Some DozPlay

[Maan]

I don't post much. But her's how i like to play the Dozens.

You'll eventually come out as a winner.

DozPlay Flatbet.

JD = Decision before last
LD = Last decision

Play JD except when a doublehit. Then wait for nxt spin. If a triple, play LD. Theres probably a run coming.

If ie. HHL, wait another spin. If HHLL theres probably a Terrible Two coming so play JD another spin.

If HHLH, play JD again.
If HHLHH, play JD again.

[kingsroulette]

wow, so innovative!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, how did u invent this great betselection technique?

[Maan]

By watching it for 6 years.

/M

[warrior]

Can you give some ex.please.warrior

[Auskaki]

Hi Warrior,

You have asked for examples to play. Hope the attached file helps. I collected the datas from visiting casinos here in Australia and other countries. In the next column after the spin nos. shows 2 letters e.g AA = Doz1 and Column 1, BC = Doz2 and Column 3.

There are many thoughts shared in the Forum how to play the Doz or Column btw. And they are good ideas to win money.

G'day

[ausguy]

Auskaki - I've done/doing lots of testing on dozens & columns (nothing ground breaking yet ?). One thing I do that differs from your pick ID's is to separately ID the dozens from the columns. I number the dozens as 1, 2, & 3. The columns as A, B, & C. That way there can be no mistaking a dozen as a column or the reverse of that.

So it then writes up like this : 1A (doz 1 & 1st col) - 2C (doz 2 & 3rd col).

One double dozen idea I'll probably be live betting soon off Party Casinos live dealer wheel is just preset dbl dozen betting (nil columns involved). The presets will be off a 3 bet line choice but rotated 3 times (so each pick is the "front runner"). This came about after just test playing the 3 bet pick lines in a repeating 3 bet line pattern. It often failed & killed the test BR. The betting is the super Marty triple up 4 level item. (I know not rocket science but more on that soon).

My picks started out from putting the dozens in a circle. Then for no particular reason I went anti clockwise & I got 3,1(1,3) & 2,3. Then 1,2 was added to even up for each dozen to show twice over the 3 bet lines.

I then said what if I rotated the 3 choices to make it 9 picks instead of 3 ? I did that & retested the same spins & much more wins came up but although it almost made it, failures still came. I then brought in a stop loss "V" bet (virtual) play after a L2 loss. "V" betting until a win is the trigger for a L3 bet, the same is repeated for L4. "V" bets stop strings of losses but not switch back losing results.Testing was even better but one sequence wiped me out.

I also have a version of this for EC play (still testing).

So the final thing I tried was a double "V""V" bet at L4. That then requires 2 back to back wins before the next money bet. This seems to work as so far with all tests (live dealer results) I've not had a single loss. Yeah sure have hit the L4 last chance bet a few times but luck/good play has prevailed ?

To get the 9 bet lines it starts out like this :  1,3 - 2,3 - 1,2 then...
                                                              ...2,3 - 1,2 - 1,3
                                                                 1,2 - 1,3 - 2,3 ends set  - restart at 1st position = 1,3. It should be easily seen how each dbl dozen variant becomes the "front runner" but in continuous play why it works better than just the original 3 dbl dozen picks I don't know ?

Ok so we now have a 9 bet line repeating set. A "V" bet that kicks in at a L2 loss tracking a win that triggers a L3 bet & a dbl "V""V" bet for L4.

The money needed is off the Party Casino 2 min (2,000 max) My bets are locked into GBP as what you start out with is what you have to stay with. You can also go with Euro or dollars from a few different countries. Whatever currency you start with is locked in for any future sessions.

So Super Marty amounts are : L1.2, L2.6, L3.18, L4.54. totals 80 per dozen so x2 = a 160 BR. An addtional risk insurance bet cover option can be made as zero bets at L3 & L4. Also any other progression can be used, that's 100% the players choice.
If I run them I add the amount bet on zero to both dozen bets to get the normal return if the dozen wins. The extra on the win cancels out the other extra amounts lost.

Naturally a loss means additional money is lost & the BR needs to be a bit higher. The extra amounts aren't so noticeable off a low value start but say you start at
L1. & 20 then L4 would be 540.

If anyone wants to understand this, if uncertain, just grab a piece of paper and draw 9 bet lines & write in the 9 dbl dozens bet lines as already shown. Grab yourself a few spin results ( I prefer live dealer play) and bet as per the prepicks (units or money, your choice). It pretty much explains itself. Keep in mind the "V" bet if you want to use it. L2 is a line of my choice. "V" then is 50% chance without it & 50% chance with it. You can slide it up or down to suit your risk. Lower after L1, higher after L3 or L4 ?

All the best with it - Ausguy. 

[ausguy]

Just a thought or 2 on progression betting VS Marty betting with "V" bet virtual bets. I was thinking about this the other day when revisting a Guetting progression site that has a comparison win/loss chart. This chart (probably well known to some here ?) compares some of the well known progressions with Guettings fast reducing bets on losses.

While Guetting trumped the other progressions on losses my "V" bet idea easily bested Guettings.

Nothing beats "V" bets on losses as you aren't losing any money at all. Combined with Marty you need 2 back to wins (a "V" & then money bet) to profit. At levels below any "V" bet level each & every win puts you in profit.  Every other bet I've seen including flat betting needs more wins than losses to profit. Even 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2, etc. accumulates the losses. Say 6 straight losses has you at - 6.

So to get back to +1 you need to win 7 units.

What it seems to me is that Marty with "V" bets is a viable alternative to other bet plans.  What do you guys think ? Anyone up to testing the idea, say on EC or Doz/Col.

Cheers - Ausguy.

[Auskaki]

Hi Ausguy,

Agreed with you, so much easier to read with 1,2,3 for Doz and letters for Columns. Some one suggested a Doz/Col betting using both letters. I have tested his idea and not bad at all.

Will try to digest what you have proposed on Doz plays and hopefully use it to the fullest advantage and win....win...win.

Cheers mate.