This may stands 1 million spins

[Matush77]

Parlay with progression
Wait for one virtual win, then start to bet 1,2,4 PARLAY (don't ben every spin, wait for 1st virtual win)!
After each unsuccessful attempt raise  your bet by one
example:1,2,4
               2,4,8
               3,6,12
               ....,..,...
               65,130,260
               77,154,308

CHART:
1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,16,19,22,26,30,35,41,48,56,65,77,90,105,122,146,168,184,... (depends on table limit) this one is so far for 37 attempts, but it could be even 70, i am currently working on it


This means we have 37 attempts to get Four colors in row. I REPEAT, WE HAVE 37 ATTEMPTS TO GET FOUR COLORS IN ROW IRRESPECTIVE OF AMOUNT OF SPINS. Mathematically there is 6 % chance to get four colors in row. This means we can get 4 colors in row in every 16 spins. Since we don't bet every spin and we wait for first virtual win this chance is even higher. So this system is mathematically roulette killer.

PS: hope GLC will take a look at this and maybe can improve it
PS2: i dont know how to test it, is there someone who can put it under test pls ?

[amk]

Hello matush77,


Thank you for posting this.


Could you give more examples and elaborate a little more.


How does a virtual win look?


Do we bet 1 unit then on a win bet 2 if we win this then 4 and stop?


Or on level 3     


Bet 3 units then 6 then 12 (betting with units we won?)




Just need to get a clearer picture.

[Matush77]

Hello matush77,


Thank you for posting this.


Could you give more examples and elaborate a little more.


How does a virtual win look?


Do we bet 1 unit then on a win bet 2 if we win this then 4 and stop?


Or on level 3     


Bet 3 units then 6 then 12 (betting with units we won?)




Just need to get a clearer picture.

well, its like this: we bet on RED, and our goal is Four RED in row
we wait for virtual win( it means, we don't bet every spin, but waiting for first RED)
R(1st red) no bet
B 1(our first bet, in this case unsuccessful)
B no bet
R (1st virtual win) no bet
R 1
R 2
B 4 (unsuccessful)
B no bet
R (1st virtual win) no bet
B 1
R (1st virtual win) no bet
R 1
R 2
R 4 - DONE

in this case we had 3 unsuccessful attempts, on fourth it worked out
for example on 8 unsuccessful attempt our parlay will be 2,then 4, then 8 ( because chart is 1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3.......)

Since this is parlay, we always bet casino money, and lose only first bet in parlay progression (ex. 1,2,4
2,4,8)

[GLC]

Matush77,

I have looked at you idea before.  It's a very good idea and only rarely will you not have 4 Reds or Blacks in a row before reaching the end of your bet line.

Please not that you can play either R or B.  There's no reason to skip Blacks.  The 1st Red or the 1st Black starts a possible 4 colors in a row.

Please see the following idea I posted a while back and let me know what you think about it:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6499.msg61511#msg61511

The link takes you to a post about 3/4 of the way through the topic.  I suggest that you go to the top and read the whole topic.


GLC

[Robeenhuut]

Matush

I suggest you go to actual spins section and look at 185 spins sessions from Smartlive Casino.  It can go 40+  attempts often enough and i saw 54. I posted also similar idea before for repeats of 4. Unfortunately its not workable. For 44 attempts you would need 2000u BR.

[Matush77]

Matush77,

I have looked at you idea before.  It's a very good idea and only rarely will you not have 4 Reds or Blacks in a row before reaching the end of your bet line.

Please not that you can play either R or B.  There's no reason to skip Blacks.  The 1st Red or the 1st Black starts a possible 4 colors in a row.

Please see the following idea I posted a while back and let me know what you think about it:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6499.msg61511#msg61511

The link takes you to a post about 3/4 of the way through the topic.  I suggest that you go to the top and read the whole topic.


GLC

Nice topic , i need to take a deeper look on it
GLC, there is reason why we bet only one color.Because we can stand short-term deviation.
If you take a look at most of the MM systems they are long term winners. Problem is short-term(RUN FROM HELL).This waiting for virtual can stand RFH.

[Robeenhuut]

Nice topic , i need to take a deeper look on it
GLC, there is reason why we bet only one color.Because we can stand short-term deviation.
If you take a look at most of the MM systems they are long term winners. Problem is short-term(RUN FROM HELL).This waiting for virtual can stand RFH.

So in your opinion betting on only one color can eliminate short term deviation?  And what do you mean by most MM systems being long term winners?   

[Matush77]

Yes, one color is better, because you can have 100 spins of chops just like BBRBRRBRRBB.... but when you wait for one color ,number of attempts is only half amount.
For example i had 112 spins without 4 RED in row, but it represented only 35 attempts. Imagine you need to bet twice as much (70)attempts in 100 spins... no way. This is what we need to survive, short-term (20-200 ) spins which are out of normal. Because take a sample of one million spins. RED should be somewhere around of 47,5%. But take a look on sample of 100 or 200 spins. RED might be only 10% of this sample. So if you can survive enough of 100,200 spins which are out of normal, you're winner in long term.

[GLC]

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3689.0

M77,  the above link takes you to the 1st copy of 185 actual spins.  You can see that there were 4 times that Red hit 4 or more times in a row.  There were also 6 times that black hit 4 times or more in a row.

So we don't have to wait so long between bets, why shouldn't we have 2 banks and act like 2 different people are playing?  One plays the blacks and one plays the reds.  It's as if you and I sat down and played this system.  You play the Reds and I play the Blacks.

If the system works long term, we should both win.  Since it's so easy, one of us could play both hands since we will never bet at the same time.

Also, there's nothing sacred about Red/Black.  We could play all 6 e.c.s at the same time.  It just takes more concentration and 6 separate banks.

Where am I going wrong in this thinking?

[Matush77]

you are right GLC. You just need double bankroll Also you can play both at one time, just play them separately, dont chase win color.
But I believe required BR for this MM is 10 000 units. Yes ten thousand units. Imagine you need two of them :)I will improve my progression chart to get at least 60, maybe 70 attempts.

But on Betvoyager is  it only 100 dollars to play 0.01 chips. EASY.

NOTE: the spins in actual casino are not RUN FROM HELL, we need to survive RUN FROM HELL.

[GLC]

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7052.0

I got side tracked while on this system.  I only played it about 10 times, but I never lost playing it.

GLC

[Robeenhuut]

Yes, one color is better, because you can have 100 spins of chops just like BBRBRRBRRBB.... but when you wait for one color ,number of attempts is only half amount.
For example i had 112 spins without 4 RED in row, but it represented only 35 attempts. Imagine you need to bet twice as much (70)attempts in 100 spins... no way. This is what we need to survive, short-term (20-200 ) spins which are out of normal. Because take a sample of one million spins. RED should be somewhere around of 47,5%. But take a look on sample of 100 or 200 spins. RED might be only 10% of this sample. So if you can survive enough of 100,200 spins which are out of normal, you're winner in long term.

Believe me that you will get enough spins without 4 Red's or Black's in a row. It does not really matter what was the longest streak you have ever seen. Losing 3 EC bets in a row can go on for a while. What makes you think that you will never lose 70 attempts?  It would take bit more than 10000 games on average. Never say no way in roulette 

[Johnlegend]

Believe me that you will get enough spins without 4 Red's or Black's in a row. It does not really matter what was the longest streak you have ever seen. Losing 3 EC bets in a row can go on for a while. What makes you think that you will never lose 70 attempts?  It would take bit more than 10000 games on average. Never say no way in roulette 

I am 100% with Matt on this. I have seen too many doubles and trebles in a row on the colours. Its a dangerous idea. You might start off well. But get a run like I saw the other day. Where red didn't show a quartet for over 100 spins and your nerve and BR will be tested to the maximum.

[Matush77]

Well like i said i had the other day series of 112 without four REDs in row. The next four spins were four RED. It was 35 attempts for me.
    I am not saying that this is perfect, I just think if you can stand a game for 100-200 spins, you can win long term because this short-term session about 200 spins out of normal is what makes roulette such hard to beat. Because 4 EC in row is 1/16 chance. I just can't believe there will be no 4 REDs in 100-200 spins.
    Anyway, I have no proof, but you get my point, my idea is to stand short-term deviation long enough. Is there someone who knows how to test it please ? Result might be very interesting...

[Robeenhuut]

Well like i said i had the other day series of 112 without four REDs in row. The next four spins were four RED. It was 35 attempts for me.
    I am not saying that this is perfect, I just think if you can stand a game for 100-200 spins, you can win long term because this short-term session about 200 spins out of normal is what makes roulette such hard to beat. Because 4 EC in row is 1/16 chance. I just can't believe there will be no 4 REDs in 100-200 spins.
    Anyway, I have no proof, but you get my point, my idea is to stand short-term deviation long enough. Is there someone who knows how to test it please ? Result might be very interesting...

Get RX, put auto spin on 200 spins and you will find out.