Turner

Morse code...black is dot red is dash. Good fun ralph
Drazen...you come across very rude at times. don't know if its intentional. It wasn't an exam. It was a bit of fun
Turner

Ralph

Turnerfeck and  Stepkevh!

Yes its Morse, I learnt it a while ago during my national service, this time it was Morse and horses.

Should be fun to run a lot of spins and see if series of information, are just as likely as random.
It was an error in the code, just one, which is expected from receive, in real world, you must understand the message every time.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Stepkevh

when he said "didnt you find the hidden message" i tought directly at morsecode .

and red is dash and black dot .

yes it was fun, if roulette was decripted this way then it would be lot of fun :-)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Turner

Ralph...are you familiar with "some mothers do have em" with frank spencer(michael crawford)?

Stepkevh

it should be funny to play with your decripted morse code against a wheel and see what it brings  :twisted:
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Ralph

Change it to "I will win" then! ;D
The best way to fail, is not to try!

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