*****FIVE*****

[TwoCatSam]

To clear up something, I never PMed anyone but Victor.

I'll not mention the bot again unless I want to hire Superman to make me one exclusively.

Sam

[superman]

I'll not mention the bot again unless I want to hire Superman to make me one exclusively

Anyone is welcome to contact me via PM, but not with offers of chipping in to make a one size fits all bot/tool, the only time I would ever do that is if/when something is found to work grail like, which may never happen anyway.

[superman]

JL or anyone who understands the method properly, JL says after the initial 4,4 trigger, IF the next 4 gap is on the same dozen it must be seperated by a 5 or higher

4
4
5/6/7 etc
4

Just analizing the counter I made initially to see how many possible triggers there are over the spin files I have I now have a question of course, the file has produced this on the same dozen

4|4|0|2|1|5|0|5|1|2|0|4

4|4 is the initial trigger, then 10th along is the next 4, none of the other dozens produced a 4 so is this eligable as the betting trigger?

[Johnlegend]

JL or anyone who understands the method properly, JL says after the initial 4,4 trigger, IF the next 4 gap is on the same dozen it must be seperated by a 5 or higher

4
4
5/6/7 etc
4

Just analizing the counter I made initially to see how many possible triggers there are over the spin files I have I now have a question of course, the file has produced this on the same dozen

4|4|0|2|1|5|0|5|1|2|0|4

4|4 is the initial trigger, then 10th along is the next 4, none of the other dozens produced a 4 so is this eligable as the betting trigger?
[/quote)Yee Superman, a game of 5 can be played on a single dozen. So long as the GAME. TRIGGER and BET TRIGGER are separated by a 5 GAP or more. As they are in your example.

[superman]

So as long as one or more of the next gaps is greater than or equal to 5? so this wouldnt work

4|4|0|2|1|3|0|2|1|2|0|4

I'm finding different rules again JL, I think this was the initial rule

THE RULES.

1, We track the dozens until one of them produces two consecutive 4 gaps as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---This is our trigger.

2, we now continue tracking until another dozen or the same dozen produces another 4 gap. If the same dozen produces a 4 gap it must be separated from the starting trigger by a gap greater than 4 as in the example below.

DOZEN 1
6
7
4
4---Trigger
5
4--Trigger to bet.
5--Win, as it did not become another 4 gap.

But on the other *****FIVE***** thread you gave different examples without 2 consecutive 4 gaps, so which is it?

[Johnlegend]

So as long as one or more of the next gaps is greater than or equal to 5? so this wouldnt work

4|4|0|2|1|3|0|2|1|2|0|4

No anything less than 4 isn't counted. So In effect that is a TREBLE 4 GAP TRIGGER. And that is what we want for 8 ON 1.

[Johnlegend]

So as long as one or more of the next gaps is greater than or equal to 5? so this wouldnt work

4|4|0|2|1|3|0|2|1|2|0|4

I'm finding different rules again JL, I think this was the initial rule
 
But on the other *****FIVE***** thread you gave different examples without 2 consecutive 4 gaps, so which is it?

Forget the thread Superman. Id been drinking when I wrote that. A game trigger and bet trigger must be separated by a 5 Gap or more, when on the same dozen. That's it.

[Johnlegend]

No anything less than 4 isn't counted. So In effect that is a TREBLE 4 GAP TRIGGER. And that is what we want for 8 ON 1.

A pity FIVE has been passed up by everyone. Its now standing at 1,300/1 Still not anywhere near losing on BV. And even live, its not been past step 3 since the single loss. And have not had to compromise triggers to get a decent turnover.

[kevint3]

JL...

Not me..I love Five...just building bankroll to get back in the action. I actually like five better the 8 on 1 because I think five can give more betting opportunities.


KT

[Robeenhuut]

A pity FIVE has been passed up by everyone. Its now standing at 1,300/1 Still not anywhere near losing on BV. And even live, its not been past step 3 since the single loss. And have not had to compromise triggers to get a decent turnover.

My reason is not a turnover factor. I just don't think that any human being can duplicate your run of 1000+ consecutive wins or 70 of last step double dozen bets. Based on statistical probability the method that produced such stats has to be declared HOLY GRAIL method    Putting things in perspective your 400 winning run in 8 on 1 happens 1 in 5 times. If you don't believe these stats get a second opinion.
I know that you don't like using math. Anybody here can confirm that?

[SamNL]

A pity FIVE has been passed up by everyone. Its now standing at 1,300/1 Still not anywhere near losing on BV. And even live, its not been past step 3 since the single loss. And have not had to compromise triggers to get a decent turnover.

Not by me, I'm still playing FIVE on the European Roulette on BV and doing well. Playing Hit and Run.

[Johnlegend]

My reason is not a turnover factor. I just don't think that any human being can duplicate your run of 1000+ consecutive wins or 70 of last step double dozen bets. Based on statistical probability the method that produced such stats has to be declared HOLY GRAIL method    Putting things in perspective your 400 winning run in 8 on 1 happens 1 in 5 times. If you don't believe these stats get a second opinion.
I know that you don't like using math. Anybody here can confirm that?

Well here's how I read it Matt. Most people will only consider a method a grail if it never loses. I consider a method a grail if longterm it doesnt show negative numbers. And pound for pound. I don't believe there's anything with 80 units max on the line that can give you a better return.

You have to also keep in mind the one loss I've suffered wasn't a true one. As ZERO was responsible for one of the losing steps. So I've yet to have random present me with a true FIVE.

I think you are making too much of these 70+ holds on step 4. I didn't push this method for nothing. I know how good it is. If ten people play it like me you'll get another 1000 plus winner. So on this forum you have Kevint3 and Samnl and myself playing FIVE.

[TwoCatSam]

You have to also keep in mind the one loss I've suffered wasn't a true one. As ZERO was responsible for one of the losing steps.


So you lost the progression, but didn't lose? 

I gotta go on that one.......

Samster

[Johnlegend]

You have to also keep in mind the one loss I've suffered wasn't a true one. As ZERO was responsible for one of the losing steps.


So you lost the progression, but didn't lose? 

I gotta go on that one.......

Samster

I lost the progreasipn, but I wasn't looking at a FIVE. That's what I'm saying. This formation is very hard for random to produce. Matt thinks a thousand wins is extraordinary. Try 3,594 Matt.That's my documented run until the first loss. And as I play it. It wouldn't surprise me if I went another 3000 plus Matt.

[xeo]

example#1
this is correct?
D1---D2---D3
04---02---06
04---03---02 -> game trigger D1
02---04---05 -> bet trigger D2
02---04---02 -> lost
04---02---06 -> bet trigger D1
06---03---02 -> win
or this?
D1---D2---D3
04---02---06
04---03---02 -> game trigger D1
02---04---05 -> bet trigger D2
06---04---02 -> lost
04---02---06 -> bet trigger D1
06---03---02 -> win


example#2
this is correct?
D2
04
02
04 -> game trigger
03
04 -> bet trigger
04 -> lost
02
02
04 -> bet trigger
06 -> win
or this?
D2
04
02
04 -> game trigger
06
04 -> bet trigger
04 -> lost
02
07
04 -> bet trigger
06 -> win
or this?
D2
04
02
04 -> game trigger
06
04 -> bet trigger
04 -> lost
02
02
04 -> bet trigger
06 -> win


example#3 is correct?
numbers from BV NZ: 4,17,33,33,15,34,23,31,20,34,22,23,13,17,19,36,21,34,3,22,9,5,16,35,15,2,7,36,2,33,27,17,9,10,32,17,5,16,24,33,22,10,6,2,22,36,21,10,9,34,25,19,9,22,31

5,16,35,15,2
2,33,27,17,9 -> game trigger

35,15,2,7,36 -> bet trigger 1
27,17,9,10,32 -> bet trigger 1 LOST

17,9,10,32,17 -> bet trigger 2
22,10,6,2,22 -> bet trigger 2 LOST

2,22,36,21,10 -> bet trigger 3
9,34,25,19,9 -> bet trigger 3 LOST

36,21,10,9,34 -> bet trigger 4
25,19,9,22,31 -> bet trigger 4 LOST

GAME OVER - LOST 80 units