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I can't seem to shake this reality

Started by GLC, Dec 02, 10:14 PM 2012

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GLC

No matter what bet selection method I employ, I can't get away from the fact that there's always 2 or more numbers that can cause me to lose my bet on that spin.  That means that if I play long enough, enough of these losing spins will cluster together enough to kill my bank roll.  (Did I use enough enoughs in that sentence?)

The safer my bet, meaning that I only lose a small amount of money on a loss, the harder it is to get ahead because it means that I'm betting such a small amount that it takes a lot of wins, relatively speaking, to win much.  An example is a bet on a single number.  Each loss is small and each win is big but there's too many losses compared to wins.

The more aggressive my bet, meaning that I lose a large amount of money on a loss and win a small amount of money on a win, I have to worry about having a cluster of losses that drives me so deep into the hole that it takes forever, relatively speaking, to climb back out.  An example is betting on all numbers except 2.  Each win nets me 1 unit and each loss costs me 35.

We can never know if a system is a guaranteed winner, because of the above fact.  It can win for a very long time and then all of a sudden we can't seem to win a thing.  We start suspecting cheating of some sort if we're playing at a B&M or software manipulation if we're playing on-line.

I can't help but remember Flatino's confession to having a system that won for years and then he lost a small fortune, at least for me, in one session.

The main thing this indicates is that we have to play within our means, don't bet with money you can't afford to lose, have a realistic stop loss and stick to it, when you get a reasonable amount ahead, don't give it all back, don't shoot for too big a win target compared to your bankroll, etc...

I could go on and on but this relieves the pressure somewhat.

Just to make up for it, I'll post a nifty little system in a day or two. :lol:

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Ralph

That's the truth of many betting system. "Winning" system using progression and go very  far, can work and give long period of winnings. Soon or later if continue the winnings and often more goes in a few spins.  One case here is one which thought he has the "Winning" system, lost the all winnings and SEK 30 million. he not abandon the thought of the system should work, so he went on try to get it back.
Ruined himself, and the family put in heavy debt, and probably jail for misappropriation of money.

We must understand how the game is, every spin can end up as a loss. If we can not take the fact we can lose the bet, and know that fact before we place it. It should not be placed.

It is common to increase the risks in a losing streak, we don not need to be in a hurry to lose.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

sniper

QuoteNo matter what bet selection method I employ, I can't get away from the fact that there's always 2 or more numbers that can cause me to lose my bet on that spin.  That means that if I play long enough, enough of these losing spins will cluster together enough to kill my bankroll.  (Did I use enough enoughs in that sentence?)


Hello GLC,


Start looking for Bias Wheel.


You will get exactly opposite what you posted above.


Regards and Best Wishes

Turner

I am resigned to the fact that what you said sums roulette up.
I equate what i spend in the casino to what i spend in a lump sum everywhere else in my life. A food shop in the supermarket, £38. A curry and a few beers with the wife and daughter, £32. A new jacket, £37.
This is a figure i am comfortable spending before i look at the receipt without pulling a face.
Bad night at the casino where no idea worked and i lost the lot.....£35.
Would you spend £500 on a meal or a jacket? i know i wouldnt
My realistic dream night is to come out the casino 3 hours later having not spent 1 penny. A free night out. If im up on the night...fantastic days!!!
Turner

albertojonas

Quote from: Turner on Dec 03, 04:25 AM 2012
I am resigned to the fact that what you said sums roulette up.
I equate what i spend in the casino to what i spend in a lump sum everywhere else in my life. A food shop in the supermarket, £38. A curry and a few beers with the wife and daughter, £32. A new jacket, £37.
This is a figure i am comfortable spending before i look at the receipt without pulling a face.
Bad night at the casino where no idea worked and i lost the lot.....£35.
Would you spend £500 on a meal or a jacket? i know i wouldnt
My realistic dream night is to come out the casino 3 hours later having not spent 1 penny. A free night out. If I'm up on the night...fantastic days!!!
Turner


I use a Piggy Bank for Gamblin. Is like the Electricity Bill. Every month i put 50â,¬ into the piggy bank for gamblin' purposes.
Then i aim to turn it fat. Just like raising a pig for meat. The Best one can do is 6 months to make it adult.
The nature of roulette is no different and it requires investment so you can have a delightful meal. Still have to cook it =).
Aphorisms appart, I try to slowly increase my bankroll with stop-loss and win goals well defined. Then one of the banks is dedicated to compounding, another for backup, yet another for savings.
Money management, is essential.
Even when i hit the unavoidable bad run, i don't get surprised. It is a slow death with multiple plans to recover. A single battle does not win or loose the war.
In the end, the exercise pays itself for the fun of it. With some luck it even pays for certain extravaganzas. The goal is having a conscious and happy ruin. =)
Better to Burn than to fade out.
Cheers

Chauncy47

GLC,

I am not sure anyone could have said it any better when it comes to roulette than what you just posted!  I love the game and everything that it challenges my thinking with.  As you probably guessed, I play the hit & run style with as many as 11 methods with what I like to call a "rope a dope style" approach :)   The plan is to hopefully cause the opponent(Roulette), which in this case is to cause him to "punch himself out" while I am observing and waiting for a trigger, which I call an opportunity, so that I can then exploit it in a counter-attack, which a method using hit and run style approach.  Regardless of my playing style, thoughts and opinions, your comment:  "We can never know if a system is a guaranteed winner, because of the above fact.  It can win for a very long time and then all of a sudden we can't seem to win a thing."     ... Is really 100% spot on and it's a great reminder that keeps me grounded so thank you for starting this thread! 

TwoCatSam

Better to Burn than to fade out. 

The above was a loose quote of the great author Jack London.  I have it framed.

Here's a photo I look at often:

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

ashwinsinha

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 03, 10:23 AM 2012
Better to Burn than to fade out. 

The above was a lose quote of the great author Jack London.  I have it framed.

Here's a photo I look at often:

my god imagine the profit the online casino/bookie must have made  :o

TwoCatSam

The casinos made what he lost:  $457,500.  And God only knows how much he lost that the did not embezzle.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GARNabby

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 03, 10:23 AM 2012
Better to Burn than to fade out.
Well, nice to check in every couple of months, to see how the big-time "nuttiness" parade (oops) is going.

Looks like JL, for one here, knows how to "burn out", LoL.

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Anyway, i should think that you would have to factor in the flip-side of that, "The longer you're in a game, the more chance you have of winning".


P.S.  If you've "framed" that, than you must have a lot of pictures up?  And way-too much "time on your hands".

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